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SomeDudeAsking

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Nov 23, 2010
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All of you are missing the major benefit of eye scrolling: people with disabilities will have a much easier time reading or surfing the web.
 

DanteMann

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May 23, 2011
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All of you are missing the major benefit of eye scrolling: people with disabilities will have a much easier time reading or surfing the web.

I don't think they're missing the point. I think they're ignoring it. We're talking about a Samsung phone being more innovative in features since the S2 and improving at much faster rate than the iPhone, in an Apple forum. ;)
 

standingoten

macrumors newbie
Mar 4, 2013
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All of you are missing the major benefit of eye scrolling: people with disabilities will have a much easier time reading or surfing the web.

....Since when did Samsung try to appeal to the elderly age group? If I remember correctly, they bashed them in a commercial portraying them as foolish for waiting in line for an iPhone...

If anything Samsung should consider fixing their TouchWiz and making the phones fit in the small feeble hands of the elderly.
 

SomeDudeAsking

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Nov 23, 2010
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....Since when did Samsung try to appeal to the elderly age group? If I remember correctly, they bashed them in a commercial portraying them as foolish for waiting in line for an iPhone...

If anything Samsung should consider fixing their TouchWiz and making the phones fit in the small feeble hands of the elderly.

The elderly prefer the big screens of Samsung phones. iPhone screens are illegible for many older people because they are too small.
 

cnev3

macrumors 6502
Sep 13, 2012
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Android phones are great with implementing new features, and the latest hardware, but I probably won't switch back to an Android phone unless they release a phone that lets me plug in my music instruments, doesn't need or use a virus scanner, has a stable OS that doesn't act funky, and gets all the great apps that iOS does.

Eye scrolling does seem badass, and kudos to Samsung if they pull it off right.
 

Timzer

macrumors 6502
Nov 10, 2011
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Please link me to a credible study that backs that up.

Wow, really? It never ceases to amaze me when someone hates a brand to the point they will bash it no matter what. Just come out and say YOU hate Samsung and don't care for any of their products regardless of how good they may be. It's ok to hate a brand just for the heck of it, as long as you just admit it. Don't you find it stressful to make up reasons to hate something. It's not worth the stress bro.
 

Truefan31

macrumors 68040
Aug 25, 2012
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Just imagine how great this feature would be if Apple had come up with it first. :)

exactly. You'd see about 10 different commercials and everyone praising eye scrolling on an iphone, you already see how they market the do not disturb and noise cancelling mics like they're some breakthrough features lol.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
25,370
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a better place
All of you are missing the major benefit of eye scrolling: people with disabilities will have a much easier time reading or surfing the web.

Unless their disability is blindness ;) :p



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I have a vision of a bunch of teenagers looking at Internet porn on their smartphones and thinking their having a stroke (of the medical variety - not the mastubatory kind - but now I clarify that, they are teenagers) as the screen jumps all over the place ... :)



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But in seriousness sounds like another feature like the tap and then tilt to zoom in on photos etc, that Samsung has had - which most folks never bother using simply because pinch to zoom is much more practical....

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My parents.

Two people (assuming they weren't bigamists or Mormons) doesn't constitute a credible case study I'm afraid.
 
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bili.d.kid

macrumors member
Mar 2, 2013
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apple its not a tech company that only inovate features that comes to wow everybody, and not even got a point the benefit of the new features in the use of productivity in our real day life. they can do much more if they want to, its company its full of the world best engineers.but they didnt, why? because they simply havent find any other to inovate their iphone line to be more easy to use, yet its sophisticated result in productivity, elegant, intuitive in the same time and the iphone 5 its allready there.
 

adder7712

macrumors 68000
Mar 9, 2009
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If Apple comes up with this, it would've been "spectacular" and "innovative". Otherwise, the reception would be lukewarm and dismissed as "useless".
 

adztaylor

macrumors 68000
Aug 20, 2009
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If Apple comes up with this, it would've been "spectacular" and "innovative". Otherwise, the reception would be lukewarm and dismissed as "useless".

This has been said to death already in this thread and I'm not sure it's true. Apple seems to get bashed lately for any new features they bring out.

Anyway back on topic. Sounds interesting. Would love to see it working in action.
 

bili.d.kid

macrumors member
Mar 2, 2013
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In the middle of scrolling webpage with my eyes, someone talking with me and have to look at.then im back to my phone and allready scrolled down because of my eyes movement before..how annoying
 

wellred

macrumors member
Mar 3, 2013
55
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If it works consistently, it could be nice. However, I foresee some serious usability issues: It won't work in the dark, probably won't work well with other people around watching your phone, etc.

The magic of Apple is that they have technology for a purpose. Do I NEED to have eye scrolling? Nope. It is a wizz-bang feature that will get them some initial sales, but if it doesn't work well, they're going to have a big user/media backlash to deal with.

No one really needed cover flow. And one can argue it's more efficient to locate the album from within more or via a playlist.

Face it Apple has lost it's mojo as far as phones are concerned. What was once a slick UI envied by all is now yesterday UI and is growing more stale by the month.
 

tekno

macrumors 6502a
Oct 15, 2011
840
4
No, it doesn't. Smartstay does not work well and I can see another useless feature like this with eye scrolling.

