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If that's your main purpose... get a iPhone.

iMessage on iOS 10 is pretty cool... with all these message apps coming out it would be nice to experience them with friends/family.

my boss bought a 6S not so long ago, he was saying that he start his day with a full phone and most of the time recharge during the day. So I guess this answer it for me as I get 30-40h out of my Note 4, with similar use.

If the recall takes more time I hope to see some reviews of the Google Pixel/Pixel XL. Seems like I will stay with Android this year.
 
Thanks. Yeah seems to be for Canada only. But it's a positive step indeed. Was your device bought from a private seller, foreign importer or through a carrier there in Canada ?

Yeah there are no real bonus incentives here like they have in the USA with the 256gb card, BOGOF deals and such. There was only a limited 250 free gear VR's shared between the two main carriers here for very early pre-orders. Even in a small country that number of allocated VR devices is a tiny amount.

My Note 7 was purchased at the mall in a Samsung experience store in Canada.
 
And the endless repeating there is a battery issue with no mention that these phones will be replaced just like any other product that has a recall is very one sided. But no, let's just keep repeating the same thing over and over again. With no mention of the issue being in progress to be resolved. There is a massive difference in the mood in this thread compared to what you read from most of the tech community in their reviews like Erica Griffin's. When the only picture you paint is one of doom, yeah I would call that doom mongering. Then you got people like Lisa, John, Flossy and many others addressing the issue just like myself. Which is, I'm keeping mine and waiting for the replacement, because it's still one of the best phones. Simple.
And I got rid of mine and am waiting for the fixed replacement because I also loved my Note 7. My husband is also waiting for his Note 7 replacement. I am having a bit of trouble with my interim S7 so that might be going back this week. If it jeopardizes my ability to get my Note7 to return the S7, I'll hang onto it.

Meanwhile I'm joining a perfectly legitimate measured discussion wondering how this will affect Samsung going forward. My own post acknowledged the excellent points @Oohara made about the opportunities Samsung has to come out of this in a better position going forward. I merely pointed out some of the issues they would need to tackle and overcome along the way.

It's not doom and gloom, it is simple discussion. People are making different points from different perspectives with basically the same goal in mind: seeing Samsung emerge from this in a good position to bring strong products to the market so that Apple isn't running unopposed--which would be bad for customers. I think this competiton between them was spurring Samung in particular to innovation. The iris scanner was brilliant and it worked surprisingly well for a new feature.

It is not doom and gloom to acknowledge the difficulties and challenges Samsung is facing. This is an unprecedented situation in the smart phone industry. Because phones are sold through carriers, stores and individuals, there is a unique level of difficulty in executing a smooth recall and replacement program. Read all the various posts across the web about the difficulties customers have faced in trying to return their Note 7s. This is not anything like anything we've seen in the auto industry. There is no real good analogue to compare this situation to.
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I was so set on the note 7 I fancied a change from ios im not fussed about eco systems, I just like the most hitech phone when my contract is up.

Due to not even knowing when they will come back iphone 7 plus it was. Im not that excited about it but still is a great phone. Its a shame and such a big **** up by samsung.
I empathize. I've admired Note phones since around Note 4. I wanted to try one out for ages but a mix of not being able to financially and my husband constantly warning me away from Android kept me away. And I also felt they had some growing up to do in the way they conducted themselves in terms of their rather immature approach to advertising and competing against Apple in kind of a snarky schoolkid way.

But I kind of kept an eye on them. Finally I was hearing so many good things about Android on Samsung Galaxy flagships. It was like they were emerging from an awkward adolescent phase and finally finding their identity. It was not just about copying Apple or showing up Apple anymore but bringing this beautiful device to the market. Their advertising reflected what they wanted the Note 7 to do for me. You could tell some pride went into the design and execution. And my own personal circumstances finally aligned that it made sense for me to give this a go. Doh! Not the introduction to Samsung and Android I was hoping for. To their credit, the device was so beautiful and fun that it did managed to make a good and positive impression the short time that I had it. Enough that I'm willing to be magnanimous about this mess.

