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maximus96

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tried out samsung pay just now. added my BofA visa debit card which i normally would never use. bought a soda at a supermarket and it worked just like advertised. can't wait till its out of beta so I can add my normal cards.
 

BlueGoldAce

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I wish I was in a hot climate ;)

the unit has been fine up until the last month or so and there have been no updates either. I had the same kind of lag on my note 4 after 5.0.
Yeah it's really odd.

Battery life was my complaint on my T-Mobile, before launch day phone. Performance was great. Honestly, partially due to its beta nature, I found the iPhone six plus to be noticeably slower...it bothered me.

My wife's s6 performers great, and she knows nothing in terms of optimization or disabling stuff. I could make her get another phone if I tried.

My note 5 is top dog in terms of performance, consistency, etc in my recent experience. That being said, it required a factor reset. It wasn't sleeping, lagging, etc until I reset it. Probably just a bad factory flash or something.

I have had to exchange the iPhone 5s and six plus, both, a handful of times due to hardware issues (blurry camera, which they just started a replacement program for, as well as home button issues). I mention this to say that when a phone is mass produced, there is going to be hardware issues on some units...period. Remember the knicks on the iPhone 5? My black had that problem...twice.

Samsungs software is getting better, while, imo, apples is getting worse. Bugs,etc are popping up more often than in the past.

It's silly for people to argue over camera quality between the iPhone, the galaxy series, and the upcoming iPhone. They all take amazing photos. Want something better? Go buy a high quality camera.

Doesn't dxmark rate the Galaxy series as the best camera phone out? Yet people arguing over shades of green, etc. it is just a matter of preference.
 
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The Game 161

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Ok found the thread ...

It was sartrekid who had the bad keyboard lag ... Sadly software was eliminated as the cause - and it turned out after a headache replacing his device - the new one didn't have the issue. So it was a replacement device in his case that solved the issue ... :(
Thanks for looking. Think it's a lost cause to be honest. Will have a deeper look into the phone when i have time. It's been terrible the last few days so there must be a reason for it.
 

BlueGoldAce

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Hell....if speaking of preferences. Here is my opinions:

Apple has the best warranty support in the business, followed closely Microsoft and hardware purchased from Google.

Apple Retina MacBook pros are the best balance of pluses and compromises in terms of hardware.

Windows 10 is the best OS, but Mac OS X is great too.

Android is the best, most functional, while also being great looking, operating system on the planet. Thrown on a manufacturer skin and all bets are off.

iOS used to be the most bug free, but that trend is changing as apple tries to match android features.

The iPad still sets the bar for a tablet experience, but Windows 10 tablets will really challenges this on OS, price, and compatibility.

Samsung makes the best mobile hardware, and you truly get what you pay for. The software lags behind but is greatly improving, as seen on the note 5.

The Apple ecosystem is overrated and not near as amazing as people make it out to be. You can integrate all types of products together, for cheaper.

Some Apple products are so overpriced it's funny...such as the new MacBook and Apple Watch.

I believe I ignoring specs and focusing on the user experience is important to do.

I also believe overcharging people, to have a phone running iOS will eventually hurt Apple. Cheap android phones are changing the game . At least with Samsung you have cutting edge tech.

See...these are my opinions, but nothing more than that. Yet the above, and opposing views consistently stated as fact...and we get internet fights.

Disclaimer: I own and iPad Air 2, newest version of the 13 retina MacBook Pro, and now a note 5. I own all the current game consoles (oops, how did that happen), a chromast, and use love google services, but use one drive to integer my devices. I don't care about which company makes which, I just buy what is imo the best.
 

