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BlueGoldAce said:
True.

Between third party launchers, themes, Google play store...you can make the phone look and function how you want.

Hell, you can even disable system apps with package disabler. I dont find that necessary anymore,.but its an option.
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Agreed.

The idea of having the Note7 is having a Android device on top of the many features that Samsung has packed into it. Android is all about customization. That's one of the aspects of the Note7... Having a stylus along with all this flexibility to alter it however a user want.

But at this point.. it's really not even about Android and the customization, heck.. it's about the hardware.. particulary the screen and design. It's just top notch...
 
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Ludatyk said:
Agreed.

The idea of having the Note7 is having a Android device on top of the many features that Samsung has packed into it. Android is all about customization. That's one of the aspects of the Note7... Having a stylus along with all this flexibility to alter it however a user want.

But at this point.. it's really not even about Android and the customization, heck.. it's about the hardware.. particulary the screen and design. It's just top notch...
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I couldn't agree more. The screen is superlative, The design is the best design I've seen for a large screen phone. It's the first large screen phone my wife has actually been willing to own, and she swears it doesn't feel much bigger than her old S7. The quick launch camera shortcut and the quality of the camera is the best in the industry, and something that I miss instantly when I use another phone. I actually find the iris scanner to be really handy, since I work in a biology lab, and constantly have gloves on.

Secondly, on an unrelated note, my notes seven and my father's note 7 were acting really weird and functioning poorly. We both used Samsung smart switch to transfer content. I don't know if that was the cause, but a factory reset fix the problem. About a day or so after the factory reset, when the phone settled in, we are both now getting great battery life and zero signs of lag.
 
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This may seem weird but when I had android I COULD NOT for the life of me stay settled.
I always had to change themes, launchers, etc etc. Wasting my time to be honest.

So IOS has pacified me in a sense.
 
Zaft said:
Its looking like apple is ditching the home button, samsung should as well.
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Yup! I've always wanted both to. I'm a fan of capacitive or even on screen buttons. So much more dynamic.

Samsung still has to keep double tap to quick launch the camera, one of the best and most useful features. I don't launch the camera any other way.
 
Wow this thread reads more like a funeral than a celebration. Sad too. Samsung is the greatest foundry out there. No reason my they shouldn't have the best SOC, best screen and fastest memory channels they create in their flagship. There should be no question to the speed. No tweaks or optimizations needed out of the box. And if they do (I haven't even really read reviews), then I am guessing it is the same old story of touchwiz.
 
epicrayban said:
Yup! I've always wanted both to. I'm a fan of capacitive or even on screen buttons. So much more dynamic.

Samsung still has to keep double tap to quick launch the camera, one of the best and most useful features. I don't launch the camera any other way.
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I have tried that double tap for camera and its awesome, so quick.
Wish apple had something like that and always on display.

The haptic engine on iPhone is perfect as a feedback mechanism.
 
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Surf Donkey said:
Wow this thread reads more like a funeral than a celebration. Sad too. Samsung is the greatest foundry out there. No reason my they shouldn't have the best SOC, best screen and fastest memory channels they create in their flagship. There should be no question to the speed. No tweaks or optimizations needed out of the box. And if they do (I haven't even really read reviews), then I am guessing it is the same old story of touchwiz.
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The use of SD 820 in the Note 7 is insane. I have the 5 and the 7 and have run into a number of situations where the 5's Exynos SoC appears to be faster. I'm really happy with everything about the 7 except for its CPU performance, and it's bothering me enough that I'm learning towards returning it and keeping the 5 for another year. It's a strange situation because some workloads seem to do better on the 820 (it does have much better single core performance supposedly), but overall it's a disappointment.

On the software end I don't think Touchwiz itself (the launcher) is actually the issue, so much as whatever other under the hood changes Samsung is making to the Android ROM itself. Replacing the Touchwiz launcher with another option is not enough to undo whatever Samsung does to Android. I don't know if they're making battery optimizations that are hurting performance, or they just don't know how to configure the CPU governor correctly, but lots of people are saying that the 820 is running slower on Samsung's hardware than it does on other devices.
 
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Atomic Walrus said:
The use of SD 820 in the Note 7 is insane. I have the 5 and the 7 and have run into a number of situations where the 5's Exynos SoC appears to be faster. I'm really happy with everything about the 7 except for its CPU performance, and it's bothering me enough that I'm learning towards returning it and keeping the 5 for another year. It's a strange situation because some workloads seem to do better on the 820 (it does have much better single core performance supposedly), but overall it's a disappointment.

On the software end I don't think Touchwiz itself (the launcher) is actually the issue, so much as whatever other under the hood changes Samsung is making to the Android ROM itself. Replacing the Touchwiz launcher with another option is not enough to undo whatever Samsung does to Android. I don't know if they're making battery optimizations that are hurting performance, or they just don't know how to configure the CPU governor correctly, but lots of people are saying that the 820 is running slower on Samsung's hardware than it does on other devices.
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Ah that explains it. Using the 820 here in the states again. You are right, many tests have shown they just simply don't care to optimize for it vs their Exynos.

