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Galaxy Note 5

tbayrgs said:
It's a good start but I'd take these results with a grain of salt considering what many have experienced in real life usage. Haven't quite a few Note 4 users on these forums claimed their battery performance diminished considerably when the Note 4 was updated to Lollipop--the same version the Note 5 ships with? And jamerz, please correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you even say that the iPhone 6+ was at least as good as, if not a little better than your Note 4 concerning battery life? I only mention the latter because according to these tests, the Note 4 should be 2 hours better than the 6+. Same goes for the Nexus--I've yet to see anyone claim the Nexus 6 has better battery life than the iPhone 6+ yet this charts claims otherwise.

Again, not here to tout the iPhone 6+ but rather emphasis a bit of caution regarding these early benchmarks.
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My iphone 6 Plus has great battery life. Just as good as my Note 4 and best at idle/standby time.

I do take these tests as a good indicator of what to expect. Nothing more. There are some that say they get 8 hrs SOT on a Note 4 but I have never gotten that. there are some that say they get some kind of great battery life on there iphone 6 plus...but I have never gotten that.
The same with benchmarks. They are a good indicator of what to expect in performance.
 
tbayrgs said:
It's a good start but I'd take these results with a grain of salt considering what many have experienced in real life usage. Haven't quite a few Note 4 users on these forums claimed their battery performance diminished considerably when the Note 4 was updated to Lollipop--the same version the Note 5 ships with? And jamerz, please correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you even say that the iPhone 6+ was at least as good as, if not a little better than your Note 4 concerning battery life? I only mention the latter because according to these tests, the Note 4 should be 2 hours better than the 6+. Same goes for the Nexus--I've yet to see anyone claim the Nexus 6 has better battery life than the iPhone 6+ yet this charts claims otherwise.

Again, not here to tout the iPhone 6+ but rather emphasis a bit of caution regarding these early benchmarks.
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Yep

My note 4 battery life started to suck after 5.0..not as bad as S6 edge now though:(
 
jamezr said:
My iphone 6 Plus has great battery life. Just as good as my Note 4 and best at idle/standby time.

I do take these tests as a good indicator of what to expect. Nothing more. There are some that say they get 8 hrs SOT on a Note 4 but I have never gotten that. there are some that say they get some kind of great battery life on there iphone 6 plus...but I have never gotten that.
The same with benchmarks. They are a good indicator of what to expect in performance.
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Actually though, by definition, this is exactly why they're NOT a good indicator. These benchmarks indicate one should expect better battery life from the Note 4 and Nexus 6 than the iPhone 6+, by a very large margin when in truth, that's proven to not be the case. Of course they're will always be outliers on either side but you don't use those as good indicators either. A GOOD indicator would be one closely in one with real world results.

All I'm saying is, people need to stop putting so much emphasis on preliminary battery benchmarks that have a history of not being necessarily indicative of real world results or anecdotal reports from a handful of users on forums who've had the phone for a couple days, and wait for more robust, thorough evaluations and reviews from more than a day or two of use before passing judgement. None of this should be taken as gospel at this point.
 
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Tig Bitties said:
Note 5 Battery Life
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/note-5-battery-life-t3180515

This guy shows like 3h 23m of Screen On time, with 22% battery life left. Meaning he might get around 4h Screen On time with the Note 5. IMO that's sucky bad, but probably realistic.
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Look at the numbers.......His SOT was almost 3.5 hrs and screen time was 22% of the battery useage that means he was using his phone with the screen on more than anything else. Looks at the numbers they don't support what you said. They point to the opposite.
 
jamezr said:
Look at the numbers.......His SOT was almost 3.5 hrs and screen time was 22% of the battery useage that means he was using his phone with the screen on more than anything else. Looks at the numbers they don't support what you said. They point to the opposite.
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I think he's right on jamezr--22% remaining battery life after approximately 9.5 hours of usage with 3 hrs and 23 min of SOT doesn't strike me as exceptional and based on those numbers, he'd get just over 4 hrs of total SOT. What would alarm me more is the 17% of power used by Android Services. Could it be that this number is higher during the initial setup of the phone or is that what many users currently see on their respective Android phones?