BlueGoldAce

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Thanks for looking. Think it's a lost cause to be honest. Will have a deeper look into the phone when i have time. It's been terrible the last few days so there must be a reason for it.
I would agree. If what you are experiencing was common, tech websites would go nuts. I would contact Samsung, or whoever and get a warranty replacement.
 

mclld

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"It's sillyfor people to argue over camera quality between the iPhone, the galaxy series, and the upcoming iPhone. They all take amazing photos. Want something better? Go buy a high quality camera.
"


So true. It is funny to see someone embrace one and trash another when any of these are leaps and bounds above their predesessers from years back but when those were current people would praise them as well
 
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RMXO

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"It's sillyfor people to argue over camera quality between the iPhone, the galaxy series, and the upcoming iPhone. They all take amazing photos. Want something better? Go buy a high quality camera.
"


So true. It is funny to see someone embrace one and trash another when any of these are leaps and bounds above their predesessers from years back but when those were current people would praise them as well

How this forum has matured over the years. I still remember when "Alternative to iOS and devices was first added" here, it was bad and full of trolls, lol.
 

spinedoc77

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I'm curious how well Samsung pay works. Going back to the iPhone I was excited about Apple pay because everyone raves about it, but I found it was mostly useless and quite trumped up. I think it's better in Europe where NFC transactions are much more prevalent, but in the good old states with our magnetic swipe it's only good in a handful of stores, none of which I frequent. Samsung pay working on those magnetic readers is pretty huge, I'm surprised they are not getting more press.
 

The Game 161

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I'm curious how well Samsung pay works. Going back to the iPhone I was excited about Apple pay because everyone raves about it, but I found it was mostly useless and quite trumped up. I think it's better in Europe where NFC transactions are much more prevalent, but in the good old states with our magnetic swipe it's only good in a handful of stores, none of which I frequent. Samsung pay working on those magnetic readers is pretty huge, I'm surprised they are not getting more press.
I thought it was suppose to work on all contactless places? is it different in the US with that? as from my understanding any place that accepts contactless payments would work with apple pay
 

spinedoc77

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I thought it was suppose to work on all contactless places? is it different in the US with that? as from my understanding any place that accepts contactless payments would work with apple pay
I can't say I have much experience as I just set it up a couple of weeks ago. From what I understand it works in stores that use NFC, which isn't everyone but there is a halfway decent list of who it works with on Apples site. Samsung pay also works on NFC but also has MST which works with all the older magnetic readers, which means it virtually works everywhere out of the box.

From what I understand NFC equipped stores are few and far between but I won't profess to be an expert and I never really look, and really don't know what to look for anyhow. But every retailer that accepts credit cards has a magnetic swiper.
 

HiDEF

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Hell....if speaking of preferences. Here is my opinions:

Apple has the best warranty support in the business, followed closely Microsoft and hardware purchased from Google.

Apple Retina MacBook pros are the best balance of pluses and compromises in terms of hardware.

Windows 10 is the best OS, but Mac OS X is great too.

Android is the best, most functional, while also being great looking, operating system on the planet. Thrown on a manufacturer skin and all bets are off.

iOS used to be the most bug free, but that trend is changing as apple tries to match android features.

The iPad still sets the bar for a tablet experience, but Windows 10 tablets will really challenges this on OS, price, and compatibility.

Samsung makes the best mobile hardware, and you truly get what you pay for. The software lags behind but is greatly improving, as seen on the note 5.

The Apple ecosystem is overrated and not near as amazing as people make it out to be. You can integrate all types of products together, for cheaper.

Some Apple products are so overpriced it's funny...such as the new MacBook and Apple Watch.

I believe I ignoring specs and focusing on the user experience is important to do.

I also believe overcharging people, to have a phone running iOS will eventually hurt Apple. Cheap android phones are changing the game . At least with Samsung you have cutting edge tech.

See...these are my opinions, but nothing more than that. Yet the above, and opposing views consistently stated as fact...and we get internet fights.

Disclaimer: I own and iPad Air 2, newest version of the 13 retina MacBook Pro, and now a note 5. I own all the current game consoles (oops, how did that happen), a chromast, and use love google services, but use one drive to integer my devices. I don't care about which company makes which, I just buy what is imo the best.
Well written, Ace.
 

tbayrgs

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I thought it was suppose to work on all contactless places? is it different in the US with that? as from my understanding any place that accepts contactless payments would work with apple pay

It generally will work anywhere that has NFC equipped and activated (some merchants, such as Best Buy and Target have the equipment but haven't yet turned on the NFC functionality). Unfortunately, it seem the US is quite a ways behind the rest of the world, clinging to this old mag strip functionality so as spinedoc mentioned, contactless payment terminals aren't that prevalent here...yet.

