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Fernandez21

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The Note 5's camera keeps impressing. Here is a picture I took after dusk in pro mode.
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For comparison, here is the same with my iPhone 6S plus.
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Fernandez21

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Here's a video on marshmallow for the Note 5. Looks like a good improvement and possibly a fix for the apps reloading issue. Can't wait for it to drop, maybe it'll help curb my appetite for the S7.

 
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spinedoc77

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Isn't it rolling out in certain areas? I would imagine it will arrive on the note 5 long before the note 6 is released.

Unfortunately I'm on AT&T which is notorious for being DEAD last in updates. I *might* get a month or 2 on Marshmallow before the Note 6 comes out.
 

Tig Bitties

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The Note 5 is a flagship Samsung device, and six frigging months later since Google released Marshmallow, still no update. WTF ?

What happened to manufacturers promising 90 days for new Android releases ? I'm fine with three months later after a Nexus gets the update, but six months and still nothing, F off

The S7 and Note 6 won't see Android-N until.after the S8 comes out
 
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v871305

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The Note 5 is a flagship Samsung device, and six frigging months later since Google released Marshmallow, still no update. WTF ?

What happened to manufacturers promising 90 days for new Android releases ? I'm fine with three months later after a Nexus gets the update, but six months and still nothing, F off

The S7 and Note 6 won't see Android-N until.after the S8 comes out

I really don't understand why Samsung hasn't gone the carrier-free route. Surely they can see that its negative attention for them. Apple and, to a certain aspect, the Nexus line have already shown that it can be very successful without the carriers dictating terms and the Galaxy series have been the most popular phones for a few years running now - surely Samsung can play its hand and demand to have the same terms as Apple (or at least similar) so they can send out updates to ALL phones at the same time.

I know right now its just their software dev teams are as slow as molasses (seriously, its been 6 months and their "flagship" still doesn't have 6.0). I love my Note 5, but this just blows my mind!

I bet you if they spent half as much time on optimizing TouchWiz as they spent on their dumb "custom" apps for everything, we'd have 6.0 back in November!
 

MRU

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I really don't understand why Samsung hasn't gone the carrier-free route. Surely they can see that its negative attention for them. Apple and, to a certain aspect, the Nexus line have already shown that it can be very successful without the carriers dictating terms and the Galaxy series have been the most popular phones for a few years running now - surely Samsung can play its hand and demand to have the same terms as Apple (or at least similar) so they can send out updates to ALL phones at the same time.

I know right now its just their software dev teams are as slow as molasses (seriously, its been 6 months and their "flagship" still doesn't have 6.0). I love my Note 5, but this just blows my mind!

I bet you if they spent half as much time on optimizing TouchWiz as they spent on their dumb "custom" apps for everything, we'd have 6.0 back in November!
That argument doesn't stack up though (blaming carriers) as the fact that we have unlocked and unbranded handsets in Europe that are down to nobody but Samsung to roll out updates too, and they are likewise waiting for marshmallow. Indeed in many cases I've noticed over here some carriers like vodafone rollout the update quicker than Samsung to their own unlocked and unbranded device, which further adds insult to injury.

So taking carriers out of the equation, i still do not believe Samsung would be any faster rolling out updates as they are now, especially major os updates.
 
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spinedoc77

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That argument doesn't stack up though (blaming carriers) as the fact that we have unlocked and unbranded handsets in Europe that are down to nobody but Samsung to roll out updates too, and they are likewise waiting for marshmallow. Indeed in many cases I've noticed over here some carriers like vodafone rollout the update quicker than Samsung to their own unlocked and unbranded device, which further adds insult to injury.

So taking carriers out of the equation, i still do not believe Samsung would be any faster rolling out updates as they are now, especially major os updates.

An AT&T beta tester posted up his experience and pics with a beta version a month ago, so they've had it for at least a month if not longer. I'll definitely point the finger at Samsung AND AT&T.

I wish Google would just grow a set of balls and take away updates and control them like Apple does. I'm sure they can develop a system where oem's can add their unique requirements/drivers/UI. Heck Microsoft has tons and tons of different hardware and oem's to manage but they manage to control the release and updates of Windows.
 

gotluck

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^ Yes I dream of the day that android can roll out updates in a manner that is as good as windows. Windows probably runs on a greater variety of hardware to boot!

as it stands on android you mostly have to choose between better support (nexus) and better hardware (samsung & arguably others)


:( :(
 

MRU

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^ Yes I dream of the day that android can roll out updates in a manner that is as good as windows. Windows probably runs on a greater variety of hardware to boot!

as it stands on android you mostly have to choose between better support (nexus) and better hardware (samsung & arguably others)


:( :(
Well you can't say all windows, you have to exclude windows mobile for example which is essentially the platform most like others that we should compare with.

It's rollout and support has been criminal of late. Windows 10 still hasn't officially been released for the majority of current windows mobile handsets that Microsoft declared would receive it, and even those that have officially been released in the last few months with Windows 10 have been greeted by clearly unfinished, buggy and sloppy software. Which given Microsoft's new full control over, is far worse a situation for its mobile platform to be in than Android or IOS ever are or were.

As a smartphone vendor who can no longer provide a stable OS to its customers since taking full control over its handsets or provide existing handsets anything out of early beta despite months and months (nearly a year) of Windows 10 announcements - they have pretty much nixed their mobile plans before they are even up and running. Sure they have added innovations such as continuum but at the expense of the only strong point they had going for them 'stability'.

So I wouldn't hold "Windows updates" up as some bastion of how support should be done, because clearly when they get it wrong - and they have, on their mobile platform, they get it wrong big time.
 
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Michael Goff

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Well you can't say all windows, you have to exclude windows mobile for example which is essentially the platform most like others that we should compare with.

It's rollout and support has been criminal of late. Windows 10 still hasn't officially been released for the majority of current windows mobile handsets that Microsoft declared would receive it, and even those that have officially been released in the last few months with Windows 10 have been greeted by clearly unfinished, buggy and sloppy software. Which given Microsoft's new full control over, is far worse a situation for its mobile platform to be in than Android or IOS ever are or were.

As a smartphone vendor who can no longer provide a stable OS to its customers since taking full control over its handsets or provide existing handsets anything out of early beta despite months and months (nearly a year) of Windows 10 announcements - they have pretty much nixed their mobile plans before they are even up and running. Sure they have added innovations such as continuum but at the expense of the only strong point they had going for them 'stability'.

So I wouldn't hold "Windows updates" up as some bastion of how support should be done, because clearly when they get it wrong - and they have, on their mobile platform, they get it wrong big time.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/att-con...ypass-carriers-with-windows-10-mobile-updates

At least Windows 10 Mobile devices are getting updates, though.
 

JackieInCo

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Has anyone here Rooted their T-Mobile Note 5? I am having a problem with me phone where it will reboot in the middle of a phone call. I found another custom kernel but with that one, people were saying the same problem occurs using it. I've been looking into possible installing a custom ROM but I haven't found one that includes a kernel and modem baked in that seems stable.

Any suggestions?
 
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