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Very tempting. Really the main thing giving me hesitation is I really don't want to buy another smart watch, and I want to see what Apple hatches next month.
 
Very tempting. Really the main thing giving me hesitation is I really don't want to buy another smart watch, and I want to see what Apple hatches next month.
Yeah, me too. When I was pre-ordering, the rep offered me the s2 for free or the s2 classic for $50. Caveat is its $10 a month for service on the watch and a 2 year contract. Almost pulled the trigger, but I think I'll wait on Apple and the apple watch 2.
 
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Wow, when's the last time you heard a major tech website calling out the iPhone. People really seem to have enough with Apple's "it just works," and "it's about the ecosystem, the complete experience."

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/08/03/galaxy-note-7-is-miles-ahead-of-the-iphone/

It's a completely silly article. Two of the three features first mentioned include water proofing and a stylus. Water proofing is nice but it's hardly anything innovative nor does it affect user experience one iota. A stylus? No one gives a sh*t, which is why the Note has been a niche device. (Don't bother bringing up the iPad Pro as a false equivalency. That device is also meant to be aimed at a niche market.) He brings up Samsung pay, cool feature but will be completely obsolete in a couple of years vs NFC. And I've used Samsung Pay. When it works, it's cool as hell. But there have been too many instances where the reader takes too long to pick up the device or vice versa and I wind up just taking out my CC and swiping. Apple Pay works virtually flawlessly. Also, Apple wasn't the first to offer NFC payments but they sure as hell were the first one to get it right. I can even use Apple pay in a majority of my apps, whereas I don't see Samsung Pay nor Android Pay as an option.

What's funny is there are areas that Apple could do more but the author picked the most banal "advantages" of the Note. Iris scanner?? The thing doesn't work in direct light, requires you to swipe to open it. I'ts a gimmick that barely anyone is going to even keep using.

And yeah, it is about the part where it "just works" and the complete experience. For instance, I can send any size pic through text on my iPhone (I'm talking TEXT or MMS, *not* iMessage). My Sammy S7 Edge has at times refused to download pics if they're too big and won't send for same reason.
 
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brings up Samsung pay, cool feature but will be completely absolute in a couple of years vs NFC.

Did you mean 'obsolete'?

If so, serious question: Samsung Pay doesn't work with NFC? I thought it was both NFC and MFT or whatever the other thing was?

I'm confused why Samsung Pay will be obsolete versus NFC...

Unless you did mean absolute?
 
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What's funny is there are areas that Apple could do more but the author picked the most banal "advantages" of the Note. Iris scanner?? The thing doesn't work in direct light, requires you to swipe to open it. I'ts a gimmick that barely anyone is going to even keep using.

Iris scanner does indeed have a gimmicky feel to it, but having test-driven one thanks to a Microsoft campaign about the Lumia 950 XL, I can see the advantages it has. Sure, normally I'll just use the fingerprint scanner to unlock my phone, but living in a country where it's actually a pretty good idea to wear gloves during winter, an alternate biometric unlock option is rather welcome, especially when gloves that work with touchscreens exist but are naturally incompatible with fingerprint scanners.
 
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Just played around with one for a couple of minutes at the Verizon store, and wow it looks and feels great. They really improved the edge curve, when holding it normally, none of my palm or fingers were touching the screen, when I'd stretch to manipulate the screen they would touch but it seems the software is smarter and was ignoring those touches. Only played around with it for a minute or so, so can't say for sure but it seems they fixed the Phantom touch problem.

Also, as for the spen usability, the curve is so far to the edge of the screen that it really only affects you if you like to write all the way to the edge. Still disappointed there were no spec bumps, but the design is much better than edge and can't wait to get mine, which I should get a couple days early according to at&t, they told me the 17th.
 
Just played around with one for a couple of minutes at the Verizon store, and wow it looks and feels great. They really improved the edge curve, when holding it normally, none of my palm or fingers were touching the screen, when I'd stretch to manipulate the screen they would touch but it seems the software is smarter and was ignoring those touches. Only played around with it for a minute or so, so can't say for sure but it seems they fixed the Phantom touch problem.

Also, as for the spen usability, the curve is so far to the edge of the screen that it really only affects you if you like to write all the way to the edge. Still disappointed there were no spec bumps, but the design is much better than edge and can't wait to get mine, which I should get a couple days early according to at&t, they told me the 17th.
Cool. Looks like I'll have to keep an eye out for a deal before years out ;)

Look forward to hearing all your thoughts when it begin shipping.
 
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Did you mean 'obsolete'?

If so, serious question: Samsung Pay doesn't work with NFC? I thought it was both NFC and MFT or whatever the other thing was?

I'm confused why Samsung Pay will be obsolete versus NFC...

Unless you did mean absolute?

