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cube

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Yeah I can see where a removable battery would be nice in your case. Do you have the option during the day to connect to a wall outlet or car charger? I've found the 50% in 30 minutes on my Note 4 to be an insane function if I need the juice, which I rarely do. Also have you tried the power saver modes on the S5? I'm assuming they are similar to the ones on the Note 4, which are crazy. I think with the ultimate power saver is supposed to last all day with 10% or something insane like that. I guess my point is there are solutions which may work for some.

It is a drag to recharge during the day, I like to keep the phone in my pocket.

I activated that ultra power saver once while using the S5 as a smartphone and I was like "WTF?". I have to try it again when it will go in the pocket for a long while, to see if it is usable then.
 
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spinedoc77

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It isnt because of that. Ill take a plastic back over aluminum everyday. It felt pretty good to me and asside from the first iPhone, ive never had another aluminum back phone since, ...but i will buy the GS6 unless it has someting that is revealed to be a deal breaker. I dont prefer the metal back but ill just have a case on it at all times.

I had pretty good luck with a skinomi full body skin on my iPhone 6+, it allowed me to keep it naked with no worries about scratches or scuffs. It wouldn't do squat for dents and drops, but I don't think a plastic backed phone would survive any better. I must say even though I didn't keep the 6+, that sleek feeling was pretty incredible. I'm a self admitted narcissist when it comes to the "feel" of a phone similar to a watch and freely admit spending a lot of money on my watch just for that nice metallic heavy feeling. It's a shame iOS is so primitive, or I would have kept it because of the beautiful hardware.

I love my Note 4, but dream about how nice it would have been with a metal or glass back and thinner than it currently is.
 

cube

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This confuses me as well. Apple has metallic backed phones, no removable battery, no sd card, nano sims, etc and still sells millions upon millions.

Also what's the deal with nano sims, why are some against them? Does it matter? You stick it in and forget about it.

Apple sells to people who drink the Kool-aid have simple needs, and don't think much about it.

There are people who have more than one phone and repurpose phones. The SIM mess is a drag and a waste of time.
 

spinedoc77

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Apple sells to people who drink the Kool-aid have simple needs, and don't think much about it.

There are people who have more than one phone and repurpose phones. The SIM mess is a drag and a waste of time.

Well, the opposite can be said as well. Micro SIM's make it hard for those who have more than one phone if the other phone they have uses a nano sim, the Nexus 6 comes to mind.

I was in the same boat as you when I used to swap between a Note 3 and an iPhone 5s, but $2 on Amazon solved my issue with a sim adapter.
 

Jibbajabba

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I don't think that many consumers care about removable battery, personally I could care less. The trend has been definitely going towards integrated batteries and there doesn't seem to be any public outcry. As for nanosim I'm not sure why anyone would care.


I always had spare batteries and never used them. Got chargers everywhere, home next to bed, desk, living room, car, office and a powerblock for traveling. Can't remember the last time my charge went below 80%.

Heck even my laptop has a charging port which stays on even if the laptop is powered off
 

spinedoc77

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I always had spare batteries and never used them. Got chargers everywhere, home next to bed, desk, living room, car, office and a powerblock for traveling. Can't remember the last time my charge went below 80%.

Heck even my laptop has a charging port which stays on even if the laptop is powered off

That plus the power and ultra power saving mode that Samsung uses. 10% will get you through hours if not a day of use in ultra power saver mode.
 

ravenvii

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I didn't bother reading but what's wrong with them?

I didn't see much fanboyism in the comments.

Just one example:

Random Samsung Fanboy said:
Uh-oh! Just a few more days until the #KingofAndroid unveils #TheNextGALAXY! I am more than excited!

#TheNextGALAXY will pack Samsung's latest and greatest hardware, which will be one.. no.. two steps above the competition!

Hurry up, Samsung, and take my money!

#Samsung #KingofAndroid #GalaxyS6 #Android #TeamSamsung
 

skratch77

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Just one example:

Samsung is the king of android though!
samsung also has the best screens and is one whole year ahead of its competitors in CPU and is the only company making 14nm fin fet big little a57 arm cores.

