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spinedoc77

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Looking forward to this over my Note 5:
-incredible screen to body ratio, no one else even comes close, my pocket will thank me
-black one looks amazing, just short of perfection if they removed the front logo, but I'll take it
-ip68 is super nice (why does one rumor say ip67??)
-edges are very toned down, hopefully won't be an issue

The bad:
-Marshmallow, and won't see nougat for 8-10 months, bleh
-it's a tad thicker, let's hope that extra 500mah battery will go hand in hand with power refinements
-expensive, arguably overpriced seeing all these other cheaper phones coming out, but then maybe not with its features
 

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I will wait till later today to go to BB and hopefully the Samsung rep will have one to let me check out.

I don't expect to be blown away but at least impressed with it. Time will tell.
 
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I will wait till later today to go to BB and hopefully the Samsung rep will have one to let me check out.

I don't expect to be blown away but at least impressed with it. Time will tell.
Please report back and let us know your thoughts! :)
 
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The edge still looks very prominent to me on the gold model, but by the same token it does look very attractive device.
Yeah, reports keep saying it's less pronounced, but in that picture it sure looks the same as the s7 edge.

Fingers crossed for tomorrow.
 
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Note 7 Power Saving mode will have a greater number of options for customization.

You can limit max. brightness and the resolutions in addition to the default WQHD (1440 x 2560 pixels) are FHD (1080 x 1920 pixels) and HD (720 x 1280 pixels).

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The specs on the Note 7 make no sense to me. Usually the Note series sets the standard for the rest of the coming year. It's a niche device that is supposed to attract the power user crowd, folks like us who post to forums like this one. If it's simply a little-bigger-S7 Edge, what's the point? I'm hoping the suite of software is at least interesting. Battery not being bigger annoys the crap out of me though.
 
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MRU

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The specs on the Note 7 make no sense to me. Usually the Note series sets the standard for the rest of the coming year. It's a niche device that is supposed to attract the power user crowd...

No it 'WAS' a niche device. Now phablets are everywhere. Samsung are using the Note 7 spacing to give its mobile division a boost and keep it firmly planted in the mind of the 'mass' consumer. It makes NO sense for them to make a niche device and I am sure they never intended the Note to be niche, their desire as any company would be to sell more and more.

The Note 7 is a flagship 2016 device despite protestations from some users.
 
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The specs on the Note 7 make no sense to me. Usually the Note series sets the standard for the rest of the coming year. It's a niche device that is supposed to attract the power user crowd, folks like us who post to forums like this one. If it's simply a little-bigger-S7 Edge, what's the point? I'm hoping the suite of software is at least interesting. Battery not being bigger annoys the crap out of me though.
I don't get it either......the Note models should be the leader in specs and performance for Samsung. That is how it was in the past. Then it makes no sense to announce the N7 with Marshmallow and 3 days later Nougat is released. Unless Samsung surprises and the N7 has Nougat out of the box.....but not holding my breath for that to happen.

Meanwhile a little humor...

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No it 'WAS' a niche device. Now phablets are everywhere. Samsung are using the Note 7 spacing to give its mobile division a boost and keep it firmly planted in the mind of the 'mass' consumer. It makes NO sense for them to make a niche device and I am sure they never intended the Note to be niche, their desire as any company would be to sell more and more.

The Note 7 is a flagship 2016 device despite protestations from some users.

Sure. A 2016 flagship being released in September (fine...late August). That's not flagship anymore. The Note series used to lead the way for the *following* year. And I don't agree that it's niche was simply due to the size of its screen. The spen and powerhouse specs was designed to appeal directly to the power use. If the phone is intended to appeal to the masses, explain to me how it differentiates with the S7 Edge? The Spen?
 

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Note 7 Power Saving mode will have a greater number of options for customization.

You can limit max. brightness and the resolutions in addition to the default WQHD (1440 x 2560 pixels) are FHD (1080 x 1920 pixels) and HD (720 x 1280 pixels).

galaxy-note-7-saving-mode-4.jpg

That's amazing. Changing my resolution can save even more battery. Even at 720p, I have a better display than the iPhone SE users :p.
 

spinedoc77

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No it 'WAS' a niche device. Now phablets are everywhere. Samsung are using the Note 7 spacing to give its mobile division a boost and keep it firmly planted in the mind of the 'mass' consumer. It makes NO sense for them to make a niche device and I am sure they never intended the Note to be niche, their desire as any company would be to sell more and more.

