Galaxy Note 5

[Twixt]

Yep it's going to be interesting to see pricing on the Note 5 and S6 Edge+

Unless they drop pricing on existing S6 Edge the + is assumingly going to cost more.

So if we say just €100 more it would mean

S6 Edge + for €949 32gb €1049 64gb €1149 128gb

Which then makes you wonder about Note 5 pricing. Same build as the Edge+ minus curved glass but with same internals as + and the SPen. So will it be similarly priced.

So if we say it's €50 more than current s6 edge, but €50 less than Edge +

Note 5 €899 32gb / €999 64gb / €1099 128gb


Either way it's looking very expensive which could be its biggest Achilles heel.

Especially with Moto's X Style at what will likely be €499/549 here. Is it too soon to drop RRP on the current S6/S6 Edge ? They may not have a choice if they want to bring down those prices.

1099 EUR for 128 GB is crazy (i am not saying Samsung will price it lower than that...). My Note 4 with 128 GB SD on top cost me less than 600 EUR!

 

[The Game 161]

If they truly want to get sales where they want it they can't overprice it. Not with so many heading back to iPhone

 

[apolloa]

Well, in the UK the 64GB iPhone 6 Plus is £699, the 64GB S6 Edge is £740, can't find the 64GB Note 4 but as the 32GB has expandable memory it doesn't matter? The 32GB Note 4 is £569.
The 64GB S6 is £660, so I am not sure how the Note 5 will be priced as I guess it depends on if they do include expandable memory or not, if they do then I can see the Note 5 costing the same as the Note 4 for 32GB and most will buy that and then get an SD card.

 

[Twixt]

Well, in the UK the 64GB iPhone 6 Plus is £699, the 64GB S6 Edge is £740, can't find the 64GB Note 4 but as the 32GB has expandable memory it doesn't matter? The 32GB Note 4 is £569.
The 64GB S6 is £660, so I am not sure how the Note 5 will be priced as I guess it depends on if they do include expandable memory or not, if they do then I can see the Note 5 costing the same as the Note 4 for 32GB and most will buy that and then get an SD card.

Long time debate was whether Note 5 would get an SD card slot. It seems it wont which is why MRU was trying to guess pricing scheme

 

[apolloa]

Long time debate was whether Note 5 would get an SD card slot. It seems it wont which is why MRU was trying to guess pricing scheme

Yes, but never state as fact what it will and won't have until it's official. It could still have a removable back for instance, everyone is just 'assuming' it doesn't have one, nobody has said it as more of a fact yet.
People are still arguing over the ejection system of the pen even.

 

[Savor]

More new pics:

http://pocketnow.com/2015/07/28/galaxy-note-5-leak

I see an sim card slot on the outside so I'm almost certain they're ditching a removable back cover for replacing a battery plus I see no SD card slot either. At this rate my next phone will be a Note 4.

No micro-sd slot, no thanks.

Last year's models still hold up very well. Many 2015 smartphones including majority of the overpriced flagships have been mostly a huge disappointment so far. All flash, no substance. OEM's are crippling our options and the current longevity of these new breed of smartphones. No wonder the current market is on the decline. Oversaturation and people aren't dumb buying features like a 2K display that can shoot in 4K they don't really need. And I am starting to prefer smaller devices again in the "4.5-"5 screen range.

The smartphone industry is starting to become like the video game industry which gets better with hardware capabilities but also awful and overstuffed. Thank goodness the summer movie industry have been far more entertaining than phone news. I start to visit less and less phone sites each day and only care to watch movies and TV shows. Even my smartphones I start to use less and less unless to check reviews or download movies and TV shows.

I can never go back to another smartphone without micro-sd card. In 2015, I need a minimum of 64 GB. That's minimum. I am into downloading movies and entire TV series using Flud, uTorrent, and TubeMate. Many TV shows and movie collections can be up to 30 GB or more and some aren't even in HD. I can fill up a 2 TB real quick from a portable external hard drive. I plan to go completely digital in my movie collection and will just give away all my DVD's. But Pirates Bay and other torrent sites are the only ones that offer digital copies and with a much broader range for obscure titles than say iTunes, Play Store, and Netflix. There are 50M downloads for the uTorrent app on Android, so I am not alone when it comes to downloading movies and stacking hundreds of them into a hard drive for offline use.

