It's a Tmobile phone on the ATT network so I don't think either of them will cover it.
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It's a Tmobile phone on the ATT network so I don't think either of them will cover it.
That's my experience as well. I love all my Samsung phones, but they seem to be hit or miss on quality control.
If it is a TMO phone bought through TMO they will cover it...if it is a device on your account they will cover it.
GPS quality isn't affected by carrier. The only thing cell towers affect is speed of lock.
You can still get GPS lock without ever having a cell signal.
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Ahhh.. I get you now. I thought you bought it on a TMO account you had.
Does it show up on your AT&T account? But AT&T would only replace it with another AT&T phone.......so I see your dilemma.
Not having any GPS issues with mine, locks in pretty fast. Sucks you have to deal with Samsung warrantee, always a pain when you have to ship your phone out.
Maybe try opening a prepaid T-Mobile account and then get it swapped there?
Maybe try opening a prepaid T-Mobile account and then get it swapped there?
GPS seems great on my Note 4, haven't had any problems with it, I often do location tagging in Instagram and a bit of satnav with GMaps to check traffic on the diff routes I use to get to work, never has an issue and locks quickly.
In my Jeep I preferred using my iPad to do satnav due to the huge 9.7inch display and I could place it nicely on the centre console and glimpse at it as I drove, but in my new VW there isn't a place to do that, but there is a perfectly sized holder on the dash where I put my Note.
In my Jeep I preferred using my iPad to do satnav due to the huge 9.7inch display and I could place it nicely on the centre console and glimpse at it as I drove, but in my new VW there isn't a place to do that, but there is a perfectly sized holder on the dash where I put my Note.
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You can install a different launcher. I hate touch wiz too. That's why I use nova launcher.
The note 4 is a BEAST though! It runs circles around the iphone 6+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVkaY-F6Zhs&list=FLkNeLi-KlV-FM4TWu4JcdpA&index=7
and once you put lollipop on the note 4, it will be even faster than the video shows.
Samsung's build quality is negligible. They make the notes better than the galaxy S's. I will admit, I don't like the cheap plastic they use for the back. That stuff is flimsy and it slips easily from your hand. But I will say, I sure love my LTE galaxy s3 factory unlocked version!
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Hmmm....gps on my nexus 5 is good, but the freakin' maps app is practically useless. Do you have any problems on your nexus 5 while using navigation in the google maps app? It's always driving me in a freakin' circle around my destination and it changes my route mid way through the drive. I'm going to try "Here" navigation from the play store and see how it goes.
This isn't really Note news, but there is a rumor that the GS6 would have a much lighter version of touchwiz, almost stock.
http://pocketnow.com/2015/01/13/samsung-galaxy-s-6-touchwiz
Do you think this will be brought over to the Note 4, or would this be something exclusive to the Note 5 when its released?
http://pocketnow.com/2015/01/13/samsung-galaxy-s-6-touchwiz
Do you think this will be brought over to the Note 4, or would this be something exclusive to the Note 5 when its released?
Ok, can someone give me some insight please? I've only used android since march last year, before that I had an iphone 4. Before that was a 2g iphone. I used an s3 up until november when I got the nexus 5.
Why does everyone complain about touchwiz when you can just put a different launcher on it? Touchwiz isn't an actual operating system, it's just the graphical interface.
Stock launcher is Google Now launcher, which I actually hate more than touchwiz. I have nova launcher on both my s3 and nexus 5. I don't really understand why anyone uses the stock launcher on any phone. I hate only being able to have 4 columns of icons on my home screen. I set it to 5 or 6 depending on my background wallpaper.
Why does everyone complain about touchwiz when you can just put a different launcher on it? Touchwiz isn't an actual operating system, it's just the graphical interface.
Stock launcher is Google Now launcher, which I actually hate more than touchwiz. I have nova launcher on both my s3 and nexus 5. I don't really understand why anyone uses the stock launcher on any phone. I hate only being able to have 4 columns of icons on my home screen. I set it to 5 or 6 depending on my background wallpaper.
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You clearly do not appreciate that touchwiz is more than just 'the launcher' which Nova is.
When you install Nova it does not sort out the Notification Bar, the many redundant unnecessary background services sucking up ram, the blocky dialer and contacts app.. Do I need to go on?
All of those things and much more are a part of Samsung's Touchwiz that remain unaffected by you utilising a different launcher.
Indeed because of the way Samsung runs background services regardless of which launcher you use, often utilising Nova or Google Now Launcher actually has no impact on reducing memory overhead of the device and often can actually further reduce available resources on a Samsung device over the stock launcher.
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3 seconds between them from the overall test is hardly rings. They are both fast devices. If anything it shows that despite the iPhone having 1gb ram and the Note 4 having 3gb, when it came to opening backgrounded apps, the iPhone managed to hold its own incredibly well despite the 2gb ram deficit.
No, touchwiz is NOT an operating system. All the background processes running an a samsung is not "touchwiz" they are just apps, not the os itself. The bloat apps is what is eating up processes, not the touchwiz launcher. You can essentially root it and get rid of all those apps while still keeping the touch wiz launcher. Do I need to point you to a wiki article which states the difference? Here, It says in the first paragraph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchWiz
Now mind you, I hate the preloaded apps that samsung puts on the phone. Way way too many. If I wanted all that crap I can install it from the play store. That's why I got a nexus 5. I still use the s3 from time to time and love it, but I use the nexus 5 99% of the time.
