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Tig Bitties

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I'm not bashing the Note 5, I'm just severely disappointed it's not the super phone it was rumored to be.

- 7422 next gen SoC
- 4,100mAh battery.

If the Note 5 had those rumored specs I'd be first in line to get one. But as is, I give two craps about this phone, and will get the next gen Nexus in November.
 
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The Game 161

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Having the same battery as the S6 and S6 edge is a joke...more so when my battery life is very below average on my edge. Never lasts anywhere near a full day when on 3G
 

mclld

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I'm not bashing the Note 5, I'm just severely disappointed it's not the super phone it was rumored to be.

- 7422 next gen SoC
- 4,100mAh battery.

If the Note 5 had those rumored specs I'd be first in line to get one. But as is, I give two craps about this phone, and will get the next gen Nexus in November.
This I dont really get, do you really think the nexus will be better spec'd?
 

spriter

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Agree with battery comments - either thicken it up and go long. Or if you're going to start plugging portable chargers, go crazy thin - give me a reason and benefit to toting around a portable charger!

As for the 7420 I'm not surprised. It's less than 6-months old and seemingly still way ahead of anything else so why change it when most buyers will never notice.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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S6 Edge Plus design combined with the S-Pen is what the Note 5 should have been. Why would I want a curved back vs a curved screen?

I'll be sticking with my S6 edge for awhile.
 
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jamezr

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I'm not bashing the Note 5, I'm just severely disappointed it's not the super phone it was rumored to be.

- 7422 next gen SoC
- 4,100mAh battery.

If the Note 5 had those rumored specs I'd be first in line to get one. But as is, I give two craps about this phone, and will get the next gen Nexus in November.
what about the Nexus is better? Camera? Not on your life! Performance? Guess again! Speed....nope so that sounds like 3 strikes.....
 

MRU

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Having the same battery as the S6 and S6 edge is a joke...more so when my battery life is very below average on my edge. Never lasts anywhere near a full day when on 3G
It's 450mAh bigger than the S6 in fairness. (400 than the S6e ) We will see in due course if it's extra size makes it more power hungry. If it doesn't then it should in theory get a good 20% more battery based on the math. However it'll likely due to increased screen size be closer to 10% increase.

S6 Edge Plus design combined with the S-Pen is what the Note 5 should have been. Why would I want a curved back vs a curved screen?

I'll be sticking with my S6 edge for awhile.

I think it was a wise decision from a practicality perspective, trying to write on a curved glass screen would not have been practical and if they portioned off just the non curved area (the Note 4 Edge treats each section independently but singles out main area from its edge) then the usability area would have been much smaller and the software in its current form simply could not have worked.

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Personally I think the Note 5 is a great looking device - especially the titanium one MKBHD covered in his hands on. The only true baffling thing from my perspective was the decision to not release it globally which will inevitably hinder its sales performance, the suggestion that they may not release it in 128gb and of course the fact that the Edge plus is not really the answer for existing Note owners in Europe. If anything it should have been the reverse with the Edge plus only having a select market release and Note 5 released global.

Outside of that, I did call all its specs so I am not disappointed in that regard. It's screen will inevitably be one of the best out there quality wise, the CPU is blazing fast in the S6 - so again no concern there. The extra 1gb ram should in theory provide a safe buffer to the aggressive ram issue which on the whole will make the device feel very very snappy in day to day use.

The S-Pen has been improved and the aesthetics generally of Touchwiz work well - the blurred people edge affect for S-Pen actions looks nice.

SideSync improvements especially for mac support is welcome albeit not actually new. It has been around since the S5 with PC user support.

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Essentially biggest issues here is that ...

Samsung did a poor job selling its phone in the presentation and clearly a poorer job 'selling it' by not actually releasing it to 750 million people.

Starting your presentation telling everyone how you've defined the market and then choosing to opt to ignore one of those markets will go down in the annals of terrible blunders.

The pricing of the S6 Edge Plus in Europe does not aid the situation or provide a good trade off.

They do deserve the flack here.

