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Beeplance

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Jul 29, 2012
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From what I gather:
The S4 is a beefier S3. It has the Snapdragon S600, 2GB of ram (same as last year's US S3), 4.99" full HD screen. The TouchWiz features in all honesty will probably be implemented to S3 by developers. In fact, it's safe to say that reviewing the phone based purely on hardware is the way to go.

S4 vs. HTC One:
Processor: Slight edge S4 due to 200mhz base speed advantage. This will most likely be overlooked when custom kernels drop. Verdict: Wash.

Ram: Both phones come equipped with 2GB of ram. Again, wash.

GPU: Same processor, same GPU. Adreno 320 which is currently the beast in 3dMark scores.

Screen: 4.7" LCD vs 4.99" (effectively 5") AMOLED. Both full HD so the PPI advantage goes to HTC with viewable screen estate going to the Samsung. Kind of a taster's choice if you ask me. Those who enjoy the vibrant/deep blacks of Samsung screens will undoubtedly enjoy the S4. Those who enjoy the bright whites and contrast ratio of LCD's will enjoy the One. The real choice to be made is whether you want a 5" screen or a 4.7" screen. If you think bigger is better, you will NOT be able to keep the One without thinking "I wish it was 5"".

Perks:
S4 has removable battery and a micro SD slot. A 16GB can turn into a 48GB with a $30 trip to Wal-Mart. HTC One has the clear advantage in build quality and feel. It just looks and feels better. (This is coming from someone who's picking up the S4 on the morning of the 24th) The HTC also has the better image quality camera if you're after low-light and better depth of focus.

The last real perk and this one, I'll probably get flamed for, but you HTC fans need to get over it and accept it: The S4 will undoubtedly have more developer support. There was practically an army of support for the S3 and that cult will follow through 2013. If you plan on flashing a custom rom, you will have as much support for the S4 (and options) as you would on a Nexus 4. HTC has become less and less popular on boards due to HTC's inability to meet mainstream consumer needs. Thinking about what engineers want in the phone vs finding middle ground between consumers and engineering finesse.

So in conclusion:
If you're happy with 4.7" of screen estate, less-than-top billing for development and okay with fixed storage/battery capacity, the HTC One is hands down the better device.

However, if you want 5" of screen estate, want to have the #1 supported device and you love having a microSD slot or being able to swap batteries, the S4 is for you.

Like your analysis & comparison a lot! Most likely I'm getting the white S4, though not immediately after release. I think the S4 is much more than just a S3-S; it's really much more than that. Every part of the phone (especially the screen) looks so beautiful to me! :)
 

Essenar

macrumors 6502a
Oct 24, 2008
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Like your analysis & comparison a lot! Most likely I'm getting the white S4, though not immediately after release. I think the S4 is much more than just a S3-S; it's really much more than that. Every part of the phone (especially the screen) looks so beautiful to me! :)

I don't understand peoples' lack of ability to comprehend what I said.

Where in my review did I say it was a S3-S or equivalent of Apple's S cycle phones?

And lastly, since when are Apple's S cycle phones bad? I actually think they're the most impressive of Apple's devices. I'm always happier with S phones. I sold my iPhone 3G like two months after I bought it, had a Kung Fu death grip on my 3GS. Same thing happened with the 4 and 5. They were sold but the 4S I had, I never wanted to part ways with it.

The US GS3 was a great phone and I loved it but I couldn't help but feel like, "I wish the processor was more powerful." Now I get that, a 1080p screen, .2" bigger viewable range. It looks almost exactly like an S3 but it has much better components. How is it incorrect to say it's essentially a beefed up S3?

People need to untangle their wires.
 

skratch77

macrumors 65816
Mar 20, 2013
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I don't understand peoples' lack of ability to comprehend what I said.

Where in my review did I say it was a S3-S or equivalent of Apple's S cycle phones?

And lastly, since when are Apple's S cycle phones bad? I actually think they're the most impressive of Apple's devices. I'm always happier with S phones. I sold my iPhone 3G like two months after I bought it, had a Kung Fu death grip on my 3GS. Same thing happened with the 4 and 5. They were sold but the 4S I had, I never wanted to part ways with it.

The US GS3 was a great phone and I loved it but I couldn't help but feel like, "I wish the processor was more powerful." Now I get that, a 1080p screen, .2" bigger viewable range. It looks almost exactly like an S3 but it has much better components. How is it incorrect to say it's essentially a beefed up S3?

People need to untangle their wires.

you do realize that you are contradicting your self right?You say its not like an s upgrade and then say its a beefed up s3

(It looks almost exactly like an S3 but it has much better components. How is it incorrect to say it's essentially a beefed up S3?) is that not an S update on an iphone cycle?
 

Essenar

macrumors 6502a
Oct 24, 2008
553
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you do realize that you are contradicting your self right?You say its not like an s upgrade and then say its a beefed up s3

(It looks almost exactly like an S3 but it has much better components. How is it incorrect to say it's essentially a beefed up S3?) is that not an S update on an iphone cycle?