You said it so well. It's a shame and a real mess up. I think they've tried very hard to do this right. But they did make another blunder in not working with CPSC in the US first. I don't quite know the details of how they've handled returns in the other countries. There are so many bureaucracies to coordinate with. The carriers, the governments, individual customers, lawyers. It has got to be complicated and confusing for a large corporation that was not known to be fast on its feet dealing with customer service issues to begin with and was apparently trying to turn that part of their business around, too.

I think they also failed to convey the urgency of the situation soon enough. I look back over the initial communications I got from them and AT&T and it doesn't really spell out the potential danger at all. It's rather easy wording to shrug off. And many did.
 
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There are some unknowns that has caused me to rethink purchasing a Note 7. I really was looking forward to it after dropping my Nexus 6P and cracking the screen slightly. But, how long will it be before I can get one, with all of the bad PR and airlines bans how will I prove , and how often, I have a post recall phone, and lastly what will resale be like next year? Those questions mostly likely will keep me on my 6S plus for another year. No Pixel phone for me.
 
I used this web site:
https://canadanote7exchange.expertinquiry.com/

It probably is only for Canada now but I'm sure more countries will be available once Samsung makes more Note 7 devices.

I feel safe about my battery because the phone says manufactured in China (I think it is illegal to use batteries from outside china for things manufactured in China) but I'm still exchanging it cause it's free and I don't have to drive anywhere, Samsung is mailing it to me. I'm also keeping the extra s-pen and headphones and charger ;) I read people in USA get $25 credit and people in India get free VR but people in Canada get squat, that's why I'm keeping the accessories.

I also got my preorder bonus gift (Bluetooth speaker) yesterday.

Yup same site I used, even posted the screenshot of correspondence regarding my exchange. I think shipping date are 15th for early sign ups and the 19th for the second group.
 
My Note 7 was purchased at the mall in a Samsung experience store in Canada.
Yeah, see that's very different from the experience (circumstance of purchase) I gave examples about earlier from those that have bought devices privately from owners who upgraded their contract phones but then sold them on the likes of swappa or craigslist or from outside of the country in which they reside.

It's those users who bought from unconventional sources like that which are posting they are having or finding difficulty returning their devices when they contact Samsung.

Many have been told in those instances to return the device to the original purchasee if it was a private sale of an unwanted subsidised contract phone (and the original owner return it to their original carrier of purchase for replacement process), or if they bought outside of the country of residence, such as the imported international exynos model from third party sellers online to return to them to those import sellers, which has led to an impasse for some users as those options are impractical or unworkable.

Hopefully Samsung start to extend to (allowing those users who bought devices as a I highlight) returning more easily by accepting them in a similar fashion to your experience buying from a Samsung experience store in a mall directly and returning via an online form.
 
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Yeah, see that's very different from the experience (circumstance of purchase) I gave examples about earlier from those that have bought devices privately from owners who upgraded their contract phones but then sold them on the likes of swappa or craigslist or from outside of the country in which they reside.

It's those users who bought from unconventional sources like that which are posting they are having or finding difficulty returning their devices when they contact Samsung.

Many have been told in those instances to return the device to the original purchasee if it was a private sale of an unwanted subsidised contract phone (and the original owner return it to their original carrier of purchase for replacement process), or if they bought outside of the country of residence, such as the imported international exynos model from third party sellers online to return to them to those import sellers, which has led to an impasse for some users as those options are impractical or unworkable.

Hopefully Samsung start to extend to (allowing those users who bought devices as a I highlight) returning more easily by accepting them in a similar fashion to your experience buying from a Samsung experience store in a mall directly and returning via an online form.


It didn't matter where I bought it from. The online form didn't ask where I bought it from or proof of purchase. The only requirement for the site I used I'm assuming is you live in Canada. Samsung can't supply that many that fast. Everyone wants to be first in line but not everyone can be. Other people in other countries just have to wait.

