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Being able to change resolutions is huge. This would give us VR lovers our 4K screen while letting others enjoy great battery life by reducing to 2K or 1080P. I'm already sold on this and love the matte black look. I'll be ordering my case today. I'm also gonna just go no screen protectors. People really need to look at this in comparison to the Note 5, not the 7 Edge. But whatever, CANNOT WAIT for tomorrow's unveiling for everything to be official.
 
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MRU said:
Really!! Wow.

Through carriers, Samsung direct or both ?

That makes the ireland situation even more ridiculous.
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Was pretty much the same here in Sweden people that ordered a day before release still got the Gear VR. Everyone was running the campaign carriers and stores.
 
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PJM83 said:
Was pretty much the same here in Sweden people that ordered a day before release still got the Gear VR. Everyone was running the campaign carriers and stores.
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I have read that Ireland has one of the highest iPhone ownership outside of Japan, so likely Samsung simply do not see us as an important country so we were simply not allocated the stock other parts of Europe were. Hey ho.
 
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Sevanw said:
Being able to change resolutions is huge. This would give us VR lovers our 4K screen while letting others enjoy great battery life by reducing to 2K or 1080P. I'm already sold on this and love the matte black look. I'll be ordering my case today. I'm also gonna just go no screen protectors. People really need to look at this in comparison to the Note 5, not the 7 Edge. But whatever, CANNOT WAIT for tomorrow's unveiling for everything to be official.
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I don't think people realize that you aren't actually changing resolutions but simply changing the resolution at which the software renders thus you aren't truly experiencing the full efficiency gains of using a lower resolution.

A 4K screen will always be a 4K screen regardless of what resolution you tell the software to render at therefore the screen will still be using the exact same power. The only efficiency gains you would receive are based on the reduced load on the CPU/GPU as its rendering a lower resolution.

Unless Samsung actively turns off pixels to downscale the resolution, a 4K screen will still be a huge battery and resource hog. I simply don't see Samsung turning off pixels to reduce the resolution either but maybe I'm wrong.
 
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I don't think people realize that you aren't actually changing resolutions but simply changing the resolution at which the software renders thus you aren't truly experiencing the full efficiency gains of using a lower resolution.

A 4K screen will always be a 4K screen regardless of what resolution you tell the software to render at therefore the screen will still be using the exact same power. The only efficiency gains you would receive are based on the reduced load on the CPU/GPU as its rendering a lower resolution.

Unless Samsung actively turns off pixels to downscale the resolution, a 4K screen will still be a huge battery and resource hog. I simply don't see Samsung turning off pixels to reduce the resolution either but maybe I'm wrong.
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Well considering this option is under the battery saving mode, I'm guessing Samsung have found a way to turn off pixels or something to that effect. Didn't Sony's 4K screen do something similar? Their 4k wasn't always on, or something like that. Nonetheless, tomorrow we'll know everything.
 
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Be nice to hear tomorrow a feature that we don't know about
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I'm really looking forward to seeing the iris scanner in action from hands on use on the convention floor. Can't wait to unlock my phone with my gloves on. Unlike a few people that can't see beyond their own needs, this is great for us cold weather folk. I can't say enough how many times I waited to get inside and out of the cold to take off my gloves before answering a text or using my phone in any way. It's a pain in the butt to constantly take off your gloves to use your phone.
 
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I'm really looking forward to seeing the iris scanner in action from hands on use on the convention floor. Can't wait to unlock my phone with my gloves on. Unlike a few people that can't see beyond their own needs, this is great for us cold weather folk. I can't say enough how many times I waited to get inside and out of the cold to take off my gloves before answering a text or using my phone in any way. It's a pain in the butt to constantly take off your gloves to use your phone.
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But you could just use Samsung's glove mode. Don't need to take off gloves, and you can unlock via pattern if fingerprint scanner won't work.

If merely unlocking the phone with gloves is posing an issue, then even once you bypass this - you still need to interact with the screen to access content and utilise the device, in which case gloves if they are posing an issue interacting with the device on the lock screen, unfortunately they will remain so even after the device has been unlocked.
 
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Sevanw said:
Being able to change resolutions is huge. This would give us VR lovers our 4K screen while letting others enjoy great battery life by reducing to 2K or 1080P. I'm already sold on this and love the matte black look. I'll be ordering my case today. I'm also gonna just go no screen protectors. People really need to look at this in comparison to the Note 5, not the 7 Edge. But whatever, CANNOT WAIT for tomorrow's unveiling for everything to be official.
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Yes and no.


Technically a 4k screen requires more power to display than a 2k or FHD display. That is the amount of energy it consumes just on illuminating / driving the display.

When it drops down to 2K or FHD it is using internal scaling. Just like on a retina macbook pro for example if you dropped resolution. Whilst the content is lower resolution. The energy consumed illuminating that scaled display is exactly the same.

Where power saving kicks in is when you factor in the energy consumed by the GPU & CPU and here is where the power efficiency kicks in.

Running a CPU task or moreover GPU task heavy app will consume less power if the image is scaled down in resolution compared to running it at full 4k resolution.

