Galaxy S IV will have eye scrolling

[cynics]

2 people do not make up a conclusive study that older people like bigger screens. So where's that link? No link?

Is being old a disability? Why was this even brought up? Someone said there is use for disabled people, then everyone jumps to elderly? Ok

What about limited use of your arms or hands?

iOS already has an accessibility option for "large text". So if people with poor sight can see the screen fine and there is no study to prove otherwise why does iOS have a setting for it?

Does there have to be a case study that says people with poor vision can't see to well? Lol

 

[VulchR]

I've performed oculomotor (eye movement) research in three different species, including humans. This is one of those things that seems like a good idea, and perhaps it will be. However, if Samsung aren't careful the visual feedback of the screen moving around might cause headaches or nausea (the Galaxy S Vomit). Also, I imagine this will be rather difficult to control at first, particularly is the position of the screen changes due to arm and hand movements.

I would have thought a more sensible way to make use of eye movements would be to use motion parallax to recreate a 3-D effect without silly goggles and also to use gaze in conjunction with blinking to select buttons and menus.

In any case, if this report is true, it's about time phone manufacturers took into account the single best indicator of where our attention is focused. Thank goodness for our white sclera.

 

[ucfgrad93]

If it works consistently, it could be nice. However, I foresee some serious usability issues: It won't work in the dark, probably won't work well with other people around watching your phone, etc.

The magic of Apple is that they have technology for a purpose. Do I NEED to have eye scrolling? Nope. It is a wizz-bang feature that will get them some initial sales, but if it doesn't work well, they're going to have a big user/media backlash to deal with.

Agreed. I see something like this being more of an aggravation than a help.

 

[matttye]

Great idea. As long as it works, I think this will be an excellent UI enhancement.

What will be incredibly annoying, even if it happens rarely, is if it starts scrolling before you're done reading. What if you inadvertently glance at the bottom of the screen before you want to scroll? What if it mistakenly thinks you've glanced at the bottom?

As somebody has already said, it won't work in the dark, just like Smart Stay doesn't.

Great idea as long as it works well!

 

[cynics]

I think its too soon to say this will/won't work. For all we know it could be 2 cameras. One at the top and one at the bottom. Looking directly at either for a short duration (maybe adjustable setting) will cause the screen to scroll up or down a half page (maybe another adjustable setting).

It's not like you can't fall back to using your thumb.

I highly doubt its going to be something that senses where you are looking and moves the screen all over the place constantly.

 

[F123D]

Oh - if its Passbook, then yes. Definitely not a failure....at least for me. I use it on a regular basis.

Why would Samsung by copying it if it was a failed "gimmick"?

That was pretty dumb of Samsung tbh.

A lot of of iPhone users on this forum think it's pointless and don't even use it.

 

[matttye]

That was pretty dumb of Samsung tbh.

A lot of of iPhone users on this forum think it's pointless and don't even use it.

I find it pointless in its' present state, but only because I don't use any of the apps that you can use with it.

If I was a Starbucks customer or used any of the other apps, it would be useful.

 

[F123D]

I find it pointless in its' present state, but only because I don't use any of the apps that you can use with it.

If I was a Starbucks customer or used any of the other apps, it would be useful.

True. Only problem is there are a lot of people in the same situation as you are.

 

[The Game 161]

Nice feature to have.. Clever of Samsung

 

[jrswizzle]

That was pretty dumb of Samsung tbh.

A lot of of iPhone users on this forum think it's pointless and don't even use it.

I find it extremely useful....though I admit I'm a user of many of the apps....

Travel for work and use the boarding passes all the time as well as the AAdvantage care which shows my miles, frequenter of starbucks, and once they roll out MLB support for my Rangers, I'll hopefully be able to upload some portion of my season tickets on there as well - be nice for me since I like to keep the tickets, but they generally get crushed in my pockets.

The biggest application IMO is for loyalty cards like Best Buy's reward zone which have a point total associated.....I can't tell you how many times I go into the website (now the app at least) to check my points....having it auto update in a scan-able pass would be awesome. Not to mention pulling Gift Certs. from it would be cool too.

