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I can't believe how big this news is. Going to work in the morning and they had an interview on the radio about the Note 7 blowing up. Then coincidentally on the way home listening to On point on NPR they had an entire show devoted to lithium ion batteries and their dangers, complete with experts, professors, etc. I do feel guilty after hearing about the environmental and health issues surrounding things like cobalt mining and graphite processing.
This phone (note 7 snapdragon version) is too awesome.
Why didn't you return it?
Poor choice of words on my part... removed and my apologies for any offense taken.
I still think it's not wise to continue to keep, much less use a Note 7. Unless someone is an absolute hermit that never comes in contact with other people, he or she is endangering them to some degree. IIRC, some of the most recent incidents involved phones that weren't charging or even powered on. Why take the chance?
Best case, you're gonna have a very expensive paper weight once Samsung pushes out an update to brick your phone, worst case...well, that should be obvious. Here's hoping it's only the former.
I still think it's not wise to continue to keep, much less use a Note 7. Unless someone is an absolute hermit that never comes in contact with other people, he or she is endangering them to some degree. IIRC, some of the most recent incidents involved phones that weren't charging or even powered on. Why take the chance?
Best case, you're gonna have a very expensive paper weight once Samsung pushes out an update to brick your phone, worst case...well, that should be obvious. Here's hoping it's only the former.
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No need to be junevile. It's his property as long as he doesn't involve others. It's not any worse than people drinking. If anything it might become a collector's item like the vette.
Not sure what's the point in keeping it
Even if you turn it off and keep it as a collectors item it WILL catch fire at some point in its life.
Its a federal crime to bring it on an airplane
Its not going to get Android Nougat or any security fixes
The battery will be capped at 60% by Samsung .
Just not worth the risk.Besides the S8 is just a couple of months away and will be better than this Note anyway
I agree, it's a stupid risk to take after such a serious recall. I hope Samsung remotely deactivate any that are not returned and set a date deadline for refunds.
Why don't you ask the owner but it's none of your business anyway since it's his property and if his usage doesn't involve anyone.
Any lithium battery phone can experience a failure in its lifetime.
If he intended to keep it why would he risk getting it confiscated by airport scanners?
The vette never got upgrades beyond leaving the factory but it's still a classic collectible.
There are much worse issues like intoxication so what are you doing about it instead of falling for media hysteria?
I agree, it's not going to get any updates, it isn't going to get any kind of 3rd party support (think cases), if something were to happen you won't be able to get it repaired (cracked screen?), there won't be any warrantee support, you won't be able to fly, won't be able to mail it, you'll have a hard time reselling it (though you may get lucky and come across someone who views it as a collectors item and pay big bucks for it), and of course there that little thing that you have to be careful with how you use/charge/store it or else it could go up in flames, at which point insurance won't cover the damages, you would be liable for any damages done to others (property or otherwise), and you'll have a hard time suing Samsung to cover those damages as they have sent out several notices to return the phone. There is also the risk of Samsung simply bricking your phone. And we also don't know how long retailers will honor the return for, you think you'll be able to return for a full refund in January? As awesome as the phone is, there are just too many problems associated with keeping it long term, it's best to just return it and save your money for something else, whether that's an S7, S8, Pixel, iPhone, LG, or whatever.
That being said, this person is an adult and can decide for themselves what they do, and while it's fair to question them on why they're keeping it, calling them morons and that they deserve any harm they may come to them is being a bit harsh. As long as they take care of it and don't put others in harms way (this means no charging it on a flammable nightstand in a shared apartment/house, among other safety measures) then they can do whatever they want.
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'Gas bar' is new to me. Is this a Canadian thing and not actually a bar serving drinks inside a gas station?
If all he can do is ask if i'm not an Apple fan by any chance (i'm not) as if valid criticism can't come from Apple fans. Either way the problem usually is located between a chair and a keyboard.
Re : keeping the Note 7
The same user already posted a screen that popped up on his phone whilst using it
It's pretty clear Samsung as saying this is mandatory.
It is imo inevitable they will begin deactivating devices and blacklisting them by IMEI to prevent usage and to force users to return them.
Essentially keeping the Note 7 is a $800 gamble right now. It will not get any further software support and when/if blacklisted will be useless as a phone.
But it is the users property and they can choose to keep it or not. It is their choice at the end of the day, despite Samsung's mandatory recall.
But lets not pretend this is going to be a collectible or even in the same stratosphere as a classic car or other antiques. That is just silliness on an epic scale.
Should anything ever happen to the users Note 7 and it fail, possibly injuring them, others or their property, the user will essentially void any future insurance claim or medical expense claim by opting to keep the device after a mandatory recall, making them liable for the damage the device created.
But if they consider those risks worthwhile then so be it. It's their choice and inevitably then, their responsibility.