The Note 7 is a flagship 2016 device despite protestations from some users.

I was under the impression it was still a niche device in terms of sales compared to other models, especially the S series. I'm not sure though as I haven't seen sales numbers, but I'd be curious.
 

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Sure. A 2016 flagship being released in September (fine...late August). That's not flagship anymore. The Note series used to lead the way for the *following* year. And I don't agree that it's niche was simply due to the size of its screen. The spen and powerhouse specs was designed to appeal directly to the power use. If the phone is intended to appeal to the masses, explain to me how it differentiates with the S7 Edge? The Spen?

I didn't say it was 'niche' just because of its size, but in a market flooded now with big devices that offer similar functionality albeit 'sans' s-pen it just isn't that niche anymore. Samsung did not make a device for it to be niche. Where would be the financial sense in that ?

Likewise, the very definition 'power user' is such a throwaway trope these days and ends up being utterly subjective.

It differs from the 7 edge via the S-Pen, increased screen size, iris scanner, increased storage capacity. They changed it from the Note '6' to 7 to bring it in line with their 2016 '7' range devices, because they clearly see it as just another extension of their 7 range of devices.

I won't be buying one because of the 'edge', but had a flat model been available - I wouldn't feel disappointed by the fact it shares similarities SOC wise to its brethren - the fact remains those devices have some of the fastest performance and best specs on any android device.
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I was under the impression it was still a niche device in terms of sales compared to other models, especially the S series. I'm not sure though as I haven't seen sales numbers, but I'd be curious.

But thats the point. Samsung does not and could never have wanted it to be 'niche', they want a mass consumer product that sells more and more units (millions). One that sells nearly as well as its brethren, and at the same time - causes enough talk and focus that it's publicity continues to also then overspill and drive continued sales of its brethren devices.

People need to start seeing the Note as an extension of that years galaxy range rather than completely separate product.
 
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spinedoc77

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But thats the point. Samsung does not and could never have wanted it to be 'niche', they want a mass consumer product that sells more and more units (millions). One that sells nearly as well as its brethren, and at the same time - causes enough talk and focus that it's publicity continues to also then overspill and drive continued sales of its brethren devices.

People need to start seeing the Note as an extension of that years galaxy range rather than completely separate product.

Yes, definitely agree. It's a S7 edge plus, which is a bit ironic seeing as how Apple were the ones who copied Samsung. But the difference between the 2 situations is the stylus, which is still definitely a niche accessory seeing as how the Note series is the only phone in the world with one (we'll ignore that LG that no one knows about for a second). In that sense I can see merit in some of our frustrations that it doesn't differentiate itself that much from the regular S7 edge. But I do see your point in that Samsung is shaping the Note series to really be a "plus" series in the S lineup and thus at heart really no more than a screen increase, with everything else gravy. I don't necessarily agree with it though. Nothing says Samsung has to follow Apple's model, especially when Samsung were and are the market pioneers. I suppose we will see what the price is, as the rumored specs stand I'd expect only a small price differential between this and the s7 edge, $50-100 max.
 
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I didn't say it was 'niche' just because of its size, but in a market flooded now with big devices that offer similar functionality albeit 'sans' s-pen it just isn't that niche anymore. Samsung did not make a device for it to be niche. Where would be the financial sense in that ?

Because niche can be very lucrative. And that's precisely what the device was. You're simply making up the notion that Samsung had other intentions for it. It loaded it with cutting edge specs and a stylus. The product was absolutely designed with a specific segment in mind. It wasn't meant to be a mass appeal device. That may have changed with the 7, which really makes zero sense. There is nothing that we've seen thus far that from a mass appeal perspective would separate the Note from the S7E

It differs from the 7 edge via the S-Pen, increased screen size, iris scanner, increased storage capacity. They changed it from the Note '6' to 7 to bring it in line with their 2016 '7' range devices, because they clearly see it as just another extension of their 7 range of devices.

Iris scanner is a complete non-starter. It's a gimmick that isn't going to generate one sale on its own. Storage capacity...who cares? They re-introduced a micro SD card slot. Increased screen size? 5.7 vs 5.5? Seriously?