I can't say I have much experience as I just set it up a couple of weeks ago. From what I understand it works in stores that use NFC, which isn't everyone but there is a halfway decent list of who it works with on Apples site. Samsung pay also works on NFC but also has MST which works with all the older magnetic readers, which means it virtually works everywhere out of the box.

From what I understand NFC equipped stores are few and far between but I won't profess to be an expert and I never really look, and really don't know what to look for anyhow. But every retailer that accepts credit cards has a magnetic swiper.

Samsung Pay using MST definitely opens its availability up to many more merchants here in the US, though there still are plenty of merchants that actually take your credit card for processing on a terminal not accessible to the customer (especially full service restaurants). It also won't work at locations like gas stations or ATMs that require the card be inserted fully (without a hack). Still, it has more far reaching availability out of the box than Apple or Google Pay. Over time though we should see this gap shrink considering merchants need to have the capability to accept chip and sign/pin by October else liability for fraudulent transaction process via card swipe falls to the party responsible for the swipe transaction. With that change in equipment should come greater presence of NFC tap to pay processing and far fewer mag stripe readers.

What I'm curious to see though is how merchants react to using the MST functionality over a swipe reader since it's not how they're normally used. I still get comments nearly every time I use Apple Pay and those terminals were designed specifically for tap to pay transactions.
 
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spinedoc77

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It generally will work anywhere that has NFC equipped and activated (some merchants, such as Best Buy and Target have the equipment but haven't yet turned on the NFC functionality). Unfortunately, it seem the US is quite a ways behind the rest of the world, clinging to this old mag strip functionality so as spinedoc mentioned, contactless payment terminals aren't that prevalent here...yet.



Samsung Pay using MST definitely opens its availability up to many more merchants here in the US, though there still are plenty of merchants that actually take your credit card for processing on a terminal not accessible to the customer (especially full service restaurants). It also won't work at locations like gas stations or ATMs that require the card be inserted fully (without a hack). Still, it has more far reaching availability out of the box than Apple or Google Pay. Over time though we should see this gap shrink considering merchants need to have the capability to accept chip and sign/pin by October else liability for fraudulent transaction process via card swipe falls to the party responsible for the swipe transaction. With that change in equipment should come greater presence of NFC tap to pay processing and far fewer mag stripe readers.

What I'm curious to see though is how merchants react to using the MST functionality over a swipe reader since it's not how they're normally used. I still get comments nearly every time I use Apple Pay and those terminals were designed specifically for tap to pay transactions.

Great info, I'm excited for the upgrade so it forces merchants to become compliant. Owning businesses you end up with a ton of credit cards and need to carry them all. I can't wait to be rid of them. The other option I see are those NFC cards where you input your cards, they even have a little LCD screen, although I don't believe they are perfected.
 

tbayrgs

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Great info, I'm excited for the upgrade so it forces merchants to become compliant. Owning businesses you end up with a ton of credit cards and need to carry them all. I can't wait to be rid of them. The other option I see are those NFC cards where you input your cards, they even have a little LCD screen, although I don't believe they are perfected.

Do you mean like one of these? I was really intrigued by Plastc, seems like the perfect stop gap while we transition away from mag stripe cards (I hate having to carry so many cards as well) but its launch seems to keep getting pushed back.
 

The Game 161

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It generally will work anywhere that has NFC equipped and activated (some merchants, such as Best Buy and Target have the equipment but haven't yet turned on the NFC functionality). Unfortunately, it seem the US is quite a ways behind the rest of the world, clinging to this old mag strip functionality so as spinedoc mentioned, contactless payment terminals aren't that prevalent here...yet.