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But outside of that its a great pity that many of us simply won't see what looks like a great looking and still because of the S-Pen 'unique' phablets in the market. I truly hope the Note 5 sells enough in Asia & USA to warrant a Note 6 and that sales are not so affected that they decide not to go down the Note route in future. That would be a horrible event for consumers.
 
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rhinosrcool

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It's 450mAh bigger than the S6 in fairness. We will see in due course if it's extra size makes it more power hungry. If it doesn't then it should in theory get a good 20% more battery based on the math.



I think it was a wise discussion from a practicality perspective, trying to write on a curved glass screen would not have been practical and if they portioned off just the non curved area (the Note 4 Edge treats each section independently but singles out main area from its edge) then the usability area would have been much smaller and the software in its current form simply could not have worked.

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Personally I think the Note 5 is a great looking device - especially the titanium one MKBHD covered in his hands on. The only true baffling thing from my perspective was the decision to not release it globally which will inevitably hinder its sales performance, the suggestion that they may not release it in 128gb and of course the fact that the Edge plus is not really the answer for existing Note owners in Europe. If anything it should have been the reverse with the Edge plus only having a select market release and Note 5 released global.

Outside of that, I did call all its specs so I am not disappointed in that regard. It's screen will inevitably be one of the best out there quality wise, the CPU is blazing fast in the S6 - so again no concern there. The extra 1gb ram should in theory provide a safe buffer to the aggressive ram issue which on the whole will make the device feel very very snappy in day to day use.

The S-Pen has been improved and the aesthetics generally of Touchwiz work well - the blurred people edge affect for S-Pen actions looks nice.

SideSync improvements especially for mac support is welcome albeit not actually new. It has been around since the S5 with PC user support.

------

Essentially biggest issues here is that ...

Samsung did a poor job selling its phone in the presentation and clearly a poorer job 'selling it' by not actually releasing it to 750 million people.

Starting your presentation telling everyone how you've defined the market and then choosing to opt to ignore one of those markets will go down in the annals of terrible blunders.

The pricing of the S6 Edge Plus in Europe does not aid the situation or provide a good trade off.

They do deserve the flack here.

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But outside of that its a great pity that many of us simply won't see what looks like a great looking and still because of the S-Pen 'unique' phablets in the market. I truly hope the Note 5 sells enough in Asia & USA to warrant a Note 6 and that sales are not so affected that they decide not to go down the Note route in future. That would be a horrible event for consumers.

Holy sh#it! I was just going to post something very similar; you read my mind.

Yeah, discounting the European market is bad and I get many people's frustration. Maybe, in a half-assed way, they think that when it's released in Europe, especially the UK, that it will be like a new introduction (and boost sales)?

Once I get transferred to Tmobile, I will look into getting the Note 5. Currently, I have the Note 3 and the 5 is a big upgrade. Yes, I do like removable batteries. But, with quick-charging and wireless charging, I'll accept the trade-off. Also, no sd slot sucks but there is the 64gb option (pricey!). The screen will be better (albeit the Note 3 is good) and the camera is a big upgrade. For me, the s pen's enhancements look good. Plus, the slimmer form looks like it will be nice to hold (yes, if I had a choice, I would trade a thicker body for a bigger battery). From the many posts, I may be in the minority. That's how it goes.
 
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Sevanw

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I love the new SPen functionality. I honestly cannot do without my memos. Being able to write straight away is HUGE for improved usability. If anyone says this phone is a disapontment then happily spends more or the same for any other device, I would sure like to know what that device is and how it's so much better than the Note 5. If your reasons for buying another device that cost the same or more are a subjective, then, you know my response to that. :rolleyes:
 

jamezr

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From GSMARENA hands on.

Samsung Galaxy Note5 / Galaxy S6 edge+ battery
Both the Samsung Galaxy Note5 and Galaxy S6 edge+ come with a 3,000mAh capacity battery. It marks a downgrade compared to the Note 4's 3,220mAh, but the more efficient chipset coupled with advancements in display technology may actually help the Note5 (or the similarly spec'd S6 edge+) pull ahead of the previous generation.