Don't pin your inaccurate and ignorant assumptions into me. If YOU incorrectly call a "beefed up GS3" the same as an Apple 'S' refresh, that's YOUR problem for not knowing how to comprehend, not me contradicting myself. I never ONCE made a statement that an S cycle phone was a beefed up iPhone and I never would.

You read what you WANTED to read and got all defensive because you have a simple way of thinking. That's not my problem.

A) An 'S' device is not a beefed up iPhone. 'S' cycle devices are, in my view, refreshes to maintain viability of a changing market for an iPhone design. Like a MacBook Pro with the same screen, shell and operating system that has an upgrade in ram and an SSD. It's essentially the SAME experience but with upgraded components to make it a viable option a year later.

B) A 'beefed up S3' is a phone that, at first glance, looks almost exactly like its previous version, but every component has been "beefed up". Are you going to sit there and DENY that the S4 borrowed a lot of its design from the S3? The similarities between the S3 and S4 are WAY more apparent than the S to S2 or the S2 to the S3. And this is NOT a bad thing either. Even the display was beefed up, both in size and resolution, but the housing remains within the same size/dimensions.

C) We're in an age of smart phones where ALL new phones are going to be like this. They've matured. There's no more new land to conquer. 5 inches with HD resolution, a quad core processor, lots of ram, lots of storage and a nice camera. That's the bar, you either meet it or join RIM. If you don't like people saying your fancy new phone is a beefed up version of last year's phone, go buy a time machine and go back to 2007 where all your innovation and new experiences are waiting for you. Me and the rest of 2013 and beyond are entering the era of yearly models.
 

skratch77

macrumors 65816
Mar 20, 2013
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Don't pin your inaccurate and ignorant assumptions into me. If YOU incorrectly call a "beefed up GS3" the same as an Apple 'S' refresh, that's YOUR problem for not knowing how to comprehend, not me contradicting myself. I never ONCE made a statement that an S cycle phone was a beefed up iPhone and I never would.

You read what you WANTED to read and got all defensive because you have a simple way of thinking. That's not my problem.

A) An 'S' device is not a beefed up iPhone. 'S' cycle devices are, in my view, refreshes to maintain viability of a changing market for an iPhone design. Like a MacBook Pro with the same screen, shell and operating system that has an upgrade in ram and an SSD. It's essentially the SAME experience but with upgraded components to make it a viable option a year later.

B) A 'beefed up S3' is a phone that, at first glance, looks almost exactly like its previous version, but every component has been "beefed up". Are you going to sit there and DENY that the S4 borrowed a lot of its design from the S3? The similarities between the S3 and S4 are WAY more apparent than the S to S2 or the S2 to the S3. And this is NOT a bad thing either. Even the display was beefed up, both in size and resolution, but the housing remains within the same size/dimensions.

C) We're in an age of smart phones where ALL new phones are going to be like this. They've matured. There's no more new land to conquer. 5 inches with HD resolution, a quad core processor, lots of ram, lots of storage and a nice camera. That's the bar, you either meet it or join RIM. If you don't like people saying your fancy new phone is a beefed up version of last year's phone, go buy a time machine and go back to 2007 where all your innovation and new experiences are waiting for you. Me and the rest of 2013 and beyond are entering the era of yearly models.

Im not on the defense Im sitting here laughing at how much time you just wasted typing a response and that fact still remains that your are still contradicting yourself
 

Fireblade

macrumors 65816
Jan 25, 2011
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The ppi is the same, however the display quality is much better on the iPhone 5. Its also a lot more power efficient despite being larger.

I can't say anything about the quality, I just was asked about one thing that is the same related to iP 4 and 5.
 

Lindsford

macrumors 6502a
Mar 14, 2012
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There is a person where I work that asked me for $100 and my 16GB iPhone 5 for a brand new Note 2... Is that a good deal?

I would say an even trade would be fair, but in the long run iPhone will always hold it's value better and the fact you can have warranty service by an actual physical local location is nice.

I've seen Note 2s go for $400-450 on CL and iPhone about the same if not a little higher.
 

Lindsford

macrumors 6502a
Mar 14, 2012
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I'm gonna try the G4 better...

gs4 or note 2 are both power houses. Note 2 is too big for my taste, though i got to play with a family members for a good while and can see the appeal for those who use it for phablet/pda functionality more then a phone.
 

Sdahe

macrumors 68000
Oct 26, 2007
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San Juan, PR
gs4 or note 2 are both power houses. Note 2 is too big for my taste, though i got to play with a family members for a good while and can see the appeal for those who use it for phablet/pda functionality more then a phone.
I also think is too big.. that's why I'm going for the S4.. it's right in the middle in terms of size
 

2298754

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Jun 21, 2010
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There is a person where I work that asked me for $100 and my 16GB iPhone 5 for a brand new Note 2... Is that a good deal?

BS trade IMO. there's people in Boston willing to even trade iPhone5 for Note 2 all day long.
 
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