People that want the jet black iPhone 7+ have to wait past November and Apple didn't even have a recall or supply problem. Getting mad that Samsung can't replace everyone's phone right away is absurd.
 
It didn't matter where I bought it from. The online form didn't ask where I bought it from or proof of purchase. The only requirement for the site I used I'm assuming is you live in Canada. Samsung can't supply that many that fast. Everyone wants to be first in line but not everyone can be. Other people in other countries just have to wait.

People that want the jet black iPhone 7+ have to wait past November and Apple didn't even have a recall or supply problem. Getting mad that Samsung can't replace everyone's phone right away is absurd.

It's not that Samsung can't replace every phone right away its that the process can be fragmented. That there's different hoops to jump through depending on how you purchased it. There's posts from users talking about this. A general criticism of Samsung is after sales support. So this is a factor when it's about a hazardous situation involving their phones catching fire.

People having to wait for a new release of the top selling flagship phone is different than having to wait for an actual safe replacement of a phone you've owned already. And complaints are valid because Samsung shouldn't have released these phones in the first place.
 
None the less this is going to leave a big dent on Samsung and its been all over the media and everyones grandma knows about it. Everyone is going to think twice about purchasing a Samsung now. Some people may even see it as an android issue.
I am also wondering if this is why some people had some lag issues with the phone possibly overheating? I remember at the beginning of these threads people were complaining simple tasks were lagging.
 
CPW are giving Samsung Galaxy S6s as "loaner phones" until the replacement Note 7 handsets are in stock.

Think I'll pop in and exchange at the weekend for piece of mind.
 
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It didn't matter where I bought it from. The online form didn't ask where I bought it from or proof of purchase.

It doesnt need to ask explicitly, because the IMEI would tell them what they need to know about where it comes from (samsung/carrier/region) and they can validate regional warranty based on that.
 
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"The Galaxy Note 7 might have problems with exploding, but from a visual design perspective, Samsung has definitely pulled ahead this generation."

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So that's how even the supposed "iVerge" are choosing to depict the Note 7 at the moment. What's being emphasised here isn't how limbs are being torn off infants by the evil Note and its lethal battery - that part is in fact rather mentioned just in passing, kind of as an aside. Instead they're putting the Note 7 in the spotlight as the device that makes the new iPhone look boring and dated. And this on prime time in their iPhone 7 review, with ca 1 million views after 24 hours, probably their most high profile production of the entire year.

So, is the Note line doomed? Or will this crisis eventually blow over, and the game changing design of the Note 7 prevail? Of course one review clip on Youtube isn't going to change reality as we know it, but perhaps it could be a sign of where things might be headed. You guys be the judge.
 
"The Galaxy Note 7 might have problems with exploding, but from a visual design perspective, Samsung has definitely pulled ahead this generation."

Screen_Shot_2016_09_15_at_10_29_38.png


So that's how even the supposed "iVerge" are choosing to depict the Note 7 at the moment. What's being emphasised here isn't how limbs are being torn off infants by the evil Note and its lethal battery - that part is in fact rather mentioned just in passing, kind of as an aside. Instead they're putting the Note 7 in the spotlight as the device that makes the new iPhone look boring and dated. And this on prime time in their iPhone 7 review, with ca 1 million views after 24 hours, probably their most high profile production of the entire year.

So, is the Note line doomed? Or will this crisis eventually blow over, and the game changing design of the Note 7 prevail? Of course one review clip on Youtube isn't going to change reality as we know it, but perhaps it could be a sign of where things might be headed. You guys be the judge.

Yes, it's a sign of things to come but I think you're misreading the tea leaves. Causally mentioning that the phone explodes is precisely what Samsung wants to avoid.
 
