Probably not the best timing when it comes to reveals and release.
Despite the delusion of otherwise, the 6+ will eat into Note X market.
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Galaxy Note 4: Who's gonna be camping out?
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Probably not the best timing when it comes to reveals and release.
Despite the delusion of otherwise, the 6+ will eat into Note X market.
Yeah was very dumb. That said these reports of the plus bending in theory could help the note sales even more.
Since the bending issue has gone viral, there is a chance that sells will increase. Samsung should do a commercial on this issue if it becomes widespread. Too bad my transition and rehab thread was removed, that could've helped some future users as well.
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I wouldn't get my hopes up.
We've already been down this bridge to nowhere with the iPhone 5 and 5S, which were supposedly prone to bending. Couple of years later, and the epidemic never quite materialized.
Wouldn't bother me either way, I don't Base my purchase based on what the sales figures are.
It never received the publicity this is receiving. This is reminding me of the antenna gate/ bumper case incident....
I'd like the note 4 thank you very much.
The note will sell what it will sell. As will the new iPhones. The note 4 or s5 will not sell anywhere near what the iPhone sells, , but this is nothing new. It has been the pattern for years. I will still buy the note 4 as I feel it is the superior device.
It seems this version of the phone is much more willing to bend. People will probably just need to get used to having bent phones. Either way time will tell.
This one is reminding me of antenna gate too though
Bear in mind I used an iPhone 4 for 3 years no problem.
Bear in mind I used an iPhone 4 for 3 years no problem.
The antenna gate was very much a real issue, I went through several phones with this issue until finally I was able to update to the next model.
The bendable iPhone is kind of funny though. I know what the issue is because I also have a phablet, the note 3. If you have something well fitting like jeans, not tight but not baggy either, you get some pressure on the phone. When you put the phone in the front pocket and sit down the phone is too long and it digs into your hip, so you are giving it some top to bottom pressure. It's not a lot, and it's not particularly uncomfortable, but it's there. It's not an issue with the Note 3 because it is able to flex a little bit. It's possible that the little bit of extra height on the iPhone combined with the thin aluminum design make it more susceptible to being bent.
Either way while very amusing I also think it's blown out of proportion. If you pay $1000 for a phone then you need to be responsible for it, have half a brain and realize that if you put pressure on something clad in thin aluminum it may just bend and adjust how you store it.
The guy that did this test did a follow up video with the note 3 and dare I say it won :-/
http://youtu.be/FwM4ypi3at0
Yea anything related to apple gets blown out of proportion for sure.
The s4 strains in my pocket similar to your description, slacks, with no case, I don't know how you guys do it!
You sir, must be joking!
The entire 1-year sales of the Note 4 *may* match what Apple sells in one quarter for the 6+.
There is no way on Gods green earth that the Note 4 will outsell the 6+. I would wager that the Note 4 will NOT outsell the *new* sales of the 5S starting from when the Note 4 launches.
I am not saying that the Note 4 will outsell the 6+ but I think it is a possibility, simply for these reasons:
A lot of people use the device for productivity and Samsung has had time to develop the device for the kind of use that Productivity users want. Ie: multi windows, S Pen, Snap capture which translates to text etc. So the software is more mature. That and you don't have to deal with the hoops that Apple wants for you to drag and drop etc files (itunes or having to use drop box etc). You don't need work arounds. So even up from the Note 3 there have been solid software works from Samsung to make use easier. I for one love the idea of easily being able to use the S Pen to highlight text and share etc pretty fluidly rather than trying to spread it across the paragraph with my fingers.
Also, although there are lots of users who wanted a bigger screen, it seems that the sweet spot for the new iPhones are the iP6 over the +. It really seems that people have swallowed the line that Steve Jobs fed them so long ago that one handed sized phones are the way to go. Many are even upset that they feel no smaller options have been presented with new tech if you read these forums.
I know not a lot of people use the Stylus, but Samsung has done a lot to make it more functional for people to use on this iteration of the device.
I think it will be a close battle and that is a good thing because Samsung will have to keep upping their game.
oh and personally if there was another manufacturer with less Touch Wiz, offering the kind of stylus support and software features that Samsung does, I would seriously consider it.
I'd certainly expect the Note 3 to hold up better considering the difference in build materials--plastic will flex much better than aluminum. I'll be curious to see how the Note 4 holds up to the same test with it's metal frame.
All that being said, yes, metal, especially a softer metal like aluminum will bend at certain levels of stress. I'm still finding the story on MR's front page hard to believe and doubt we are getting the whole truth. He'd have to have some significantly small/tight front pockets (he was wearing a suit, not skinny jeans--none of my tailored suits are skin tight or even close) and having a phone that large in such a tight pocket would get uncomfortable pretty damn quick--much less 18 hours. In the stress test video, the 6+ bent but it still took a significant amount of pressure to do so, far more than a pocket would cause.
I'm not discounting the fact that the device may be more susceptible to bending than other phones because of its build materials and shape but a little common sense also goes a long way.
There maybe some truth to it as on this very forum, iPod touch 5th gen owners have reported that their ipods have bent. The iphone 6/6+ has virtually the same design as the 5th gen ipod touch. However as someone who never puts a phone in my pocket I wouldn't be bothered.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1500856/
I'm not saying it won't bend, just don't think we are getting the true facts. And let's face it, some folks will certainly sensationalize circumstances to make a better story. I'm also guessing you haven't actually physically held the new iPhones because they are not the same as the last gen. iPod touch. The iPod Touch is far inner and lighter, feels much more delicate.
Update: So I quickly read through the linked thread and most posts says no, it's not bent, and of those that do, most were extreme circumstances--slammed in a car door, sat on it, etc.
My guess it these incidents are far more extreme and people won't want to admit they were careless.
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I agree with everything you said. I am interested in the note b.c of productivity reasons. The stylus is a big part of that. It really has nothing to do with the size of the screen.
I have not looked into how the LG G3 works with their stylus version.
The LG G3 stylus looks like a huge step down--960 x 540 display resolution on a 5.5" screen, 1GB RAM, 8GB internal storage. No thanks.
I'd personally love to see a serious upgrade to the Xperia Z Ultra--included stylus support that allowed anything to be used as a stylus was intriguing. And they made a GPE version. Unfortunately it's display wasn't great and it had an awful camera with no flash.
Make a Z3 Ultra and I'd take a serious look at it.
I think for a lot of us apple users, we don't really worry too much about specs. Sure there times with certain hardware is necessary, especially on computers, but I thinks its more of an experience thing. An example is how well iOS handles power usage, so there is not as big of a battery performance gap as the specs might make it seem on the note 4. Android phones often have "high end specs" but that doesn't always equal a better phone experience. iOS also does run circles around android in a few areas. Like messages, managing resources and how it handles notifications. (which is funny, since apple used to have the worst system for that).
Personally I'm more than happy with the specs in my 5s, It runs pretty dang fast. I just hope apple does give the iPad some improved hardware, cuz thats where it shows up. Especially with some of these games.
Well I haven't bent my iPod touch 5th gen in the two years I've owned it. At the time I read the thread and replied I wrote it off to people being careless. However all I'm saying is that there might be an element of truth in it. If I had an iphone 6 it wouldn't effect me as I don't keep my phone in my pocket. I don't feel sorry for people who put their phone in their pocket and then sit on it and complain that it's broken. The same as those who put the phone in the same pocket as the keys and then moan when the screen gets scratched.Anyhow Apple always have a similar scandal when they launch a new phone whether it be antenna gate, purple haze in the camera or bent phones. People get over it quickly.
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No I much prefer the notification panel on android. I find the ios one quite poor.