My Xiaomi Mi 3 only has 12 GB avail but I had to delete photos to maintain 5.5 GB of space to download 700MB+ HD movies. I can only store 5-7 HD movies before transferring them to a hard drive which took another 30+ min. While fast at Wi-Fi browsing and connecting, I have been crippled by its storage space and thinking of selling it for that reason alone. And yes, it does hang from time to time after a year if alot of downloading is happening in the background. Even a 32 GB card which my LG has inside wouldn't be enough. I need 64 GB or 128 GB but the latter is still expensive. The 64 GB cards are cheap now easily bought for under $30. I saw a Samsung one costing only $23 at Best Buy.

Tired of OEM's jipping out with 16/32 GB storage. This isn't 2010 anymore. Moving 30-50 GB files will start becoming common in a few years that 32 GB will start looking anemic. This is why I can never go back to iPhone. We need as much space as we can get now that resolution is getting higher and files are becoming bigger. Samsung Galaxy Note 4, Samsung Galaxy S5, LG G3, and LG G4 are the last flagships and part of a dying breed which gives us both removable battery and expandable memory slot. Those features alone gives us flexibility in the longer run and why I feel they are still better than most 2015 flagships released this year.

 

[spinedoc77]

Apple isn't Samsung only competitor by far. I was just reading up on the new MOto x, the Style edition. 5.7" quad HD unlocked, carrier free for freaking $399, that's nuts. No waiting for carrier updates anymore, or being locked to a carrier, worrying about root, etc. Samsung thinks people will pay more than double, almost triple for their phone I have a feeling they are going to be very surprised, especially after ditching removable battery and memory. With the ability to take handwritten notes on any screen, and a very wide selection of phablets available I'm just seeing the need for the Note series diminish every day. Samsung needed to innovate like they did with the Note1, but instead they just packaged the same old Note in a nice metal/glass housing, removed innovation from it, priced it well above every other flagship out there and thinks they are going to make a dent in the market.

 

[OrangeInc]

No micro-sd slot, no thanks.

It's a travesty. If I'm going on a long trip and want to go on a media consumption binge then options are limited with all the phone manufactures following the iPhone mold. And, media consumption like watching video on a phone seriously drains the battery so unless there's a power outlet (unlikely on an airplane) then back to the old days of staring out the window or god forbid actually engaging in conversation with the person sitting next to you

Yes, but never state as fact what it will and won't have until it's official. It could still have a removable back for instance, everyone is just 'assuming' it doesn't have one, nobody has said it as more of a fact yet.
People are still arguing over the ejection system of the pen even.

Well, if they put the sim card tray on the outside then why would they still need a removable back cover? Plus the pics show a sort of unibody approach. The design around the sides of the phone looks eerily similar to the iPhone 6.

 

[spinedoc77]

It's a travesty. If I'm going on a long trip and want to go on a media consumption binge then options are limited with all the phone manufactures following the iPhone mold. And, media consumption like watching video on a phone seriously drains the battery so unless there's a power outlet (unlikely on an airplane) then back to the old days of staring out the window or god forbid actually engaging in conversation with the person sitting next to you



Well, if they put the sim card tray on the outside then why would they still need a removable back cover? Plus the pics show a sort of unibody approach. The design around the sides of the phone looks eerily similar to the iPhone 6.

Or maybe if you want to shoot high definition video and can't upload that massive amount of data over cellular, are not near WiFi, or maybe you just want it on your phone so you don't have to wait forever for it to stream, or not have it stream at all.

 

[Fernandez21]

It's a travesty. If I'm going on a long trip and want to go on a media consumption binge then options are limited with all the phone manufactures following the iPhone mold. And, media consumption like watching video on a phone seriously drains the battery so unless there's a power outlet (unlikely on an airplane) then back to the old days of staring out the window or god forbid actually engaging in conversation with the person sitting next to you

Well, if that's your use case you can always get the higher capacity model at 128gb and get a battery case for your phone that'll double the battery life. While it's more expensive and not quite as convenient as a microsd and spare battery, you still have options.