The same user already posted a screen that popped up on his phone whilst using it
Just got this message ...
It's pretty clear Samsung as saying this is mandatory.
It is imo inevitable they will begin deactivating devices and blacklisting them by IMEI to prevent usage and to force users to return them.
Essentially keeping the Note 7 is a $800 gamble right now. It will not get any further software support and when/if blacklisted will be useless as a phone.
But it is the users property and they can choose to keep it or not. It is their choice at the end of the day, despite Samsung's mandatory recall.
But lets not pretend this is going to be a collectible or even in the same stratosphere as a classic car or other antiques. That is just silliness on an epic scale.
Should anything ever happen to the users Note 7 and it fail, possibly injuring them, others or their property, the user will essentially void any future insurance claim or medical expense claim by opting to keep the device after a mandatory recall, making them liable for the damage the device created.
But if they consider those risks worthwhile then so be it. It's their choice and inevitably then, their responsibility.
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I took this last week in Portugal with regular iPhone 6.
When you say and i quote "I have a 7 Plus and have been nothing but disappointed so far with the camera," you i either have no clue what you are doing or trying to pretend having a valid concern. Either way i smell ****.
Well it's pretty I'll give you that, but the bright sunshine has a lot to do with that.
I think the picture completely lacks sharpness personally, something I think other devices do better.
But I don't have a clue what I'm doing (apparently) because taking a photo on a camera phone is one of the trickier things in life...
And it's like what @Fernandez27 has said, the expectations for the 7 (particularly the Plus) camera were very very high, so I expected a great deal from it. Straight out of the box shooting compared to the Note 7 was no where near as good. Nor was shutter speed and nor was low light.
So I will keep my disappointed opinion if that's alright with you, seeing as I have owned both devices. Oh and the Lumia's wipe the floor with both of them. Have a good day now.
Hahahahaha. Reality called on the LUMIA. I answered. Then took a cracking photo.
Hope they don't rush the s8 to market.
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Posting on the internet makes this a discussion point and comparing not returning phone to intoxication is a false equivalency and/or deflection.
I'm not keeping my Note 7 for any collectible reason, I intend to use it for 2 or 3 years. I understand it has been recalled. I understand it won't get OS updates. I understand it won't get warranty coverage. I understand any damage will be my responsibility and not covered under any type of insurance.
And for those that think that mandatory recall means it is more serious, Samsung just changed their wording to voluntary recall in USA. http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
And for those that think that mandatory recall means it is more serious, Samsung just changed their wording to voluntary recall in USA. http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
I hope you also understand that it could be a risk to others if it decides to catch fire. I would not be surprised if Samsung pushes an update to brick the units out there soon so people will be forced to turn them in.
Do you understand that they will likely blacklist the entire IMEI range (or those IMEI's on unaccounted devices) that the N7 utilised meaning it will then not work on any carrier network.
Well I guess if you are a hermit that lives in a detached house and never visit public buildings or friends houses while carrying your phone, it's absolutely fine!
Personally though I would take advantage of getting your money back rather than risk being stuck with a bricked device in a months time with no chance of a refund. I also couldn't see the point of keeping a phone that needs to be kept in a fireproof container every night while you sleep just in case it poisons you while you sleep and burns your house down.
I know it was stated any lithium battery can catch fire and yes that is true. This model however is proven to catch fire more often than is comfortably expected so there is an obvious difference IMO. Have fun and may yours not kill you!
Unlikely because Apple already tried and failed from intentionally bricking people's iPhones with error 53 but after the public backlash had to backtrack to just disabling touch ID. If anything Samsung might reduce the charge capacity and it's a good experiement that he's keeping it to see if it does eventually smoke or just media hysteria like ebola.
This is nothing to do with Apple. Samsung could argue that disabling phones remotely is a necessary follow up to a recall made due to very serious safety concerns.
If you actually tried to read,I asked him before I quoted your post
What if it suddenly catches fire in an crowded area?
I know that but considering replacement Note 7s exploded and Samsung actually decided to discontinue this device within just months from release I will take the lesser chances over a near virtual certainty
The question is would you like THIS as a collectible in your house?
Because eventually its just a matter of time before it happens
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If that experiment involves all the valuable papers I have in my house including my property,no thank you.You couldnt pay me to do it
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The Lumias actually were very innovative in the camera department before Microsoft took over.My 820 had Cinemagraph in 2012 which is what Apple calls Live Photos.The Lumias had dedicated camera buttons,a nice feature which I still treasure my 820 for considering no relevant flagship has it.I own an iPhone 7 Plus and that secondary camera aside I really dont see that much of a difference compared to my 6.With a Galaxy S7 ,thats a noticeable difference.I really dont find the iPhone camera as ground breaking as people suggest it is.
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