Samsung Pay using MST definitely opens its availability up to many more merchants here in the US, though there still are plenty of merchants that actually take your credit card for processing on a terminal not accessible to the customer (especially full service restaurants). It also won't work at locations like gas stations or ATMs that require the card be inserted fully (without a hack). Still, it has more far reaching availability out of the box than Apple or Google Pay. Over time though we should see this gap shrink considering merchants need to have the capability to accept chip and sign/pin by October else liability for fraudulent transaction process via card swipe falls to the party responsible for the swipe transaction. With that change in equipment should come greater presence of NFC tap to pay processing and far fewer mag stripe readers.

What I'm curious to see though is how merchants react to using the MST functionality over a swipe reader since it's not how they're normally used. I still get comments nearly every time I use Apple Pay and those terminals were designed specifically for tap to pay transactions.
interesting read thanks

considering US had Apple pay for a while first it's odd to see they are behind in taking advantage of the whole point of it.

I did notice at the post office that apple pay sticky was on the counter so maybe all stores that do it can have this so people are aware that they do it.
 

Tsepz

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I don't know, this is just too laughable that they inserted the pen the wrong way and get upset by it. It's not like the issue was that the pen is inserted with the samsung logo and the action button upside down and that causes the damage, I could definitely understand that. But inserting the Pen backwards?

If the company wants to throw in some good will and replace the phone for the people that did it accidently, fine. I don't even know how would you write up that complaint, or walk into the store with the pen backwards lol, but ok. The guy on the video purposely doing it while knowing all the facts? No, that's on him imo. He shouldn't do something so silly.
Indeed.

And there doesn't seem to be people who have done it accidentally, all just a whole lot of moaning by people who either don't own a Note5 or never owned one at all, lol.

Hope everyone is enjoying their beasts? Apparently the Note5 is selling better in S.Korea than the Note 4 did, great start. :)
 

Robsan3

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Indeed.

And there doesn't seem to be people who have done it accidentally, all just a whole lot of moaning by people who either don't own a Note5 or never owned one at all, lol.

Hope everyone is enjoying their beasts? Apparently the Note5 is selling better in S.Korea than the Note 4 did, great start. :)

lol Sth Korea, i would be taking that with a grain of salt, Samsung has been caught out before for dodging `up the figures. Wonder if they count the Nth Koreans sneaking over the border for one ;)
 

BlueGoldAce

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Maybe...but they accurately reporter disappointing numbers for the s6 and s6 edge.

My local T-Mobile store keeps selling out. The sold 57 total last week,which is all they got,within the first two days. They said it crazy for any phone to sale like that at their litle store.

Going to trade my 32 for a 64gb today. Finally came in....
 

MRU

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I thought the Note 4 sold well and first few weeks of sales figures & reports/statements from Samsung indicated it had done very well in North America and Europe, yet apparently the end of year results were very disappointing for Samsung sales wise which no doubt contributed to the decision to not release the note 5 in Europe. I think we will have to wait for at least 6-9 months before we get an accurate assessment of sales of the device - but invariably I doubt the rest of the world will make up from the loss of sales Europe would have garnered.

I hope it's enough to keep the Note series going - but suspect that may not be the case ...
 

HiDEF

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Maybe...but they accurately reporter disappointing numbers for the s6 and s6 edge.

My local T-Mobile store keeps selling out. The sold 57 total last week,which is all they got,within the first two days. They said it crazy for any phone to sale like that at their litle store.

Going to trade my 32 for a 64gb today. Finally came in....
Ace, you find yourself running out of space with the 32gb?
 

The Game 161

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Ace, you find yourself running out of space with the 32gb?
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I don't have much left
 

BlueGoldAce

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Ace, you find yourself running out of space with the 32gb?
I have roughly 12 gigabytes left, which I could manage, because I have unlimited data and Ect. But I like the store playlist from Spotify on my phone, I like to keep more games than I play, and sometimes store shows for trips on the road. I can manage at 32, but I would prefer the 64 so I don't have to worry about it. Since I plan on keeping this phone for a full year, fingers crossed, I figured it'd be worth the upgrade
 
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