Yup, autocorrect strikes again! Obsolete. The point is that the *advantage* it has over NFC currently will be short lived. And I personally haven't found it to be as reliable as using Apple or Android pay.
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Iris scanner does indeed have a gimmicky feel to it, but having test-driven one thanks to a Microsoft campaign about the Lumia 950 XL, I can see the advantages it has. Sure, normally I'll just use the fingerprint scanner to unlock my phone, but living in a country where it's actually a pretty good idea to wear gloves during winter, an alternate biometric unlock option is rather welcome, especially when gloves that work with touchscreens exist but are naturally incompatible with fingerprint scanners.

I'm sure there are use cases but the majority of folks who use some kind of security on their phones will opt for fingerprint scanner.
 
That's more than likely, but fortunately the Note 7 doesn't force you to make a choice. You've got both and you can use them as you see fit.

Sure. And like the stylus, most folks won't even bother with the Iris Scanner. So my point remains: these aren't items I'd hang a medal on for "most innovative."
 
The Iris scanner has it's advantages. I have can still control my screen with the gloves I wear for cold weather and riding my motorbike. It can be a PITA to type password correctly with gloves and obviously the finger sensor will not work with gloves on. This is when the Iris scanner to unlock will become useful, cause it's also a PITA to keep taking off a glove just to unlock. So this looks like it will be useful for me every now and then.
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Sure. And like the stylus, most folks won't even bother with the Iris Scanner. So my point remains: these aren't items I'd hang a medal on for "most innovative."

I'll be using the Stylus a lot on the Note 7. Since it will allow me to write notes from the lock screen and pin it to the Always On Display if I want. And the gif maker is pretty damn cool.
 
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To me a gimmick is when a feature has little use AND it doesn't work properly. In the past Samsung was notorious for adding these features that not only had little use other than to fill a marketing sheet, they didn't work right and bogged down the phone.

But something like the iris scanner, while its something I probably won't be using, from all the hands on I've seen it seems to work very well, and they're even using infrared so it works in low light too. So that to me isn't a gimmick, but a niche feature, and there is nothing wrong with niche features.
 
Only way you can survive upgrading to enjoy the Note 7 and then the S8 is through a JoD plan on T-Mobile or something similar. The prices are scary high. Not trying to brag or anything, but those who pay S7 and S7 Edge prices now are being given an value advantage over the Note 7.

The new battery modes that allow you to adjust your resolution? Will that be on the S7/S7E? Or will that be hardware reliant and the Note 7 will the be first to feature that? First time an OEM invested in doing this too?
 
The Iris scanner seems like a gimmick to me as you have to do 3 steps to get to the homescreen
- wake up the phone
- swipe
- scan iris
 
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Only way you can survive upgrading to enjoy the Note 7 and then the S8 is through a JoD plan on T-Mobile. The prices are scary high. Not trying to brag or anything, but those who pay S7 and S7 Edge prices now are being given an value advantage over the Note 7.
Yeah, I plan on slowing down my upgrade cycle. This year I've had the iPhone 6s plus, note 5, s7 edge, s7 and soon note 7. I plan on skipping the next iPhone and next year only upgrade the iphone and keep the note 7 until the note 9.
 
I'm also tempted by both the S7 edge and Note 7, although I've had past experience with Samsung phones and those experiences were not positive from both a hardware and UX/UI perspective. Granted, that was a few years ago and I know they have supposedly refined the latter.

I think I'll wait and see how Nexus Marlin and Sailfish measure up.

It is a bit sad that the rumors surrounding this year's iphone have been so meh, if not downright controversial. Part of me thinks there will be some kind of surprise when it's announced, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
Same here. I doubt I will use it. But I can see for some it will come in quite handy in cold weather with gloves. A very nice niche feature.

Its just the heart rate sensor of 2016. A few will use, but most will use to show off the feature for first few days as novelty (to show off to friends etc..) and then within a few days after novelty has worn off, relegate it to the same fate as the HRS.

Though i think it likely has more place on a mobile than the HRS overall and in a couple of revisions time will be much better and practical.
 
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The Iris scanner seems like a gimmick to me as you have to do 3 steps to get to the homescreen
- wake up the phone
- swipe
- scan iris

My issue with it as well. I don't see it as a gimmick as it could be a really useful feature but Samsung has done a poor job with its implementation. If they had utilized raise to wake and simultaneously activated the iris scanner, it could be a blazing fast security solution. As it stands now it's just clumsy.
 
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Yeah, I plan on slowing down my upgrade cycle. This year I've had the iPhone 6s plus, note 5, s7 edge, s7 and soon note 7. I plan on skipping the next iPhone and next year only upgrade the iphone and keep the note 7 until the note 9.

You're saying that now lol. Wait till a 4K device, Exynos processor, 6-8GB RAM, etc comes into play?
 
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