I'm afraid I agree.

Unless a feature works 100% of the time, it just gets irritating and I go back to the old way.

Smart Stay often doesn't work (and the flashing icon gets annoying), Siri regularly didn't work, so that got switched off. Voice Control on the 3GS was the same. Smart Rotation didn't work. Auto screen brightness is hit and miss.

But scrolling with my finger works every time. So I'll probably just stick to that.

I really hope this is a silly rumour and not a real feature.
 

Dave.UK

macrumors 65816
Sep 24, 2012
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Kent, UK
In the middle of scrolling webpage with my eyes, someone talking with me and have to look at.then im back to my phone and allready scrolled down because of my eyes movement before..how annoying

You make it sound like your already using the phone with this feature! Im sure Samsung thought of various scenarios and made allowances for them. Lets just wait for it be demoed before casting FUD.
 

mib1800

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Sep 16, 2012
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I'm afraid I agree.

Unless a feature works 100% of the time, it just gets irritating and I go back to the old way.

Smart Stay often doesn't work (and the flashing icon gets annoying), Siri regularly didn't work, so that got switched off. Voice Control on the 3GS was the same. Smart Rotation didn't work. Auto screen brightness is hit and miss.

But scrolling with my finger works every time. So I'll probably just stick to that.

I really hope this is a silly rumour and not a real feature.

I can tell you Smart Stay works 100% of the time under normal use condition. Obviously it can't work 100% under all conditions because it is not designed for that. Do you throw away your phone because it drops signal once in a while?
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
2,379
1,410
North Yorkshire
I quite like the idea, good that a company has the balls to release it first. If it doesnt' work to my satisfaction, I will switch it off and go back to the way everyone else scrolls on their phones from a different manufacturer.

Nice feature to have an option of using, if it's on your phone you have the option, if it's not, you don't. :)
 

thehustleman

macrumors 65816
Jan 3, 2013
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1
If it works consistently, it could be nice. However, I foresee some serious usability issues: It won't work in the dark, probably won't work well with other people around watching your phone, etc.

The magic of Apple is that they have technology for a purpose. Do I NEED to have eye scrolling? Nope. It is a wizz-bang feature that will get them some initial sales, but if it doesn't work well, they're going to have a big user/media backlash to deal with.

Smartphone users don't NEED siri, don't NEED passbook, don't NEED a lot of things apple puts into their phones but pushing forward with technology is the name of the game and falling behind is not a good thing no matter how you spin it.
 

Dr McKay

macrumors 68040
Aug 11, 2010
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Kirkland
What is the practical gain for users in having progressed beyond the ability of the human eye to discern pixels at viewing distance on the 3.5" to 5.8" phone screen?

I don't hold my phone at the viewing distance that Apple says requires you not to be able to distinguish individual pixels, nor do a lot people I know.

The PPI of a 1080 screen at 4.5-5 inches will mean you won't be able to see pixels even when you hold it closer like I do when I browse the web at night in bed. It also means that full HD movies will look great, also you'll see more of the website when you're browsing.
 

thehustleman

macrumors 65816
Jan 3, 2013
1,123
1
It's a feature that is going to eat up battery. With a 5 inch screen at 1080p it won't be worth it when you have to charge it every 30 minutes. Iphone has a retina display and easily fits in the pocket. All these large screen phones require a suitcase to carry and look absolutely ridiculous plastered to your ear.

Wouldn't have to charge it so frequently. The galaxy S III has amazing battery life so why would samsung take a step back on that tip?
Also the galaxy S III as well as the galaxy Note 2 are very pocketable. Easily fits in the pocket unless you wear women's jeans.

The iphone feels like a kids toy after handling a real phone. Especially with typing.

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I can tell you Smart Stay works 100% of the time under normal use condition. Obviously it can't work 100% under all conditions because it is not designed for that. Do you throw away your phone because it drops signal once in a while?

I disagree. From experience smart stay never works.
 

The-Real-Deal82

macrumors P6
Jan 17, 2013
17,317
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Wales, United Kingdom
This is pretty neat if it's true. I just can't believe Apple is falling further and further behind in the smartphone game. I hope Apple will be bringing out their biggest phone innovations later this year with a totally new iPhone, if it doesn't want to be overshadowed. Personally, I love the competition.
I think the only people who are urging this form of competition is a fraction of the consumer market. I agree things like eye scrolling are bringing innovation to the market, but we are getting to the point where its yet another feature for features sake IMO. We seem to be in a phase now where unless a new smartphone comes packed with a range of never done before features, its simply not competing with its rivals. I think its all getting silly now and I hope Apple bring subtle changes rather than trying to compete against a market it has no real interest in competing with.

At some point companies like Samsung, LG, HTC and the likes are going to plateau with their growth. Share holders will up their demands and they'll be in a situation like Apple where profits and sales are increasing, but expectation is too high and unrealistic. I'm a Product Designer myself and innovation is fantastic, but it can move too fast, whilst increasing expectation onto unsustainable levels.
 
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