 

[Fernandez21]

Or maybe if you want to shoot high definition video and can't upload that massive amount of data over cellular, are not near WiFi, or maybe you just want it on your phone so you don't have to wait forever for it to stream, or not have it stream at all.

This is one use case where the microsd card makes a lot of sense, as you can carry a couple of cards and swap them when you run out of space. They did make a case for the S6 that would allow you to do the same with OTG, so this may be an option, or you could carry a tb portable hard drive and use OTG to transfer the videos when your out of space to keep shooting.

 

[MRU]

Looks like the Note 5 & S6 Edge + may not be as priced as ultra high as I feared.

Samsung have announced they are going to 'adjust' [reduce] the price of S6/S6 Edge after disappointing earnings following release and drop of 8% in mobile smartphone earnings from same time last year.

So expect Note 5 & S6 Edge + to basically fill the S6 & S6 Edge pricing schemes current.

Samsung Electronics posted second-quarter earnings today in line with its own predictions: the company's net profit fell eight percent year-on-year to 5.75 trillion won ($4.93 billion) on sales of 48.5 trillion won ($41.7 billion), down seven percent from last year. And even though Samsung recorded a slight quarter-on-quarter improvement, the company says the launch of its flagship Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge phones had a "quite marginal" impact with low shipments and increased marketing spend.

Samsung says its mobile division expects a "difficult business environment" in the second half of the year, but plans to keep up sales momentum by "adjusting the price" of the Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge, along with introducing some new high-end phone models — likely the Galaxy Note 5 and Galaxy S6 Edge Plus. Samsung is holding an Unpacked event in New York City on August 13th, meaning we'll see its bigger phones a little earlier this year than usual.

But the story here is how Samsung continues to struggle against Apple at the high end of the market, even after releasing its most critically acclaimed phones in years — it's clear that the S6 twins haven't been major hits. Is there anything Samsung can do to bring the luster back to premium Android phones in the face of impressive mid-priced competition from the likes of OnePlus, Motorola, and Xiaomi? Maybe we'll see in a couple of weeks.

Whilst most will agree price of Samsung's flagships went just too high, the big issue for many is that with a price drop it means that expensive phone is going to lose a nice chunk of its resale value now. It contributes to the fact Android handsets (the very top end priced ones) just don't seem to be able to hold onto resale value compared to iPhones which is good from a buyers perspective, those who can wait out 4-6 months can get a flagship nearly new (previously owned) for $300-400 off its original retail price - for sellers & traders however it is a bit of a nightmare.

I waited 4.5 months to get a Note 4 and picked up a sealed one for just over €400 - nearly €300 off its original RRP retail price.

Samsung need to learn that Apple isn't their main competitor at all - it's the vast array of Android OEM's that are getting super competitive.

I'll skip Note 5 for now, the Moto X Style will be my next Android handset. I'll reconsider in Dec / Jan if the price of previously owned models similarly tanks.

 

[apolloa]

Well, if they put the sim card tray on the outside then why would they still need a removable back cover? Plus the pics show a sort of unibody approach. The design around the sides of the phone looks eerily similar to the iPhone 6.

You mean the 'rumoured leaked photos' seem to show that. But no one knows for sure, how do we know their isn't an SD card slot hidden somewhere, and the new Oneplus2 has a removable back but not removable battery.
Basically we should not be discussing things as FACT as their are no facts about the Note 5 yet. We will know in 2 weeks ish, I mean if they don't offer an SD slot then they may only offer the phone in 64GB and 128GB sizes, or even 256GB, wh knows?

It contributes to the fact Android handsets (the very top end priced ones) just don't seem to be able to hold onto resale value compared to iPhones which is good from a buyers perspective, those who can wait out 4-6 months can get a flagship nearly new (previously owned) for $300-400 off its original retail price - for sellers & traders however it is a bit of a nightmare.

I waited 4.5 months to get a Note 4 and picked up a sealed one for just over €400 - nearly €300 off its original RRP retail price..

That's an advantage with Android flagships, that if you wait a bit they fall in price as they should do, iPhones never do that. Makes them a bargain. I reckon by the end of the year the G4 should be under £400.

 

[MRU]

Basically we should not be discussing things as FACT as their are no facts about the Note 5 yet. We will know in 2 weeks ish, I mean if they don't offer an SD slot then they may only offer the phone in 64GB and 128GB sizes, or even 256GB, wh knows?