And now reports are coming out that people are still using their Note 7 at the exact same rate despite all these "explosions." Bingo! Just like I said, people simply don't give a F. When the facts show that consumers continue to buy products that are known to have "killed" people as a result of a defect, it's not hard to conclude people will feel the same way with a phone. Yeah, there won't be any rebranding of this incredible near perfect device. When the average user puts this gorgeous device next to every other boring device, the choice is to obvious. In fact, I say Samsung doubles down on the brand come the Note 8.
 
Dude seriously, are you a Samsung pr person? If I was the type to pay full price for a flagship the Note 7(use a Note 5 now)would be it but man come on, you come off as a pr person or a huge apologist/fanboy.
 
Dude seriously, are you a Samsung pr person? If I was the type to pay full price for a flagship the Note 7(use a Note 5 now)would be it but man come on, you come off as a pr person or a huge apologist/fanboy.

Can it be that the person simply enjoys the Note7?

There is so many negative press and tons of speculation that Note7 is done for. Can that person dismiss all that and be more positive in this situation?

Why does that person have to go with the narrative that Samsung is doomed? I understand that perhaps it can come off as being a apologist. But I'd rather be positive in this situation than negative.
 
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He language in posts is like an Apple reveal..magical, beautiful ect. And where did I say he has to go with that narrative of doom, I posted that because of all the pr like speak I have seen on the forum from him, not just because of this post
 
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And now reports are coming out that people are still using their Note 7 at the exact same rate despite all these "explosions." Bingo! Just like I said, people simply don't give a F. When the facts show that consumers continue to buy products that are known to have "killed" people as a result of a defect, it's not hard to conclude people will feel the same way with a phone. Yeah, there won't be any rebranding of this incredible near perfect device. When the average user puts this gorgeous device next to every other boring device, the choice is to obvious. In fact, I say Samsung doubles down on the brand come the Note 8.
Samsung is releasing an update that will limit a full charge to 60% of the battery now which will eventually force owners to swap them out.
 
"The Galaxy Note 7 might have problems with exploding, but from a visual design perspective, Samsung has definitely pulled ahead this generation."

Screen_Shot_2016_09_15_at_10_29_38.png


So that's how even the supposed "iVerge" are choosing to depict the Note 7 at the moment. What's being emphasised here isn't how limbs are being torn off infants by the evil Note and its lethal battery - that part is in fact rather mentioned just in passing, kind of as an aside. Instead they're putting the Note 7 in the spotlight as the device that makes the new iPhone look boring and dated. And this on prime time in their iPhone 7 review, with ca 1 million views after 24 hours, probably their most high profile production of the entire year.

So, is the Note line doomed? Or will this crisis eventually blow over, and the game changing design of the Note 7 prevail? Of course one review clip on Youtube isn't going to change reality as we know it, but perhaps it could be a sign of where things might be headed. You guys be the judge.
Funny you say the iPhone is dated when it's faster, better camera, better colors on screen, more storage internally, and other stuff that the the note doesn't have. Actually the note other than the screen looks just like the note 5.
 
He language in posts is like an Apple reveal..magical, beautiful ect. And where did I say he has to go with that narrative of doom, I posted that because of all the pr like speak I have seen on the forum from him, not just because of this post

Stop being so negative. I enjoy this phone, why is ok for everyone only talk about the negative press only. This thread is about the Note 7 and actually owning and using one. The more this thread becomes shlt show discussing the recall, the more it gets derailed from the original purpose. Discussing this recall should be a seperate thread.
 
I agree that this thread or any Smasung thread is derailed by trolls and people who have no interest in Samsung phones and you are probably right about their needing to be a thread just for the recall.
 
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Can it be that the person simply enjoys the Note7?

There is so many negative press and tons of speculation that Note7 is done for. Can that person dismiss all that and be more positive in this situation?

Why does that person have to go with the narrative that Samsung is doomed? I understand that perhaps it can come off as being a apologist. But I'd rather be positive in this situation than negative.