But ... Even if scaling down, a native 2k or FHD screen would still be more power efficient than a 4k screen running at lower resolution because of the fact that it still requires more power to illuminate / drive the 4k display regardless of the content viewing.

So yes, there are certainly power savings to be made switching to a lower resolution rendering over native 4k rendering, but like for like - it's still more power inefficient than a lower res native display which is the point @msavic is making.
 
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I wonder if it would be possible to keep the high scaling but lower the resolution to 1080p? This way you could get a boost in performance without really sacrificing anything.
 
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I wonder if it would be possible to keep the high scaling but lower the resolution to 1080p? This way you could get a boost in performance without really sacrificing anything.
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That's exactly what the option would do I would imagine. You are still running a 4K (or in the Note 7 case 2k) display but scaling resolution down to 1080p but at equivalent HiDpi scaling (not regular scaling which would result in a much poorer picture quality / jaggies). So again similar to our high DPI monitors and how internal scaling works on them.

It still wouldn't be as power efficient clearly as a native 1080p display but would be more efficient on the CPU & GPU (though of course hi-dpi scaling has a modicum of overhead itself) it should still save some energy though YMMV depending on the content.

Heavy GPU tasks (games & 3D content) are still likely where the real power saving efficieny will be rewarded.

However chances are without running really GPU intensive apps (if you just used 2D content and standard applications), the saving recouped would be minimal.
 
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But you could just use Samsung's glove mode. Don't need to take off gloves, and you can unlock via pattern if fingerprint scanner won't work.

If merely unlocking the phone with gloves is posing an issue, then even once you bypass this - you still need to interact with the screen to access content and utilise the device, in which case gloves if they are posing an issue interacting with the device on the lock screen, unfortunately they will remain so even after the device has been unlocked.
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The whole point is to have a more convenient and same or higher level of security for unlocking your phone. Why do we have a fingerprint scanner if pattern or pin can still be used. Don't you think swiping up is quicker than keying in a pin or pattern? Iris scanning is one of the highest levels of security we have on phones right now.

Now I must say, I'm a little confused with your post. In one line you mention Samsung's increase touch sensitivity to use gloves. But then you say, once you unlock the phone with the Iris, the gloves would be a problem. You just explained gloves are not a problem.

I'll just explain, I'm wearing gloves. I get a message/email. Or I want to get on the phone and start checking undead emails or just browse the web. I use the fingerprint scanner like most people, because it's quick and easy. So the glove comes off to unlock the phone each and every time. Then it goes back on while I use the phone.
Now, with the Iris scanner, I swipe up to get my Iris scanned and bam, I'm in. Then start using the phone. Gloves stay on the whole time. I hope that clears up what I'm saying.
 
About 9.5 hours until the event!! Samsung keynotes aren't that exciting though ... well ... if I'm awake, I might watch.
 
Does anyone have a link to where it's going to be live streamed?

Hopefully I'll be done with my first job by then.
 
I suppose there is a logic in Samsung moving the Note away from the niche power user towards the mainstream consumer. The main downside to this is that it will disenfranchise some past Note users who purchased it precisely because of the productivity/power user aspect.

The only truly unique part of it in the Samsung lineup is the S-Pen.
 
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The Note 7 sure looks a nice phone, at least from the leaks that we have all seen. But I feel Samsung let themselves down over both software and customer service, just looking at their Facebook page puts me off ever wanting to buy a Samsung phone. The page is literally littered with complaints and horrible customer service stories, from customers themselves.
 
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The whole point is to have a more convenient and same or higher level of security for unlocking your phone. Why do we have a fingerprint scanner if pattern or pin can still be used. Don't you think swiping up is quicker than keying in a pin or pattern? Iris scanning is one of the highest levels of security we have on phones right now.

Now I must say, I'm a little confused with your post. In one line you mention Samsung's increase touch sensitivity to use gloves. But then you say, once you unlock the phone with the Iris, the gloves would be a problem. You just explained gloves are not a problem.

I'll just explain, I'm wearing gloves. I get a message/email. Or I want to get on the phone and start checking undead emails or just browse the web. I use the fingerprint scanner like most people, because it's quick and easy. So the glove comes off to unlock the phone each and every time. Then it goes back on while I use the phone.
Now, with the Iris scanner, I swipe up to get my Iris scanned and bam, I'm in. Then start using the phone. Gloves stay on the whole time. I hope that clears up what I'm saying.
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Clear up the confusion.

What i meant was if glove mode did not work for 'you' on lock screen, then it would pose same issue when unlocked.

A pattern unlock or pin unlock on the brief times you have gloves on may be an inconvenience but if you were a glasses user or contact lens user and the Iris Scanner required you to take those off, that seems equally if not more of an issue than using a pattern or pin on those occasions when your fingers are gloved.
 
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MRU said:
Omg, in that image they look over shiny.

But interestingly what is the A9 Pro 6? Is that an unreleased, unannounced product ?

[Never mind found it. A snapdragon 652, 1080p device, 4gb ram and a whopping 5,000 mAh battery.]
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Yes I was also thinking they look over shiney. Maybe it's just the picfure.
 
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