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jamezr

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I purchase more Samsung devices per annum than any other manufacturer, and I will call them out when they disappoint or do not perform to a standard their price should be reflective of.

When a device costs me twice as much as another, I will hold it to a higher standard. I wouldn't hold a BMW to the same standard as a Fiat. So if a device costs me less then yes I can excuse some of its faults, but when a device costs me €949 and is being outperformed in some areas than a device costing me €400 - I will call them out on it.
The Note 5 is twice as much as what exactly? Verizon pricing below.

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MRU

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The Note 5 is twice as much as what exactly? Verizon pricing below.

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Who said I was referring to the Note 5? I was referring to my S6E which was €949 off contract. If you actually read my posts in this thread I have not said anything bad about the Note 5 itself. I have indeed said it's a lovely looking device, I have said the launch event was poor, the keyboard case looked horrible and criticised the European launch or lack of. How is any of that false?
 

The Game 161

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reports from sam mobile

note 5 will appear in UK next year...

whats the point in that...seriously.
 

Tsepz

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You can't go wrong with an iPhone. I have one and will probably get the IP6s plus too.
Will it not be available in South Africa? I thought was just Europe that had to wait until 2016.
Not releasing globally is a mistake IMHO.
But I think it is funny to hear people knock a phone for not having a feature then go to another phone that doesn't have those features either......

South Africa usually follows what happens in the UK from what I have seen, but I have asked Samsung South Africa to clarify on Twitter if the Note 5 is indeed coming here.

Well without those features I find it pointless living with Androids quirks. Not only will I be missing features I loved, but I will have to continue with slow updates (we don't get Nexus down here and Motorola left South Africa years ago, have to buy them unlocked online now), and I also get the feeling many more OEMs will follow Samsung and take features away, so I do not want to run into the same disappointment a year or two later.
 

Tsepz

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I think it's simply because if the reasoning you choose a Note device over an iPhone or other was the the removable storage - MicroSD card, big removable battery - the things that were ubitiquous with a Samsung note device. If they were no longer factors - and if the Software wasn't really a buying factor between deciding which you like - then you may be less swayed towards one device over the other and perhaps try / go for the iPhone instead.

It's not people are saying it's Ok not to have this feature on the iPhone (or giving it a pass as you have often phrased it) - but merely if the differentiator that once swayed you more towards the Note series no longer held true - you may feel swayed to go iPhone instead.
Exactly! You get what I am saying.
 
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jamezr

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I can't wait to try this...

SIDESYNC
Share across your devices
Work effortlessly between the Galaxy Note5 and most PCs or Macs.2 Quickly drag and drop photos and documents between devices. And even respond to a text or answer a call from your smartphone directly on your laptop.
 
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jamezr

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Why the heck did they not expand on that feature? That is great
Yeah they glossed over a lot of features. They don't do product releases very well.
I nice demonstration would have been great!
 
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BlueGoldAce

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Anyone know if the Bluetooth chip is different from s6? I had s lot of trouble with the sounds cutting in and out when sued with my various Bluetooth headphones. Haven't had that problem with the phones I have had since then.
 

gotluck

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I can't wait to try this...

SIDESYNC
Share across your devices
Work effortlessly between the Galaxy Note5 and most PCs or Macs.2 Quickly drag and drop photos and documents between devices. And even respond to a text or answer a call from your smartphone directly on your laptop.

I wonder if this will be more effective than pushbullet

pushbullet lacks the ability to pass calls too
 

BlueGoldAce

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I wonder if this will be more effective than pushbullet

pushbullet lacks the ability to pass calls too
It mirrors text and calls with Mac now? Didn't even know it worked with Mac...that would be nice and all but erase one advantage iOS has right now for myself.
 

MRU

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I hope side-sync will come to existing devices it does look good and more functionality than Moto Connect which works within Chrome via an extension.

Is there any new stylus features within existing Note 5 stylus apps (action memo and such). Again they didn't cover this at all.

I read on sammobile the Apps Edge part should come to the S6 edge via an update.
 

Sevanw

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If you knock this phone, and pick up another phone, no matter what it is, you now have an inferior phone. Hate all you like, but It really is that simple. This phone has no equal I'm functionality.

And the next Gear and UI looks wicked with its rotating bezel. So much smarter than a dinky little crown. Note 5 + Gear A = Most Premium mobile tech package of 2015.
 

RMXO

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I'll link someone from XDA on features of the Note 5 aka larger S6 with a SPEN

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62317450&postcount=31

BarryH_GEG;62317450 said:
Backwards:
  • Loss of removable storage

  • Non-removable battery

  • Loss of IR blaster

Forward:

  • Battery - I'll start with why I place the battery here vs. "backwards." Here's a detailed review of the impact on battery endurance with the S6 on 7420 with a slightly smaller battery than the S5. Spoiler alert: it's an improvement in the vast majority of use cases.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/9146/the-samsung-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge-review/3

    Many of us AT&T Note 4 owners started getting crappy(ier) battery life after one or more of their updates. I have nowhere to go but up with the Note 5.

  • The camera - based on the S6 reviews, faster launch times, better low light performance, and now (finally) Samsung's supplementing OIS with s/w image stabilization which many detailed reviewers said was a problem with the S6.