Plenty of applications for it....just not as widespread....*cough* NFC *cough*....

 

[Irishman]

On my 4.6 inch 1280x768 display I can see individual pixels, 1080p would remedy this.

Also in the Web Browser it'd be able to display much more content without having to scroll, and because the resolution will be higher you'll be able to read certain text without having to zoom in.

Do you have robotic eye implants? How far away do you see pixels on your phone?

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Won't be meaningless if it's 1080p output.

That's the only application for it that would possibly matter.

Assuming you've got a TV with MHL.
Assuming the video you're playing isn't compressed six ways to Sunday.
Assuming the TV itself is big enough and you're sitting close enough.

But, other than that, yeah, it's AWESOME!.

 

[Dr McKay]

Do you have robotic eye implants? How far away do you see pixels on your phone?

When I browse the web at night on it I'll hold it maybe 30cm away, and on text and things with rounded corners I can see the pixels.

 

[TheHateMachine]

Do you have robotic eye implants? How far away do you see pixels on your phone?

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That's the only application for it that would possibly matter.

Assuming you've got a TV with MHL.
Assuming the video you're playing isn't compressed six ways to Sunday.
Assuming the TV itself is big enough and you're sitting close enough.

But, other than that, yeah, it's AWESOME!.

My vision is normal and I can still see small amounts of pixelation without holding either my S3 and Note 2 right up to my face.

Also, MHL to HDMI adapter?

https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...=X&ei=GnY2UZSWL8au2gXNuYCwDA&ved=0CIUBEPMCMAM

 

[Irishman]

Been done before

No, remember that we thought that it was a traditional hybrid drive when first announced, but it's not.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5446?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

You effectively get near-SSD read and write speeds, plus the space advantages of a spinning hard drive, which so far sounds like a hybrid, but read on.

http://www.macworld.com/article/2013805/fusion-drive-an-overview.html

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My vision is normal and I can still see small amounts of pixelation without holding either my S3 and Note 2 right up to my face.

How many inches away from your face do you hold your phone?

 

[Dr McKay]

Do you have robotic eye implants? How far away do you see pixels on your phone?

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That's the only application for it that would possibly matter.

Assuming you've got a TV with MHL.
Assuming the video you're playing isn't compressed six ways to Sunday.
Assuming the TV itself is big enough and you're sitting close enough.

But, other than that, yeah, it's AWESOME!.

Have you considered going to the opticians? I'm short-sighted and wear glasses when I watch TV and I can tell the difference when watching 720p video and 1080p when watching it on my 32 inch TV. I can especially tell the difference between them when watching on my laptop which has a 1080 screen.

 

[Truefan31]

This has been said to death already in this thread and I'm not sure it's true. Apple seems to get bashed lately for any new features they bring out.

Anyway back on topic. Sounds interesting. Would love to see it working in action.

They get bashed because its not new. Do not disturb isn't new. Noise canceling mics are not new. That's why they get bashed

 

[scapegoat81]

It's a feature that is going to eat up battery. With a 5 inch screen at 1080p it won't be worth it when you have to charge it every 30 minutes. Iphone has a retina display and easily fits in the pocket. All these large screen phones require a suitcase to carry and look absolutely ridiculous plastered to your ear.

Finally someone with a brain....

 

[Irishman]

Have you considered going to the opticians? I'm short-sighted and wear glasses when I watch TV and I can tell the difference when watching 720p video and 1080p when watching it on my 32 inch TV. I can especially tell the difference between them when watching on my laptop which has a 1080 screen.

Opticians cannot diagnose eye problems, opthalmologists and optometrists do that. And my eyes are fine.

I can't diagnose your vision. I can only say that your stated visual acuity approaches the cybernetic. Never change your prescription! 95% of people cannot see anywhere NEAR as much detail as you say you're seeing, so consider yourself fortunate.

But you must understand that you're an outlier when it comes to users for whom handset makers are designing screens. What's worse? Designing for the 5% of people who can see the difference? Or pretending to design for the 95% of those who can't?

