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epicrayban

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I love glass phones. To me, a sleek two piece glass screams premium more than metal. The frame work can be metal, but the back, I'm all for all glass. Feels great in hand. Looks good. And allows for more functionality. Just don't drop it!

Some of my most favorite designed phones are the iphone 4, Sony xperia z line, and the recent Samsung flagships.
 

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So AT&T is getting the S7 Active, and it comes with a massive 4000 mAh battery. :eek:
I can't see the Note getting less. Maybe 4200? :)
 
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I love glass phones. To me, a sleek two piece glass screams premium more than metal. The frame work can be metal, but the back, I'm all for all glass. Feels great in hand. Looks good. And allows for more functionality. Just don't drop it!

Some of my most favorite designed phones are the iphone 4, Sony xperia z line, and the recent Samsung flagships.

Well said. The way I think of it is, if you drop your phone hard enough where the glass will crack then that same phone in metal would be dented. Either way you are not a happy camper. I don't worry much about drop damage, I'm just very careful with my phones. I worry much more about scratches, dents, chips, etc with just day to day carrying. I like having a completely naked phone that I can toss into a gym bag, place on the gym floor, slide around on a desk or table, and just generally slightly abuse it and have it still be pristine.

On the same note, I wish Samsung would also color match the aluminum frame. I've been able to completely black out the front and back of my Note 5, but draw the line at trying to paint the frame. It would be slick with a black frame though.

Plus you can't downplay how awesome wireless charging is. Man it would take a lot for me to go back to wired charging. Ironically enough my car just got Android Auto so I may have to switch back to a plug anyhow, sigh.
 
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epicrayban

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Eughh. My OCD isn't happy. What's next, them moving to binary to make the numbers look bigger, and the phone look more powerful?

Bring on the Galaxy S1011!

Yeah, I don't care for this change either, but hey, marketing! :rolleyes:

I like that the Note is its own line and marches to its own drum. We don't need the Galaxy S series to match the number with the Note series' number. I think it's actually cooler that the Note line came after the S line. It grew out of the S line to form its own niche group. And now, it's regarded as a truly professional device. Others are following the phablet craze set by the Note series. The Note line should stand on its own merits. : shrug : Whatever, Samsung. In the long run, I guess it's nice to have that unity.

Plus there's the iPhone 7, though I would say it's a little sad that Samsung would change the Note name for that reason alone. But again, marketing!
 
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Yeah, I don't care for this change either, but hey, marketing! :rolleyes:

I like that the Note is its own line and marches to its own drum. We don't need the Galaxy S series to match the number with the Note series' number. I think it's actually cooler that the Note line came after the S line. It grew out of the S line to form its own niche group. And now, it's regarded as a truly professional device. Others are following the phablet craze set by the Note series. The Note line should stand on its own merits. : shrug : Whatever, Samsung. In the long run, I guess it's nice to have that unity.

Plus there's the iPhone 7, though I would say it's a little sad that Samsung would change the Note name for that reason alone. But again, marketing!
Just marketing. Two big companies pushing all their marketing muscle into two phones and to some 7 does sound better than 6 .... Plus remember Europe never even got to see the Note 5, surely they should just call it Samsung Note 2016, that way it's 2009 better than the any other 7 device :D
 
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MRU

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I've been saying that for ages. Logistically it didn't stand a chance of being launched with N unless the release date was October.

People seem to think these devices are built just a few days before they ship, with the software dumped 10 minutes before it was sealed in its box ...

The reality is these devices will be in production a good 8 weeks before they go on sale (meaning it's likely fully in production now) and the software will be pretty much done (of course bug updates can be pushed quickly post launch) ... there logically and logistically was never a chance Android N was going to be on the device if it was shipping in August.
 

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I've been saying that for ages. Logistically it didn't stand a chance of being launched with N unless the release date was October.

People seem to think these devices are built just a few days before they ship, with the software dumped 10 minutes before it was sealed in its box ...

The reality is these devices will be in production a good 8 weeks before they go on sale (meaning it's likely fully in production now) and the software will be pretty much done (of course bug updates can be pushed quickly post launch) ... there logically and logistically was never a chance Android N was going to be on the device if it was shipping in August.
I agree....the N7 will launch with MM. Android N won't even be officially released until after the N7 is announced. I doubt it will have N. Then why would Google let Samsung have the honor of releasing the first phone with N? They will let the new Nexus phones have that honor.
 
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There is no way it will launch with N. They better offer some good deals, because I'm still waiting for MM on my freakin Note 5, and if I'm going to be waiting until September 2017 for N then it's time to say goodbye to Samsung for good.
 

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There is no way it will launch with N. They better offer some good deals, because I'm still waiting for MM on my freakin Note 5, and if I'm going to be waiting until September 2017 for N then it's time to say goodbye to Samsung for good.
Your Note 5 is on AT&T right? But all the other carriers N5s have MM so this looks to be a AT&T thing tbh....not that Samsung doesn't need to get better at updates mind you. But your issue seems to be a carrier one.
 

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Your Note 5 is on AT&T right? But all the other carriers N5s have MM so this looks to be a AT&T thing tbh....not that Samsung doesn't need to get better at updates mind you. But your issue seems to be a carrier one.

I don't disagree at all, but it wasn't like Samsung was that fast with MM updates. Most of their phones were updated 2 or so months ago, give or take. I think MM was officially released August or Sept, so that's like 8 months to update, much too slow IMO. I also think Samsung has a lot of clout over the carriers and can push them to release faster, or they can simply take away carrier updates just like Apple has done. No, while it's not directly Samsung's fault it is indirectly largely their fault. Add to that them locking the bootloader down.