And while the Note Edge did come with a 3,000mAh battery and noticeably inferior battery endurance compared to its regular sibling, the Galaxy S6/S6 edge pair proved that that the edges no longer take a toll on the battery. Of course, detailed battery tests are in order, and we won't be passing judgement until those are out.

WE hope this is the way the battery shakes out.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note5_galaxy_edge_s6_plus_hands_on-review-1283p4.php
 

Shanghaichica

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Apr 8, 2013
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Oh well now that the dust has settled. I may well pick up the Galaxy S6 edge plus. Hopefully it will be available in 128 GB. I hope it is not too expensive on contract.

I wish I could get the note 5 though :(

I will wait until after the iPhone 6S plus announcement though.
 
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Shanghaichica

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Now that I've got over the disappointment I've thought about what I would have liked to see in the note 5.

I had long ago accepted that there would be no removable battery, SD card or waterproofing so I wouldn't have asked for those.

I've tried to be as realistic as possible

This is what I would have wanted:

Availability in Europe
128GB model
New processor
4GB ram (present)
New camera software/software enhancement (present)
Updated version of touch wiz with one or two new features
Two new S-pen features (We got one)
Improved multi window functionality (more compatible apps)
 

GadgetSN

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I love the new SPen functionality. I honestly cannot do without my memos. Being able to write straight away is HUGE for improved usability. If anyone says this phone is a disapontment then happily spends more or the same for any other device, I would sure like to know what that device is and how it's so much better than the Note 5. If your reasons for buying another device that cost the same or more are a subjective, then, you know my response to that. :rolleyes:

Give it a rest. You do realise the majority of previous Note owners do not give a monkeys about the S pen right? It was the large screen that they wanted.

There is more to a product than what it does. There is also more to a product than specs. Yes alot of this other stuff is subjective. The Note screen is too small for hardcore note taking etc. People will use other devices. The S pen functionality is a minor selling point. You will see this in the Edge plus sales vs Note 5.

So to answer your constant question, the Edge plus is a significantly better phone the the Note 5 OVERALL. Yes, massively better.
 
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BlueGoldAce

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Give it a rest. You do realise the majority of previous Note owners do not give a monkeys about the S pen right? It was the large screen that they wanted.

There is more to a product than what it does. There is also more to a product than specs. Yes alot of this other stuff is subjective. The Note screen is too small for hardcore note taking etc. People will use other devices. The S pen functionality is a minor selling point. You will see this in the Edge plus sales vs Note 5.

So to answer your constant question, the Edge plus is a significantly better phone the the Note 5 OVERALL. Yes, massively better.
How? How does a curved screen make it better?

My wife preferred her regular s6 to my edge when I had it. So it seems your reasoning is solely subjective.

I thought the edge was cool...but getting tempered glass screen protector was next to impossible. The edge has advantages and disadvantages.
 
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Shanghaichica

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How? How does a curved screen make it better?

My wife preferred her regular s6 to my edge when I had it. So it seems your reasoning is solely subjective.

I thought the edge was cool...but getting tempered glass screen protector was next to impossible. The edge has advantages and disadvantages.
You've just made me think of one of the down sides to the edge screen. I don't think I'd feel comfortable rocking it without a properly applied screen protector.
 

MRU

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You've just made me think of one of the down sides to the edge screen. I don't think I'd feel comfortable rocking it without a properly applied screen protector.
The screen protector situation is not ideal. I've had maybe a dozen or so different ones and none have been great.

The full-front tempered curved ones are ok but feel like they're creating a gap and are not as reactive as without.

The full TPU ones will work around the curved sides but they leave a tacky spongey feel to the surface which just feels odd to me. They also aren't that adhesive and can come off too easily.

The standard tempered and plastic screen protectors don't cover the sides meaning you have this lip on either side of your screen (between the edges) that feels horrendous and kills the aesthetics.

It's problematic and one I haven't found a perfect solution to yet and I must have spent well over €100+ in the pursuit to do so. If anyone finds a brand thats good - share...
 
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Technarchy

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Give it a rest. You do realise the majority of previous Note owners do not give a monkeys about the S pen right? It was the large screen that they wanted.