Of course, as I don't put much weight into other preliminary reports, I wouldn't with this single user either. Patience folks.
 
tbayrgs said:
I think he's right on jamezr--22% remaining battery life after approximately 9.5 hours of usage with 3 hrs and 23 min of SOT doesn't strike me as exceptional and based on those numbers, he'd get just over 4 hrs of total SOT. What would alarm me more is the 17% of power used by Android Services. Could it be that this number is higher during the initial setup of the phone or is that what many users currently see on their respective Android phones?

Of course, as I don't put much weight into other preliminary reports, I wouldn't with this single user either. Patience folks.
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Not on my Note 4.......I can have 5.5hrs SOT and have it take up less than 20% of total battery.
 
tbayrgs said:
It's a good start but I'd take these results with a grain of salt considering what many have experienced in real life usage. Haven't quite a few Note 4 users on these forums claimed their battery performance diminished considerably when the Note 4 was updated to Lollipop--the same version the Note 5 ships with? And jamerz, please correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you even say that the iPhone 6+ was at least as good as, if not a little better than your Note 4 concerning battery life? I only mention the latter because according to these tests, the Note 4 should be 2 hours better than the 6+. Same goes for the Nexus--I've yet to see anyone claim the Nexus 6 has better battery life than the iPhone 6+ yet this charts claims otherwise.

Again, not here to tout the iPhone 6+ but rather emphasis a bit of caution regarding these early benchmarks.
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I owned the note 4 for three weeks before I returned it and the battery life was nowhere near what is being claimed in this benchmark. It also didn't even come close to the battery life of my 6 plus. I was disappointed with the battery life on my note 4 out of all the Samsung devices I've owned it was the second worst in terms of battery life.

My rankings:

Note 3
S5
S4
Note 4
Note 1

So if the note 5/s6 edge plus is only equal to the note 4 I'd be very disappointed.
 
jamezr said:
Not on my Note 4.......I can have 5.5hrs SOT and have it take up less than 20% of total battery.
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You're phones are on Verizon, correct? I wonder if Verizon's strong cell signals help contribute to better battery performance that you see vs. many others here. IIRC, Skratch77 was also touting the insane battery life he was getting on his Galaxy S6 on Verizon when nobody else was coming close. We've seen weak cell signals be the culprit in many cases documented here.

Sorry...just thinking out loud. :D
 
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tbayrgs said:
You're phones are on Verizon, correct? I wonder if Verizon's strong cell signals help contribute to better battery performance that you see vs. many others here. IIRC, Skratch77 was also touting the insane battery life he was getting on his Galaxy S6 on Verizon when nobody else was coming close. We've seen week cell signals be the culprit in many cases documented here.

Sorry...just thinking out loud. :D
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the verizon version of the s6 is also the only S6 that uses a qualcomm modem rather than a samsung modem
 
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tbayrgs said:
You're phones are on Verizon, correct? I wonder if Verizon's strong cell signals help contribute to better battery performance that you see vs. many others here. IIRC, Skratch77 was also touting the insane battery life he was getting on his Galaxy S6 on Verizon when nobody else was coming close. We've seen week cell signals be the culprit in many cases documented here.

Sorry...just thinking out loud. :D
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That might a factor......I am not sure. But I did get pretty good battery life with the S6 too on Verizon.
I know your preaching caution around the battery life tests and get that Tbayrgs. Thanks I hear ya!
 
Michael Goff said:
Yes and no. If both phones use the same test, we can get an idea of which one lasts longer.
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Yeah but there are even 'caveats to that' ...

The biggest issue is here is that we don't know 'test conditions' and in many ways the test conditions can both benefit or hinder certain devices if they are tailored to the strengths of one technology over the other.

There are so many variables that the only way to get a clear result is in an open test - and one that tests a multitude of situations / scenarios - and then compiles all results together - not as in this case 1 - and 1 that hasn't been explained clearly (was auto brightness used, what brightness was it set to, which browser did they use, was power saving modes turned on etc.)

The closest we ever get to that (a realistic assessment of day to day usage / tasks) is actually a few weeks after launch when its been in the hands of a lot of consumers and we can gather the empirical data from their experiences.

It's too early to claim anything - only things at least look promising. But they are very far from definitive, there are too many discrepancies in that test to real world usage from some of the devices listed... otherwise based on that result my Z3 is owing me around 5-6 hours of SOT every charge !!!
 