Have you not seen the benchmarks of the gs6 phone?
Samsung galaxies have always been leading edge in tech specs

The funny part is the gs4 and gs5 hype did nothing for me but this new phone has my attention big time.the phone so far is getting really good responce and people are dying to see it
 
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Vegastouch

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I had pretty good luck with a skinomi full body skin on my iPhone 6+, it allowed me to keep it naked with no worries about scratches or scuffs. It wouldn't do squat for dents and drops, but I don't think a plastic backed phone would survive any better. I must say even though I didn't keep the 6+, that sleek feeling was pretty incredible. I'm a self admitted narcissist when it comes to the "feel" of a phone similar to a watch and freely admit spending a lot of money on my watch just for that nice metallic heavy feeling. It's a shame iOS is so primitive, or I would have kept it because of the beautiful hardware.

I love my Note 4, but dream about how nice it would have been with a metal or glass back and thinner than it currently is.

We are opposites there. The feel isnt that big a deal to me and I don't dream about them,lol. Its a phone that I will have 1-1.5 years. I like being able to change the back cover if I want for a measley $5.
Glass backs IMO are garbage and a break waiting to happen.
I don't wear a watch so I'm not interested in those.
 
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cube

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Well, the opposite can be said as well. Micro SIM's make it hard for those who have more than one phone if the other phone they have uses a nano sim, the Nexus 6 comes to mind.

I was in the same boat as you when I used to swap between a Note 3 and an iPhone 5s, but $2 on Amazon solved my issue with a sim adapter.

If people have nanosim, let them get an adapter if they get another one with microsim, don't bother the ones with microsim to get a new card.

All this bending over to Apple is really annoying.
 

MRU

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Galaxy S6

I really don't care about the specs on this one - the thing that will make me decide to buy or pass will be the 'touchwiz' rumours. If they have finally listened to the critiscm it deserves at times.

I want to see a Touchwiz whose 'memory' footprint whilst running is akin to stock androids. (sense 5/6 proves that this is possible).

I want to see a Touchwiz that from top to bottom has had an aesthetic overhaul. One where design language is finally consistent.

Lollipop on S5/Note 4 fixes a few stock apps but design language is still inconsistent. Icons are still lingering remains of 2008/9. Simple little touches like when setting time for Clock, despite everything else having material design the number boxes you use are again lingering remains of older inconsistent design. As always Samsung Touchwiz is like an OS designed by committee - a team who barely communicate and all want their own little bit of design to mark territory, like a bunch of dogs peeing battling to mark territory on a tree - rather than one team of designers focused on delivering a masterpiece from the same hymn sheet.

This has been Samsung's biggest curse for me. Whilst I like enhancements/options Touchwiz offers over stock android it has under the hood remained bloated. Sure dropping a few apps / making them optional is nice (they do this currently on the Alpha unlocked model) but despite it having slightly (and we are talking slightly) smaller 'storage' footprint - it's actual 'memory' footprint whilst operating is still as bloated as the S5 is and as any other Samsung Touchwiz device has been.

So whilst indeed Samsung may reduce / debloat the storage / system footprint. This is not good enough, we need to see major reworking underneath the hood to bring its memory footprint down. And this is where I am most skeptical and at this point have more belief that it wont change - it will remain. They have to prove me wrong this year if they want me to be interested in the S6.

They need an overhaul, not what I fear - which is 'the emperors new clothes' of a device for me to get excited about it.
 

Fernandez21

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If people have nanosim, let them get an adapter if they get another one with microsim, don't bother the ones with microsim to get a new card.

All this bending over to Apple is really annoying.

It's not bending over for Apple, it's progress. Nanosims are the new standard and soon all phones will use them, Apple was just the first since they designed and proposed it. And it was going to be changed anyway, it was between apples design and nokias.
 

cube

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It's not bending over for Apple, it's progress. Nanosims are the new standard and soon all phones will use them, Apple was just the first since they designed and proposed it. And it was going to be changed anyway, it was between apples design and nokias.

Why do I need a nanosim in a huge phone? Where's the progress?
 

Abazigal

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I really don't care about the specs on this one - the thing that will make me decide to buy or pass will be the 'touchwiz' rumours. If they have finally listened to the critiscm it deserves at times.

I want to see a Touchwiz whose 'memory' footprint whilst running is akin to stock androids. (sense 5/6 proves that this is possible).

I want to see a Touchwiz that from top to bottom has had an aesthetic overhaul. One where design language is finally consistent.

Lollipop on S5/Note 4 fixes a few stock apps but design language is still inconsistent. Icons are still lingering remains of 2008/9. Simple little touches like when setting time for Clock, despite everything else having material design the number boxes you use are again lingering remains of older inconsistent design. As always Samsung Touchwiz is like an OS designed by committee - a team who barely communicate and all want their own little bit of design to mark territory, like a bunch of dogs peeing battling to mark territory on a tree - rather than one team of designers focused on delivering a masterpiece from the same hymn sheet.