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My vision is normal and I can still see small amounts of pixelation without holding either my S3 and Note 2 right up to my face.

Also, MHL to HDMI adapter?

https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...=X&ei=GnY2UZSWL8au2gXNuYCwDA&ved=0CIUBEPMCMAM

You do realize that seeing pixelation on a phone image is not the same as seeing individual pixels on a phone screen. In fact, pixelation is often associated with poor application of anti-aliasing. You may be seeing pixelation, in fact, that is easier to understand than seeing one of just under a million true pixels.

How do you verify that you're in fact, seeing a pixel?

 

[Dr McKay]

Opticians cannot diagnose eye problems, opthalmologists and optometrists do that. And my eyes are fine.

I can't diagnose your vision. I can only say that your stated visual acuity approaches the cybernetic. Never change your prescription! 95% of people cannot see anywhere NEAR as much detail as you say you're seeing, so consider yourself fortunate.

But you must understand that you're an outlier when it comes to users for whom handset makers are designing screens. What's worse? Designing for the 5% of people who can see the difference? Or pretending to design for the 95% of those who can't?

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You do realize that seeing pixelation on a phone image is not the same as seeing individual pixels on a phone screen. In fact, pixelation is often associated with poor application of anti-aliasing. You may be seeing pixelation, in fact, that is easier to understand than seeing one of just under a million true pixels.

How do you verify that you're in fact, seeing a pixel?

But an optician well be able to see if you have poor eyesight. Anyway irregardless of being able to see pixels or not, having a 1080 screen will benefit the user over a 720p one. You'll be able to see more web content in the browser without scrolling, you'll be able to read finer text without zooming, you'll also benefit in apps like the maps app.

Where did you get the figure for 95% of people.

 

[standingoten]

This thread is a mess.

Bewilders me some people are defending a concept that isn't confirmed a feature on the S4 yet AND they don't even know the details on how it works.

 

[NumberNine]

It's a feature that is going to eat up battery. With a 5 inch screen at 1080p it won't be worth it when you have to charge it every 30 minutes. Iphone has a retina display and easily fits in the pocket. All these large screen phones require a suitcase to carry and look absolutely ridiculous plastered to your ear.

How do you know it will eat battery? You don't... you're making assumptions.

These large screens phones don't require a suitcase. S3 fits in my pocket no problem.

 

[F123D]

This thread is a mess.

Bewilders me some people are criticizing a concept that isn't confirmed a feature on the S4 yet AND they don't even know the details on how it works.

There you go.

 

[Irishman]

But an optician well be able to see if you have poor eyesight. Anyway irregardless of being able to see pixels or not, having a 1080 screen will benefit the user over a 720p one. You'll be able to see more web content in the browser without scrolling, you'll be able to read finer text without zooming, you'll also benefit in apps like the maps app.

Where did you get the figure for 95% of people.

From those calibrators I mentioned before? Also, see below specifically. There are some charts that guide you through where screen size and resolution go hand in hand with viewing distance.

From THX, also - http://www.thx.com/consumer/home-entertainment/home-theater/hdtv-set-up/

From SMPTE also - http://www.avsforum.com/t/1004723/chart-distance-x-screen-size-standards-smpte-and-thx

From C/NET - http://reviews.cnet.com/720p-vs-1080p-hdtv/

From Scott Wilkinson at Hometheater.com - http://www.hometheater.com/content/1080p-vs-720p-displays

 

[Siyah]

Knowing Samsung this is most probably going to be just as unreliable as quick glance on the note 2 and voice commands on their Smart TVs To be fair they are trying to be innovative but need to improve the reliability of such new features.

 

[Tinmania]

Knowing Samsung this is most probably going to be just as unreliable as quick glance on the note 2 and voice commands on their Smart TVs To be fair they are trying to be innovative but need to improve the reliability of such new features.

Quick glance is about as close to 100% reliable for me as it can get. Just put my hand up to the top of the phone and it appears.

Haven't used voice command on their tvs but don't see the relevance here. I do use S Voice which works ok for me. So does smart stay.




Michael