I won't be buying one because of the 'edge', but had a flat model been available - I wouldn't feel disappointed by the fact it shares similarities SOC wise to its brethren - the fact remains those devices have some of the fastest performance and best specs on any android device.

They sure do...for mid-2016. That has never been part of the Note series. Note series led the way for the rest of the year for all competing devices. You keep glossing over this point for some reason.

But thats the point. Samsung does not and could never have wanted it to be 'niche', they want a mass consumer product that sells more and more units (millions). One that sells nearly as well as its brethren, and at the same time - causes enough talk and focus that it's publicity continues to also then overspill and drive continued sales of its brethren devices.

People need to start seeing the Note as an extension of that years galaxy range rather than completely separate product.

it doesn't extend it though. It's just a slightly different version of the S7 Edge. You don't seem overly familiar with the idea of cannibalization of sales.
 

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They sure do...for mid-2016. That has never been part of the Note series. Note series led the way for the rest of the year for all competing devices. You keep glossing over this point for some reason.
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Tell that to 2015 Samsung where the Note 5 shared same SOC as the S6/6e/6e+ [albeit 1gb extra ram except for 6e+]

This isn't a new precedent, but it's ok, you are just 'glossing' over that !


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Because niche can be very lucrative.

It can indeed. But no where near as lucrative as a mass consumer device.



If you have more issues with it, how about raising them with Samsung on their Facebook and social media portals, where I am sure they will be more inclined to listen and respond to your frustration - rather than simply taking them out on strangers on an extensibly 'mac' forum. Seems like your frustrated with the wrong people here ....
 
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Tell that to 2015 Samsung where the Note 5 shared same SOC as the S6/6e/6e+ [albeit 1gb extra ram except for 6e+]

This isn't a new precedent, but it's ok, you are just 'glossing' over that !

The SOC never changes, sure but the RAM isn't a small improvement and the screen size difference between the S line and the Note was considerable exept for the +. So yes, this year's version is setting a new precedent.

It can indeed. But no where near as lucrative as a mass consumer device.

They already have a mass consumer line. The Note will only cannibalize sales from the S7 E. It has no reason to exist as currently constituted.

If you have more issues with it, how about raising them with Samsung on their Facebook and social media portals, where I am sure they will be more inclined to listen and respond to your frustration - rather than simply taking them out on strangers on an extensibly 'mac' forum. Seems like your frustrated with the wrong people here ....

It's an internet forum in which we discuss these things such as this, and this is a sub-forum devoted specifically to Android devices. I'd suggest perhaps you're in the wrong place if that's a problem...?

And I"m not frustrated. I own an S7E. Every year I buy the new Note, and this year I won't bother. That's disappointing.
 

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The SOC never changes, sure but the RAM isn't a small improvement and the screen size difference between the S line and the Note was considerable exept for the +. So yes, this year's version is setting a new precedent.



They already have a mass consumer line. The Note will only cannibalize sales from the S7 E. It has no reason to exist as currently constituted.



It's an internet forum in which we discuss these things such as this, and this is a sub-forum devoted specifically to Android devices. I'd suggest perhaps you're in the wrong place if that's a problem...?

And I"m not frustrated. I own an S7E. Every year I buy the new Note, and this year I won't bother. That's disappointing.

I think the Note 7 has a reason to exist, as has been stated before. A larger screen and the stylus for the most part. Yes I agree that the changes are weak and should have been more substantial to differentiate it from the S7 edge, but that is MRU's point, that Samsung is taking a "plus" approach now and considers the Note 7 really as a S7 edge plus with the bonus of having a stylus. They must feel that they can attain more consumers this way, appealing to that consumer who planned to buy the s7 edge but then feels that for that extra $50 - $100 (my opinionated guesstimate) can get a larger screen and a stylus.

Once again I don't disagree with you, I would have loved to have seen a giant leap from the S7 edge to the Note 7 and wouldn't mind paying for it. But as a Note 5 owner I still feel it's a worthy upgrade. As a S7 edge owner I would NOT feel it was a worthy upgrade, but it's not meant as an upgrade to the S7 edge.

We're just discussing things here and I would hope we can all do it calmly and constructively.
 
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personally I don't see how storage capacity can be minimized by saying it has micro SD support.


For me anyway, the 32 GB only option for the s7e was a complete non starter. Even with expandable memory I want more than that.

The 64GB base for the note 7 is fantastic. Looking forward to buying this.
 
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