  • Durability - whoever picked soft metal to create "chamfered edges" on the Note 4 should be shot. I baby my phone and have been annoyed looking at it starting at the three month point (I'm at 12). My Note 4's GG4 display doesn't have a scratch on it after a year without a screen protector. Now the front and back will share that durability. The new metal edges look much less dainty than what's on the Note 4.

  • Wireless quick charge - enough said.

  • S Pen enhancements - for those that use it some of the heavier users understand the value of the new benefits. And being able to take notes on the locked device is sheer brilliance.

  • Samsung Pay - The LoopPay features aren't backwardly compatible with older Samsung phones because of h/w requirements so no soup for you.

  • Smaller, thinner, lighter, and easier to palm with the curved glass backside edges - enough said.

  • More powerful - we already know it based on S6 comparisons to both S5 and Note 4. The GPU isn't fabulous but that truly only impacts intense games and those that play them.

  • Better multitasking - 4GB of RAM with a full 2GB always available. Look at the speed with which recent apps opens, app's launch, and the general smoothness of scrolling in some of the hands-on videos. Faster RAM and NAND are also contributing to this improved user experience.

  • Better audio - Samsung didn't mention this but it seems both cool and innovative. From GSMArena...

    "Another interesting software feature that Samsung demonstrated for audio was UHQA, or Ultra High Quality Audio. I normally don't bother to talk about these features because it's pretty easy for them to end up as gimmicks, but this feature is effectively designed to try and reduce the effects of lossy compression when high frequencies have been cut off. As seen in the photo above, when UHQA was off the sample music topped out at around 8-10 KHz, while with UHQA on we see harmonics extending up to 20 KHz. Subjectively, it did seem that this interpolated version was much closer to a lossless music file, but my ears aren't particularly astute in that regard."

  • A fingerprint sensor that works and does something - if the Samsung Pay launch goes well, especially with the ability to use traditional terminals, Samsung Pay stands to leap frog the others. Besides, it's cool to pay with your phone and it's amazing how many people are still in awe. I can't wait to start using it at non-NFC equipped terminals. It'll blow their minds.

  • Memory speed - giving up expandable storage but gaining a 10x faster and more reliable internal alternative is a nice get. And nothing needs to be said about the faster RAM.

  • Better wireless – check out the Wi-Fi throughput speeds of the S6. Also, the Note 4 had a GPS issue that either affected certain regions (it affected AT&T) or perhaps certain devices. Read up on the S6’s GPS performance. Free at last, free at last.

There may be more but those are the things I remembered and/or meant something to me. Every year, it never fails, previous version Note owners ridicule the just announced newer version and predict the end of the Note-series for things Samsung did and didn't do. They die down after initial sales numbers start coming out and the happy comments from the newer device's owners begin to drown them out. There were 6ish people on the Note 4 forum who were as negative (or more so) than some here. I saw four of them on the Note 4 forum with no mention of their former resistance.

People should buy what makes them happy. ;)
 

mclld

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"If you knock this phone, and pick up another phone, no matter what it is, you now have an inferior phone."

Working overtime!
 
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Tig Bitties

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I just can't fathom or understand the designers of smartphones, especially Phablets that markert demands good long battery life. How frigging hard would it be to throw in a 3,600mAh battery instead, a MAXX style battery like Motorola used to do. Costs wise I doubt it barely adds much that at all, and thickness wise, yes it will make the phone a hair thicker, but really not even noticeable.

Who the heck wouldn't want a battery beast powerhouse Phablet, vs, a skinny thin Phablet with mediocre battery life ?
 

Tig Bitties

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Does the Note 5 have that new integrated chipset that Samsung has been talking about ? The one with everything on one die, like LTE +processor + ram or something ? Was supposed to be a lot more efficient on battery, plus also smoother/ faster. Is that in the Note 5 ?
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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Does the Note 5 have that new integrated chipset that Samsung has been talking about ? The one with everything on one die, like LTE +processor + ram or something ? Was supposed to be a lot more efficient on battery, plus also smoother/ faster. Is that in the Note 5 ?
That was the Exynos 7422 - but we ended up with the same 7420. Though I would not be surprised if some regions get the 7422 despite not being mentioned today. Just like I'm sure some select countries will get the dual sim edition.
 

GadgetSN

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The Note 5 will be the S6 phablet equivalent of the S6 and S6 Edge. It doesn't matter what they do with it because the majority of people will prefer the S6 Edge plus. It seems only the few on here will buy the Note 5.

Samsung should just concentrate on the Edge and add an S Pen to it.

The Note 5 looks ugly relative to its brother and the competition.

As for other comments on this thread I cant believe how some cannot see that Samsung is a lower tier brand and therefore needs to offer more.

My AP watch costs £20k and can only tell the time and is inaccurate over a certain period of time. It doesn't mean a digital seiko with sat nav can have the same price tag and desirability.

Yes I know some of you will dispute the brand tier of Samsung but that is because you are biased.

The Note 5 has no rival???????? What a load of rubbish. The Note is dead unless it morphs into a Note Edge.
 
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