We know from the leaked benchmarks they came from a 32GB handset. From all the case manufactures leaks there is no slot for SD card.

Guarantee it will be 32 / 64 / 128 with no SD card. As I've been predicting for a long time In two weeks it'll be FACT and I can scream 'told ye so'

 

[spinedoc77]

Looks like the Note 5 & S6 Edge + may not be as priced as ultra high as I feared.

Samsung have announced they are going to 'adjust' [reduce] the price of S6/S6 Edge after disappointing earnings following release and drop of 8% in mobile smartphone earnings from same time last year.

So expect Note 5 & S6 Edge + to basically fill the S6 & S6 Edge pricing schemes current.



Whilst most will agree price of Samsung's flagships went just too high, the big issue for many is that with a price drop it means that expensive phone is going to lose a nice chunk of its resale value now. It contributes to the fact Android handsets (the very top end priced ones) just don't seem to be able to hold onto resale value compared to iPhones which is good from a buyers perspective, those who can wait out 4-6 months can get a flagship nearly new (previously owned) for $300-400 off its original retail price - for sellers & traders however it is a bit of a nightmare.

I waited 4.5 months to get a Note 4 and picked up a sealed one for just over €400 - nearly €300 off its original RRP retail price.

Samsung need to learn that Apple isn't their main competitor at all - it's the vast array of Android OEM's that are getting super competitive.

I'll skip Note 5 for now, the Moto X Style will be my next Android handset. I'll reconsider in Dec / Jan if the price of previously owned models similarly tanks.

I would assume the resale value drop would be consistent with the initial pricing, meaning it would be a wash. It's amazing how fast these drop in price, like a Mercedes. I'm regularly seeing Note 4's for a bit over $300, where an iPhone 6plus 16gb still sells for $550.

Moto X style looks quite awesome. It's way too thick, no fingerprint sensor, but other than that it's just perfect. Plus it has a MicroSD slot!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah I'm seriously considering the MotoX this year.

 

[The Game 161]

Looks like the Note 5 & S6 Edge + may not be as priced as ultra high as I feared.

Samsung have announced they are going to 'adjust' [reduce] the price of S6/S6 Edge after disappointing earnings following release and drop of 8% in mobile smartphone earnings from same time last year.

So expect Note 5 & S6 Edge + to basically fill the S6 & S6 Edge pricing schemes current.



Whilst most will agree price of Samsung's flagships went just too high, the big issue for many is that with a price drop it means that expensive phone is going to lose a nice chunk of its resale value now. It contributes to the fact Android handsets (the very top end priced ones) just don't seem to be able to hold onto resale value compared to iPhones which is good from a buyers perspective, those who can wait out 4-6 months can get a flagship nearly new (previously owned) for $300-400 off its original retail price - for sellers & traders however it is a bit of a nightmare.

I waited 4.5 months to get a Note 4 and picked up a sealed one for just over €400 - nearly €300 off its original RRP retail price.

Samsung need to learn that Apple isn't their main competitor at all - it's the vast array of Android OEM's that are getting super competitive.

I'll skip Note 5 for now, the Moto X Style will be my next Android handset. I'll reconsider in Dec / Jan if the price of previously owned models similarly tanks.

resale value is huge

i sold my note 4 for £264...while last year i got over £300 for my iphone 5.

I also sold my ipad 2 for £100...which is nuts really.

updates and how smooth IOS is is why i have decided to head back to apple. I'm still using samsung of course but i have an ipad air 2 and love how smooth it is.

 

[tbayrgs]

...updates and how smooth IOS is is why i have decided to head back to apple. I'm still using samsung of course but i have an ipad air 2 and love how smooth it is.

Really?!! Not entirely, right? Didn't you just switch to a Galaxy S6?

Your affection for Samsung devices is well documented and I don't recall seeing you upset with their performance so was just a little shocked to read this.

 

[The Game 161]

Really?!! Not entirely, right? Didn't you just switch to a Galaxy S6?

Your affection for Samsung devices is well documented and I don't recall seeing you upset with their performance so was just a little shocked to read this.

Yeah I'm not getting rid.