Anyway, app opening speed isn't all that important (although I personally think 3 seconds is slow if you're used to apps opening almost instantly or within only 1 second), but if you notice, the apps that do load faster that require an INTERNET CONNECTION open faster on the note 4, not because of the higher ram, but because of the faster downloading speed. A split second of app opening isn't a big deal, but being able to fully load a web page or web data super fast is pretty important. In THAT regard, the iphone 6+ lags pretty far behind in comparison. When I say "lag" I don't mean it in a negative way, just a little slower.
What this shows is that even with all the bloat crap running in the background, the note 4 STILL runs circles around the iphone 6+...and THAT is a huge accomplishment! lol. And again, put lollipop on it so it cam support ARM and it will be even faster.
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Touchwiz IS the operating system. Basicly android is the base, then the OEM takes that and does what it wants with it. Here is a video that can better explain it:
http://youtu.be/ooqdU6Wq2sk
On my Note, Im using Nova launcher with a lollipop theme, swipe up for google now, and set as many google apps as I could to default (messenger, chrome, calendar, keyboard). I also disabled or uninstalled a lot of samsung and at&t apps, only time I ever really see touchwiz is the dialer, notifications, lock screen, multiwindow and spen related programs. I also limited background applications to 4.
After all of this, performance has been much better than out the box, where I saw a ton of stuttering the first day I had it, but now its a relatively smooth expierence, but still isn't as fast or as smooth as my HTC One GPE, and the reason is that its still touchwiz running on my Note. And short of rooting it and replacing the ROM, I won't get the same type of performance.
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You are wrong. There are a ton of Samsung processes on a touchwiz device running in the background that are not on other non touchwiz devices. Such as ANT radio and many others background processes.
Touchwiz is Samsung's OS based on Android base.
What you have changed is the Touchwiz launcher, not the core Touchwiz OS which persists regardless of which 3rd party launcher you use instead.
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Hopefully if the rumours are true the new 2015 touchwiz that comes with the S6 will be radically overhauled under the hood so we won't have to limit anything or disable stuff.
I'm not sure why people complain about touchwiz either, I think it's a great build. Some of the touchwiz features are amazing and put vanilla android to SHAME. Multi window, of course the s-pen support, just to name a few.
It's fast as well. The lag IMO is carrier bloatware as I had an ATT note 4 which lagged and I blamed touchwiz. But now I have a tmobile one and with no modifications, straight out of the box there is no lag at all. I had the Note 4 and 6 plus both for a while and at the end of the day the Note 4 had so much more functionality I kept it. IMO it has a lot more functionality than any other Android phone as well. It's not without its quirks and negatives, but name me a phone which is perfect.
No, it's not. Touchwiz is an INTERFACE. I really don't want to post the same wiki page every time someone says touchwiz is an operating system but here goes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchWiz
All OEM's put their own sort of bloat apps on their phones, but samsung probably puts the most on theirs. My s3 stutters from time to time but my nexus 5 is butter smooth. I definitely like the stock android experience better. The only thing I like better on my s3 is the app shortcuts on the lockscreen and the quick settings in the swipe down notification center. I hate on stock android you have to do the double finger pull down or twice single finger pull down. So inconvenient.
As for dialer, there are third party dialers available. I use "rocket dialer" which comes with rocket contacts. I hate stock dialer because I don't like NOT having the number pad show when I first open the app. I don't want to see my "recent" list with big huge ugly boxes, I want to see the DIAL PAD, you know, what a PHONE is....lol. I don't even really like stock apps. I use a third party calendar, a third party browser, a third party dialer, hell, I don't even really like hangouts. Nothing bad about it, but I like theming, so I use GoSMS pro, which has gotten really crappy over time and they keep removing features (which is why I don't update it anymore) but anyway...
Touchwiz is not the actual operating system, people mistaken it for it, but touchwiz is just the visual interface. The bloat apps run on TOP of the os.
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And again, like I said, another cool thing about samsung phones is their QUICK SETTINGS (who the hell wants to double finger slide?) and the app shortcuts on the lockscreen. I might root my s3 after the warranty period ends just to get rid of the samsung apps that I don't use.
Touchwiz does have some nice features like pinching in on the home screen to bring up ALL home pages. Being able to swipe left or right on a contact name to text/call them, to name a couple things off the top of my head.
Smart Stay is probably one the the best underrated features Samsung has come up with.
I completely agree. The first thing I do is disable the carrier bloat.
In reply to the person above me, seriously, what is it with the Tmobile apps that come preloaded on tmobile samsung phones? Like WTH is mobile life or whatever it's called? DISABLED! And why doesn't the data widget work? It'd be nice to have a widget that shows my real time data usage but the widget doesn't work.
Well I've conceeded. Next week I will be getting the note #
The temptation is too much for me. I'll keep my 6 plus and use it alongside the note 4. I'm buying it unlocked so I can get it in bronze gold.#
The temptation is too much for me. I'll keep my 6 plus and use it alongside the note 4. I'm buying it unlocked so I can get it in bronze gold.#
I think things get repeated a lot by reviewers who have nothing to say - and then people think they are true.
I've had all the iphones up to the 5S, plus the Galaxy S5 and the Note 4. Of all those the one that fin most secure in the hand was the Iphone 3GS and the Galaxy S5 i.e. the ones with the smoothest back. Go figure...
As for build quality, this has no meaning anymore. I was carrying a pile of papers with my note 4 in it and slipped - dropped the Note 4 face down on a tiled floor yesterday from waist height. Glass not cracked - not even a scratch.
Why do I have the Note 4, well my Iphone5S broke on first drop on the same floor. Need we say more about so-called "build quality"?
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I agree with this.
By the way Samsung (in the US only) has had a beta launcher out called "Terrain Home". I'm going to guess that some (not al) of this is the direction for next Touch Wiz.