This has been Samsung's biggest curse for me. Whilst I like enhancements/options Touchwiz offers over stock android it has under the hood remained bloated. Sure dropping a few apps / making them optional is nice (they do this currently on the Alpha unlocked model) but despite it having slightly (and we are talking slightly) smaller 'storage' footprint - it's actual 'memory' footprint whilst operating is still as bloated as the S5 is and as any other Samsung Touchwiz device has been.

So whilst indeed Samsung may reduce / debloat the storage / system footprint. This is not good enough, we need to see major reworking underneath the hood to bring its memory footprint down. And this is where I am most skeptical and at this point have more belief that it wont change - it will remain. They have to prove me wrong this year if they want me to be interested in the S6.

They need an overhaul, not what I fear - which is 'the emperors new clothes' of a device for me to get excited about it.

Sense didn't offer a whole lot of added functionality either, barring from a glorified RSS reader function on the main screen. Is it possible to retain Touchwiz's glut of features while keeping operation smooth? If so, I don't think stock Android would have remained as bare-bones as it currently is.
 

maflynn

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Why do I need a nanosim in a huge phone? Where's the progress?

Perhaps because the space can be used for other components. I'm not disagreeing with you, and apple has been leading the charge in shrinking the sims (and making their phones thinner). I don't really see the need to shrink the size of the sims down.
 

The Game 161

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Spare batteries are important to me at times. Not often I need to change but it's just good to have
 

MRU

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Sense didn't offer a whole lot of added functionality either, barring from a glorified RSS reader function on the main screen. Is it possible to retain Touchwiz's glut of features while keeping operation smooth? If so, I don't think stock Android would have remained as bare-bones as it currently is.


Sense has a huge number of improvements over stock android and I'm not talking just about blinkfeed.

It's the plethora of little things like ability to change homescreen and lock screen wallpapers independently. Ability to add folders in your app drawer and customise order. Ability to swipe between tabs on things like contacts/dialer.

These are simple but essential features and ones that don't add to the footprint but enhance consumer use.

Re: de bloating memory wise, I'm not talking about extra apps such as S-Note, Chat-on and such as they on the Galaxy Alpha remain optional - however it's the silly services that run even without these apps like ANT Radio, Samsung Print and many more which seemingly do nothing (as many of the debloated Roms only go to prove that you seemingly lose no additional functionality by removing them) and yet they are there even with nothing else running, and in process eating up memory for nothing but essentially harming performance rather than enhancing it.... These under the hood legacy services that go back 7 years or more are the things Samsung NEED to jettison.

Keep all the standard Launcher extra's as other launchers prove you can have them without bloating your system or memory footprint, and ditch all the detritus that is not needed.

There is NO reason why without any apps open your memory footprint should be upto 1.4gb on a 2gb device. This is without S-health open or S-Planner open etc. Just the launcher and background services (a lot of them legacy).

Sense and Stock manage to do the same with around 500-600mb.

Samsung need to get its memory footprint down to the same. That way we will finally see the performance gains from these new processors and gpu's. In the past few years Samsung have allowed raw power to muscle through the bloated detritus of an OS resulting in performance which can be sub-par ( app refreshing/reloading on the S5 for example) rather than clean out the clutter and give folks a truly exemplary performing handset that does the hardware inside justice.

If anything the Tizen Z1 goes to prove that if they did do what I am suggesting performance would be amazing. The Tizen based Z1 despite having significantly less ram and processing power than Samsung's android flagships is very smooth and fast OS offering many of the features of Touchwiz launcher itself. Now imagine Touchwiz as optimised running on powerhorse CPU and GPUs and then we truly would have something to smile about.

Alas, I fear Samsung will like the Galaxy Alpha, merely debloat it's storage footprint by making extra apps optional - rather than all the detritus that resides under the hood that we don't see - but certainly feel.
 

gotluck

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Completely spot on ^ it is the always running services that bother me the most.

The preloaded apps end up leaving less user accessible storage and that is annoying if you don't use them, but my issue is with the services running in ram, exactly as you said.
 

skratch77

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Here is lolliopop on a gs5.I have about 200mb of disabled stock apps like amazon,nfl,blurred checkout etc.

The system foot print is smaller and samsung just needs to debloat stock forced apps and it looks like it's doing just that.
 

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skratch77

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Here are some of the junk apps that I don't want on my cell.
 

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