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Sevanw said:
I disagree, it's quite the upgrade. Just to name a few. Improved Touchwiz, better camera front and back, improved fingerprint reader, new design and materials, faster storage, faster and more RAM, improved display. Not much of an upgrade? Really? What other phone is upgraded more than this from last year's model? I think a lot of people need to put away their hate and ignorance, take a breath, and put on their smart consumer hats and reevaluate. A smart consumer is the one that keeps the manufacturer in check and as a result, keeps the industry moving forward.
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Again, I have not researched it. TW? We will see about that as I jump to Nova Launcher Pro pretty much right off the bat with Samsung smartphones. Battery life I usually get by a whole day on most smartphones I have used. Processing is a big question mark, probably handling of Ram might differ but I doubt it as it as I will probably continue to see better msnagement with Motorola smartphones. And I do not really use the camera in smartphone.

No plan to move to the Note 5 till I try it out at BB or carriers then we will see.
 
AppleRobert said:
Again, I have not researched it. TW? We will see about that as I jump to Nova Launcher Pro pretty much right off the bat with Samsung smartphones. Battery life I usually get by a whole day on most smartphones I have used. Processing is a big question mark, probably handling of Ram might differ but I doubt it as it as I will probably continue to see better msnagement with Motorola smartphones. And I do not really use the camera in smartphone.

No plan to move to the Note 5 till I try it out at BB or carriers then we will see.
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Even if you do throw another launcher right off the bat, improving TW will affect you.
 
Battery life is a function of screen brightness setting, CPU and GPU cores utilized and reception. It doesn't matter so much how they test the phone as long as they keep the parameters the same so it can be relevant comparison to other devices.

Gsmarena battery test is pretty comprehensive but I'd like to see it improved even further where they standardize on WIFI and the following categories:

worse case - 3D gaming
normal - browser
better - movie watching
best case - idle

The person with 3h 23m SoT with 23% left on Note 5 also played Candy Crush so that's going to skew more towards worse case 3D gaming category. For comparison, I get 3h 57m of Sky Force 2014 3D gaming on Galaxy S6 while iPhone 6 Plus gets about 3h 45m according to Trusted Reviews.
 
AppleRobert said:
Probably so but I cannot help feeling that even while I have the Moto X 2014 and Nexus 6 that I would be better served with the Pure versus another Samsung. No bloat, no TW.
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There's just something special about stock vanilla Android OS, compared to Touchwiz IMO. Vanilla always feels lightweight, and just so smooth and fast.

And I mean, even when the phone is six months old, with tons of apps, and other things done on that phone over the several months. Stock Android keeps it going smooth.

Whereas Touchwiz phones after like six months can feel very heavy after a long time, or sort of like an old Windows 95 machine, where over time it just gets bogged down, then laggy, and funky feeling as the phone ages.
 
Tig Bitties said:
There's just something special about stock vanilla Android OS, compared to Touchwiz IMO. Vanilla always feels lightweight, and just so smooth and fast.

And I mean, even when the phone is six months old, with tons of apps, and other things done on that phone over the several months. Stock Android keeps it going smooth.

Whereas Touchwiz phones after like six months can feel very heavy after a long time, or sort of like an old Windows 95 machine, where over time it just gets bogged down, then laggy, and funky feeling as the phone ages.
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In the past....I would agree completely.

Touchwize on the s6 doesn't seem to suffer that problem....at least not on my s6 edge or my wife's s6.
 
BlueGoldAce said:
In the past....I would agree completely.

Touchwize on the s6 doesn't seem to suffer that problem....at least not on my s6 edge or my wife's s6.
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That's good to hear. My last Touchwiz phone was the S4 and I hated that OS. It became real laggy, and issues, and just sucked. My Wife also had an S4 at the same time, with same lag after less than a year, the phone was night and day worse than when it was brand new.
 
Tig Bitties said:
That's good to hear. My last Touchwiz phone was the S4 and I hated that OS. It became real laggy, and issues, and just sucked. My Wife also had an S4 at the same time, with same lag after less than a year, the phone was night and day worse than when it was brand new.
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I agree, touchwiz on my Note 3 was really bad after only 3 months, enough so that I got rid of it and my next 3 phones ran stock android (Moto X, Nexus 5, and HTC One M8 GPE). On my Note 4, it still lags from time to time, but it's bearable and hasn't gotten worse in the 8 months I've had it, and that's with over 200 apps. The S6, in the month I had it was great, super fast and almost no lag. I expect the same from the Note 5.
 
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