Still love my S6 edge and my note 12.2 but wanted to try apple again.

Certain things I've missed like

Podcasts
Ibooks
Newstand

And certain things like my phone freezing and texting where it has lagged has started to bother me.

I just wanted a smoother experience which is why I bought the air 2 and I'm loving how great it is.

I want to enjoy best of both worlds. Never thought I would go back but I have missed certain things

 

[tbayrgs]

Yeah I'm not getting rid.

Still love my S6 edge and my note 12.2 but wanted to try apple again.

Certain things I've missed like

Podcasts
Ibooks
Newstand

And certain things like my phone freezing and texting where it has lagged has started to bother me.

I just wanted a smoother experience which is why I bought the air 2 and I'm loving how great it is.

I want to enjoy best of both worlds. Never thought I would go back but I have missed certain things

Best of both worlds. I thought I would stay full immersed in the Apple world for the time being but am seriously considering picking up a new Moto X. Never say never I guess.

And while very late to the game, you'll get more multi-window goodness in a couple months on your iPad as well. I didn't load the iOS betas on my iDevices this year but the few I've talked to that have tried it on their Air 2s say it works really well.

 

[The Game 161]

Best of both worlds. I thought I would stay full immersed in the Apple world for the time being but am seriously considering picking up a new Moto X. Never say never I guess.

And while very late to the game, you'll get more multi-window goodness in a couple months on your iPad as well. I didn't load the iOS betas on my iDevices this year but the few I've talked to that have tried it on their Air 2s say it works really well.

I do like what apple have done with ios

Alot better go me than when I last used it

 

[MRU]

I do like what apple have done with ios

Alot better go me than when I last used it

Yeah I'm really digging iOS 9 on my iPad Air 2 myself. Haven't tried it on my iPhone - will likely just upgrade my 6 plus to a 6S plus which will likely come with it pre-installed anyway.

Like you say best of both worlds and it's only by using them together and current generation against current generation I find it interesting that they are all heading in a similar direction albeit from different starting points and objective - however there has never been more correlation in design and aesthetic.

So my next Android will be the Moto X Style and my next iOS device will be the iPhone 6S Plus.

Happy times.

 

[apolloa]

We know from the leaked benchmarks they came from a 32GB handset. From all the case manufactures leaks there is no slot for SD card.

Guarantee it will be 32 / 64 / 128 with no SD card. As I've been predicting for a long time In two weeks it'll be FACT and I can scream 'told ye so'

haha we will see....

Well seems like we will find out about Sony's next phone on Monday. Man Sony's mobile division is in trouble..

I can't wait for a camera shoot out of all these top end new phones at the end of the year.

 

[spinedoc77]

Yeah I'm really digging iOS 9 on my iPad Air 2 myself. Haven't tried it on my iPhone - will likely just upgrade my 6 plus to a 6S plus which will likely come with it pre-installed anyway.

Like you say best of both worlds and it's only by using them together and current generation against current generation I find it interesting that they are all heading in a similar direction albeit from different starting points and objective - however there has never been more correlation in design and aesthetic.

So my next Android will be the Moto X Style and my next iOS device will be the iPhone 6S Plus.

Happy times.

I've been intrigued by ios9 and am pretty fed up with Samsung terrible quality control and the many things that simply don't work on my $814 flagship phone. I may grab an iPhone 6 plus to play around with until the Moto x comes out. Do you know if iOS9 can be jailbroken?

 

[MRU]

I've been intrigued by ios9 and am pretty fed up with Samsung terrible quality control and the many things that simply don't work on my $814 flagship phone. I may grab an iPhone 6 plus to play around with until the Moto x comes out. Do you know if iOS9 can be jailbroken?

I'm not sure about jail broken status of it at the moment. I don't really ever use jailbreaks.

 

[The Game 161]

I've been intrigued by ios9 and am pretty fed up with Samsung terrible quality control and the many things that simply don't work on my $814 flagship phone. I may grab an iPhone 6 plus to play around with until the Moto x comes out. Do you know if iOS9 can be jailbroken?

I get that...using the air i forgot how smooth the OS really is.

and i have missed it. So chances are I will be grabbing the 6 plus S too to tie things into my air, I love my edge but I do miss the larger screen.