Wrong. The thing I miss most about my Note 4 is the S-Pen. When I got the S6 I felt like I for sure lost some functionality and had to work around it
 

Oohara

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Meh, color me unimpressed. It looks exactly like my Note 4 from the front. The metal frame and glass back are ok, but at this point is simply an entry level requirement for a flagship, certainly nothing even remotely new and fresh. It's a completely rehashed Note 4 otherwise, no innovation whatsoever, on the contrary there is a marked devolution with a smaller battery, no removable memory or battery.

Samsung really really needed to innovate to compete, there is just not much of a demand for a $900 flagship unless you are Apple. The edge concept was one such innovation, unfortunately it didn't have much functionality, just looks. The Note 5 would have been much more impressive if it had the curved edges. It's still baffling why they split the market and released both the Note 5 and S6 edge plus, why not just combine them and make a beautiful phone they could put all their muscle behind.
This is exactly how I feel too. The 5 looks a bit more slick than the 4 but that's it, in general it still has the Samsung trademark dated feel that all of their devices have. And their logo remains dated looking and sitting on the front of device.

Not to mention what happens as soon as you activate the display. Immediately when I see TouchWiz, and nothing here seems to have changed with the release of the Note 5, I still pick up a breeze carrying this eerie 90's office smell.....of Mac Quadras, fax machines, Palm Pilots, Windows 95.... Samsung just cannot for the life of them put together a design ethos that feels fresh and modern.

And the stale retro looks are of course reinforced by that joke of a keyboard cover. I'm still having trouble believing that one is actually real, I kind of have to pinch myself and check that I'm not dreaming... I mean, what the hell is this zombie of a smartphone accessory?? In the year 2015??? It looks like they've literally torn the face off of an old Blueberry and are grafting it onto a Note. Literally. Now why would you do that?

I predict 3 types of fail
1) Current Note owners will say meh, it's the same as my Note 4 why spend $900 to get more of the same?
2) Non Note owners wanting a phablet will wonder why the s6 edge plus didn't get a stylus, or why the Note 5 didn't get curved edges, in their confusion they will just end up getting an iPhone 6s plus.
3) Apple owners will have just as little desire to switch as when the Note 4 came out.

Anyway, I didn't plan on getting a Note 5 anyway. I'm still considering the edge plus, but man every time I use my Note 4 and the crappy hardware rears its ugly head I wonder if I want to put myself through that torture again. I'm hoping their QC has improved. But I won't buy at launch, 3 months should be sufficient to see them half price on swappa.

Let me just add one more fail scenario here.

4) The prospective Note buyer lives in Europe.

Samsung, W T F??

Disclaimer: I am not a Samsung hater in general. I currently love the Tab S 8.4 I just bought, and I used Note 2 and 3 as daily drivers for long periods of time. Speaking of the Tab S 8.4, I actually find that design more fresh looking than that of the Note 5... With the new Tabs from this year being a step back.
And for TW - always loved the functionality (most of it), but hated the design. On the Tab S I can bear it because of how split screen etc shine on a tablet.
 
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MRU

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So to answer your constant question, the Edge plus is a significantly better phone the the Note 5 OVERALL. Yes, massively better.

Whilst I think the S6 Edge was better than the S6 offering not only better aesthetics but also additional functionality over the standard s6.

However the Note 5 in this instance offers far far more functionality and is arguably the better device between the S6 Edge Plus and itself.

Not only does it provide more functionality it is does so being more cost effective too. Value for money wise between the two devices even if you didn't use the S-Pen the Note 5 is the wiser choice imho.
 
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Savor

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Neither S6 edge + or Note5 wowed me since the original Galaxy S6 edge did most of the impressing this year. These follow-ups is like trying to perform right after Vince Carter in the 2000 NBA dunk contest.

But I will say the S6 edge design has endured! In plat gold, they both look hot. I can't believe Samsung have already out designed Apple and several companies this year. Any variant always turns heads. Samsung has already got a huge headstart over everyone with these slopey-edged screens. Still very forward thinking by them in regards to design and SoC used.
 

jamezr

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