It's a simple solution, just offer a developer version like they used to do. I'd buy one in a second.
 
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I don't disagree at all, but it wasn't like Samsung was that fast with MM updates. Most of their phones were updated 2 or so months ago, give or take. I think MM was officially released August or Sept, so that's like 8 months to update, much too slow IMO. I also think Samsung has a lot of clout over the carriers and can push them to release faster, or they can simply take away carrier updates just like Apple has done. No, while it's not directly Samsung's fault it is indirectly largely their fault. Add to that them locking the bootloader down.

It's a simple solution, just offer a developer version like they used to do. I'd buy one in a second.
I totally agree with you......Samsung should do a better job with updates! I wish they would use their clout as the biggest Android OEM and make the carriers release updates faster too.

I am so with you on the dv edition phones! I have said it many times over and over. I wish we could get a dev edition phone for all phones.
 
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Iris scanner for Note 7? How credible is this leak screenshot... who knows.

Galaxy Note 7 iris scanner sounding like a real possibility, as screenshot leaks

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...-real-possibility-as-screenshot-leaks_id81947

That's awesome, I wonder if it will work like Windows Hello on my Surface Pro 4. Windows Hello is pretty awesome, would love to have that on a phone. I think Windows Hello is more a dual camera that looks at a 3 dimensional face recognition though, versus an iris scanner. Although I've read some conflicting info that Windows Hello could do iris detection with the right camera.
 

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That's awesome, I wonder if it will work like Windows Hello on my Surface Pro 4.

The difference is with a tablet or laptop is usually in a fixed position. You approach it. It's better positioned to use that technology.

A phone however, you first have to take out of your pocket or pick up. Then raise it to your eyeline. Activate the device to initiate iris scan. All of which takes far longer than a fingerprint scanner does to read your finger.

And if your wearing sun glasses - forget it.

It's a technology that is great in the right situation . That situation however is NOT a smartphone.

As the lumia 950 & 950 XL which had it are testament to. It's accuracy rate and practicality of use in day to day usage on a smartphone made it a far less suitable unlocking procedure.

It's a feature that will get about as much use as the heart rate sensor does on Samsung phones now .... You'll forget it's even there.
 
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epicrayban

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The difference is with a tablet or laptop is usually in a fixed position. You approach it. It's better positioned to use that technology.

A phone however, you first have to take out of your pocket or pick up. Then raise it to your eyeline. Activate the device to initiate iris scan. All of which takes far longer than a fingerprint scanner does to read your finger.

And if your wearing sun glasses - forget it.

It's a technology that is great in the right situation . That situation however is NOT a smartphone.

As the lumia 950 & 950 XL which had it are testament to. It's accuracy rate and practicality of use in day to day usage on a smartphone made it a far less suitable unlocking procedure.

It's a feature that will get about as much use as the heart rate sensor does on Samsung phones now .... You'll forget it's even there.

I'd prefer finger print too
 

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The difference is with a tablet or laptop is usually in a fixed position. You approach it. It's better positioned to use that technology.

A phone however, you first have to take out of your pocket or pick up. Then raise it to your eyeline. Activate the device to initiate iris scan. All of which takes far longer than a fingerprint scanner does to read your finger.

And if your wearing sun glasses - forget it.

It's a technology that is great in the right situation . That situation however is NOT a smartphone.

As the lumia 950 & 950 XL which had it are testament to. It's accuracy rate and practicality of use in day to day usage on a smartphone made it a far less suitable unlocking procedure.

It's a feature that will get about as much use as the heart rate sensor does on Samsung phones now .... You'll forget it's even there.
At first glance this seems like a bit gimmicky to me. I prefer the FP scanner to unlock my phones. I mean I have to pick it up anyway so why not use the finger or thumb to unlock it then. That is unless they have the iris scanner perfected (big if) and it works from different angles. It might be helpful to glance at my phone and have the screen unlocked.
But...... probably be something I will turn off.....
 
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The only way I can see it being any helpful is as a 2 factor authentication, not something you use all the time, but in instances where you want something really secure then you'd use both your finger print and iris scan.
 

spinedoc77

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The difference is with a tablet or laptop is usually in a fixed position. You approach it. It's better positioned to use that technology.

A phone however, you first have to take out of your pocket or pick up. Then raise it to your eyeline. Activate the device to initiate iris scan. All of which takes far longer than a fingerprint scanner does to read your finger.

And if your wearing sun glasses - forget it.

It's a technology that is great in the right situation . That situation however is NOT a smartphone.

As the lumia 950 & 950 XL which had it are testament to. It's accuracy rate and practicality of use in day to day usage on a smartphone made it a far less suitable unlocking procedure.

It's a feature that will get about as much use as the heart rate sensor does on Samsung phones now .... You'll forget it's even there.

Hmm, my surface pro 4 is rarely in a fixed position. When I turn it on I'm up and about, sometimes walking, often hanging upside down on my gravity boots, windows hello works surprisingly well. For those times when it doesn't work well, it just defaults to your secondary security, which is a PIN, password or pattern. But I don't disagree with you, sometimes a fingerprint sensor makes more sense. Personally I think the fp sensor should be on the power button, I think some smartphone did this recently but I can't recall which brand. Better yet have a fp sensor AND an iris camera.

But once again I don't disagree. It would be something cool that they can add, but not necessarily as the primary mode of unlocking. And yeah, sunglasses would not be a good thing.
 

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Anything would be better than the current Samsung fingerprint sensor.

Am I the only one who has to re register my prints every month to get my device to read it successfully.

The facial recognition on the Surface Pro 4 is excellent.
 
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