And they still didn't bump up to V-NAND for the Note. Well yeah, they are going to get bested by NVMe until they do something about that. Crazy..... they make the better storage themselves!!

I thought something was up. Even the bloated Touchwiz would have a chance with the proper hardware. What a slap in the face to everyone who paid almost a grand for this phone. Resale value is going drop like a rock on this thing quickly.
 
Zaft said:
Wonder why Samsung switched back..
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At first guess when my think it would be supply constraints, but Samsung has shown they can meet the demand for products like the iPhone, so I do not think Samsung is limited by manufacturability. More likely it has to do with the superior modem that is present on the snapdragon chips, allowing the snapdragon variance to be compatible with more bands. The US carriers you such Varian bands, but it may be necessary so that they can design one model that is compatible across the US.
 
bgro said:
Did you give nova launcher a try? Still a lot of setup to do to make the device your own but so much better than TouchWiz
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Ludatyk said:
Wait a min..

You don't necessarily have to deal with TouchWiz if you don't have to. That's the idea of having plenty of launchers to choose from. Just maybe you were doomed from the start.. having one foot out the door not fully committing to the Note7.

Especially being a longtime iPhone user it'll be awhile to adjust.
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FWIW, touchwiz is way more than a launcher or a look for Samsung phones. It's the underlying framework. It's what they use to build upon Android... but it's also the bits of Samsung phones that give them the tendency to lag, hiccup, and have RAM management issues. Remove touchwiz (the framework, not the launcher) and most phones (i.e. Nexus phones) run 100% better (obviously not possible on a Samsung phone but you get what I'm saying). Yes, touchwiz has been toned down a lot but it still is the main reason not all people can put up with Samsung phones.

So just saying... use another launcher! is not enough to get rid of touchwiz because touchwiz isn't just a launcher.
 
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Zaft said:
Wonder why Samsung switched back..
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$$. They passed on the 810 because it was a overheating disaster. So they paid the licensing fees to Qualcomm on the Note 5 for CDMA modems to include it with the Exynos. But it is easier and cheaper overall to just go with the Snapdragon for the US customers who need CDMA. But I am reading Canada got the Snapdragon as well this year? Perhaps it is just a case of availability as well.

The 820 is a great chip... but it is better in other phones where they actually optimize for it.
 
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co.ag.2005 said:
FWIW, touchwiz is way more than a launcher or a look for Samsung phones. It's the underlying framework. It's what they use to build upon Android... but it's also the bits of Samsung phones that give them a tendency to lag, hiccup, and have RAM management issues. Remove touchwiz (the framework, not the launcher) and most phones (i.e. Nexus phones) run 100% better (obviously not possible on a Samsung phone but you get what I'm saying). Yes, touchwiz has been toned down a lot but it still is the main reason not all people can put up with Samsung phones.

So just saying... use another launcher! is not enough to get rid of touchwiz because touchwiz isn't just a launcher.
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Good info. I didn't know that. Although it makes sense given some of the TouchWiz features still work with other launchers
 
Zaft said:
This may seem weird but when I had android I COULD NOT for the life of me stay settled.
I always had to change themes, launchers, etc etc. Wasting my time to be honest.

So IOS has pacified me in a sense.
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Same here plus spending hours reconfiguring the phone after a custom ROM etc. It was one of the drivers for me moving to Apple.
 
martint235 said:
Same here plus spending hours reconfiguring the phone after a custom ROM etc. It was one of the drivers for me moving to Apple.
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I remember a while back when I bricked my Droid x trying to install a rom.
Verizon store thankfully had no idea so they replaced it for free.
 
BlueGoldAce said:
I don't think you will find people complaining and making fun of the 6s plus battery life in this section of the form. The 6s plus gets great battery life. This is largely due to the nature of the software, which is much more power conservative. As such it comes with limitations, such as Spotify can automatically download songs in the background without being opened in the foreground or at least recently. Another issue I always had was with GPS tracking running apps. They had a tendency to close down in the middle of my run. But these are two particular instances, and the overall experience of iOS can still be very good
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My old 6s+ got much better battery life than the Note 5. I haven't had the Note 7 long enough to really see how it is, but so far it's a bit worse than the Note 5. I'm hoping it just needs to be broken in. On Android I've found that runaway apps can frequently eat up the battery.
[doublepost=1472136185][/doublepost]What I don't understand is the iPhone users saying Android phones are too hard to set up, they had to customize the theme, etc. Really? Just use it as is out of the box, exactly the same as your iPhone. Everything is already set up and if you do not want to customize then you don't need to. I'd MUCH rather have the choice to customize my phone versus having the same exact phone as the guy next to me and everyone else, way too boring for me. But if someone wants boring, that's available out of the box.
 
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