The point isn't liking the device or not. I thought it had a swath of great stuff, and while it seemed slower I definitely preferred the look of the new TW. Iris scanner was no joke. None of that is the point. Most of us have been discussing the impact of this global recall, which is amazing. It's going to cost Samsung billions. Their marketing is going to take a huge hit. None of that speaks to whether or not the device is good, bad, indifferent. Yet any posts discussing that are met with this weird PR offensive insisting the phone is great, people love it, etc. Okay. The phone is great...and it has been recalled, you can't buy it anywhere, people haven't even gotten replacement units yet, and every headline associated with it uses words "Explode", "exploding", "catches fire."

The phone being great and the brand being damaged beyond repair can be mutually exclusive subjects.

Edit - I also wanted to add that it's kinda impossible to discuss the device purely as a device at this time as Samsung's position on it is that if you own one, you need to immediately POWER IT DOWN AND BRING IT BACK.
 
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The point isn't liking the device or not. I thought it had a swath of great stuff, and while it seemed slower I definitely preferred the look of the new TW. Iris scanner was no joke. None of that is the point. Most of us have been discussing the impact of this global recall, which is amazing. It's going to cost Samsung billions. Their marketing is going to take a huge hit. None of that speaks to whether or not the device is good, bad, indifferent. Yet any posts discussing that are met with this weird PR offensive insisting the phone is great, people love it, etc. Okay. The phone is great...and it has been recalled, you can't buy it anywhere, people haven't even gotten replacement units yet, and every headline associated with it uses words "Explode", "exploding", "catches fire."

The phone being great and the brand being damaged beyond repair can be mutually exclusive subjects.

Exactly. No one has disputed that it isn't a great phone. Many of us would love to discuss how great it is to use, but we never got the opportunity because it was pulled on launch day for may of us who had ordered. How can many of us discuss using the device if Samsung never gave us the opportunity to do so ?


These are the actual latest news headline referenced articles about how people are still using the device.

Everyone is still using their Galaxy Note 7 as Samsung fumbles its global recall
http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/15/12926308/galaxy-note-7-recall-samsung-fumbled-usage

How Samsung Botched Its Galaxy Note 7 Recall
http://www.wsj.com/articles/samsungs-management-of-recall-wounds-companys-image-1473928872

So what are actually critical articles about Samsung's handling of the recall - have been twisted into suiting a different narrative.
 
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The point isn't liking the device or not. I thought it had a swath of great stuff, and while it seemed slower I definitely preferred the look of the new TW. Iris scanner was no joke. None of that is the point. Most of us have been discussing the impact of this global recall, which is amazing. It's going to cost Samsung billions. Their marketing is going to take a huge hit. None of that speaks to whether or not the device is good, bad, indifferent. Yet any posts discussing that are met with this weird PR offensive insisting the phone is great, people love it, etc. Okay. The phone is great...and it has been recalled, you can't buy it anywhere, people haven't even gotten replacement units yet, and every headline associated with it uses words "Explode", "exploding", "catches fire."

The phone being great and the brand being damaged beyond repair can be mutually exclusive subjects.

Edit - I also wanted to add that it's kinda impossible to discuss the device purely as a device at this time as Samsung's position on it is that if you own one, you need to immediately POWER IT DOWN AND BRING IT BACK.

This thread needs to stop getting derailed with recall news and all the speculation surrounding it. It's a completely different topic that should have it's own thread. This thread is for people who actually have/had/looking to buy the phone. People discussing the use of the phone, people asking questions about the functionality of the phone. Who wants to sift through pages and pages of posts looking for the experience of using this phone? Anything else is just trolling or throwing mud.
 
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This battery saga has showed me how fragile and dangerous these lithium ion batteries are. I am amazed how simply stabbing a battery or merely unwrapping causes it to catch fire/explode with great force. I have many spare old samsung batteries lying around my house and previous viewed them as inert bits of junk. Have now disposed of them.

I did the same thing. I had some spare Samsung batteries from my old Samsung Blackjack just sitting in an "unused electronics junk" box. I got rid of the batteries (not because they were Samsung but like you said, just because LiIon itself).
 
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