I just don't think or maybe it is just a gut feeling but I doubt it will perform as well as the Alpha.
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Color me confused because what is the S5 going for?
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I just don't think or maybe it is just a gut feeling but I doubt it will perform as well as the Alpha.
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Color me confused because what is the S5 going for?
Right now it is going for $499 on Verizon.
Oh, and that is off-contract pricing, if that is what is confusing you.
this thread makes me sad about the galaxy s6. touchwiz sucks, the bloatware apps suck.
i'm thinking of waiting for the one plus two announcement before buying a new phone...
i'm thinking of waiting for the one plus two announcement before buying a new phone...
Last time I check at Best Buy for off contract pricing on the S5 it was substantially higher than $499 and that was for 16gb.
BestBuy always has off-contract price higher than carriers. GS5 is $549 at AT&T online store when BestBuy still lists $679.
best buy canada doesn't sell phones for wind mobile, which is like tmobile in us
so screw best buy.
so screw best buy.
Edge was tested with GNL. The choice apps you chose for the Edge will not work when chosen. That from XDA, he didn't try using Nova or other launchers yet.
Smart man.
Samsung can pretty it up as much as they want but their bloatware, resource management, and Touchwiz kill any idea of ever owning another Samsung phone. Sucks because those phones are dead sexy hardware wise. Software means more to me.
I went into a T-Mobile store earlier today and they had a demo model of the S6. It's a sweet, sweet phone and the camera is incredible. I took multiple pics with both the S6 and iPhone 6 Plus and the S6 was clearly better.
This may be the first phone in a while that may take me away from the iPhone. IDK or I may just use both. We'll see.
This may be the first phone in a while that may take me away from the iPhone. IDK or I may just use both. We'll see.
There are loads of comments about bloatware on this thread, I have asked this question before and never got an answer. What does bloatware do to the phone that affects it's performance that much that it will stop people buying the phone? All apps can be hidden so what is the big deal. Can some one please point it out to me. It is a serious question.
I've posted an answer to this a lot of times in this thread
Surplus apps that can be disabled or uninstalled are not the issue.
It's the hidden services and legacy that is underneath the hood on Touchwiz that contributes greatly to the big system overhead memory wise. A lot of these legacy apps and services actually have no correlation to apps available that once needed them.
Under the hood you have at least 50-60 direct Samsung services that run away whether you have uninstalled Samsung apps or not.
Much of these are from 2007!! Samsung Push for example was once used when ChatOn was their primary messaging app and yet still is there chugging away despite ChatOn being officially dead.
All this utter detritus under the hood contributes to why Samsung devices require 3x as much system ram allocated compared to a stock device or even HTC device.
These services are the ones that the makers of debloated Roms target and I've seen Roms where over 100 files like these were removed and it didn't affect the existing apps at all - which begs the question, why are they even there?
The answer is simple Samsung hasn't cleaned it's underwear in 7 years. Instead it simply puts on a new shiny pair over the top of the old one. Leaving crusty stained poop that should have no place in a modern OS still lurking.
This is the bloatware I object to. This is the bloatware you can not remove without rooting or running a custom rom.
Whether Samsung have one note or S-Voice on is not an issue, but this detritus hidden beneath is.
HTC were once heading in the same direction with Sense, however with the launch of the M7 they literally built their OS Sense 5 back up from a clean slate. They dumped every old rubbish under the hood. The result is Sense 5,6 & 7 run with about 400-500mb of system ram.
My Moto X 2014 runs around 250-350mb of system ram
Compare that to Samsung which routinely can have a device running at 1.4-1.8gb without any other app open .. You have a clear indication of what wearing dirty knickers does.
This is where Samsung needed to clear the slate instead of relying on bigger processors and faster ram each year to muscle through the septic tank beneath.
Sadly S6 & S6 Edge appear to have same stuff under the hood - Samsung has given Touchwiz another new shiny exterior - but again still same crusty pants below.
Now that doesn't mean the S6 & S6 Edge won't be fast - because clearly they are super fast processors and memory will power through the clogged drain without issue.
But devices like the S5 with 2gb did suffer - whilst the GUI is smooth enough at 95% of the time - after you open more than half a dozen apps - the S5 will often have to refresh the content of the older app aggressivly. Simply because of the OS without anything open sat at 1.4gb of 1.76gb available. Now imagine if they have brought the OS overhead down to 500-700mb - that would have left 5-6X as much free ram to users to keep apps open without having to refresh.
The S6 should be OK with 3GB - despite the overhead for system simply because that extra 1gb should fix a lot of issue the S5 had.
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There is a huge amount of self-delusion floating around here by kool aid drinkers.
I played with the S6 and S6 Edge in store yesterday. Those things kick ass.
- The S6 is a bit boring in visual design but feels great in the hand and interface is very snappy.
- The S6 Edge is gorgeous, feels even better in hand and the only complaint with it can be that Samsung did not give the full "edge functionality" that is available on the Note Edge.
The glass back I dont see the point of: it is just another point of failure to go wrong - and Samsung does not offer the extensive netowrk of own stores/repair locations as Apple, so IMO its a bad idea. I would have been happy with the exact same back made of high quality plastic that is on the Note 4 - would not detract from the feel of the device at all.
The discussion of "Touchwiz" is just babble from reviewers that have no technical insight and nothing new to say: these two devices are extremely snappy. End of.
Bottom line anyway: these are monster devices and will sell like hot cakes, whether the haters like it or not, whether the biased reviewers like it or not. Its a benchmark device and a milestone in smartphone history.
I played with the S6 and S6 Edge in store yesterday. Those things kick ass.
- The S6 is a bit boring in visual design but feels great in the hand and interface is very snappy.
- The S6 Edge is gorgeous, feels even better in hand and the only complaint with it can be that Samsung did not give the full "edge functionality" that is available on the Note Edge.
The glass back I dont see the point of: it is just another point of failure to go wrong - and Samsung does not offer the extensive netowrk of own stores/repair locations as Apple, so IMO its a bad idea. I would have been happy with the exact same back made of high quality plastic that is on the Note 4 - would not detract from the feel of the device at all.
The discussion of "Touchwiz" is just babble from reviewers that have no technical insight and nothing new to say: these two devices are extremely snappy. End of.
Bottom line anyway: these are monster devices and will sell like hot cakes, whether the haters like it or not, whether the biased reviewers like it or not. Its a benchmark device and a milestone in smartphone history.
Big pre order day today! Fess up! Who's preordering?
I'm very very tempted!
Also when the heck are the review embargos gonna be lifted? Android authority posted theirs... Where's everyone else's?
I'm very very tempted!
Also when the heck are the review embargos gonna be lifted? Android authority posted theirs... Where's everyone else's?
Care to clarify that statement with specific examples or did you purposely just decide to insult all members of this sub fora ?
Are you sure? On my GS 5, I only have about 4 our 5 Samsung's services running in background after I disabled most of apps I don't use. 2 of them that I am using (remote control and S-Health). Facebook and Amazon Kindle are the ones that hog most of the memory and run at background.
Big pre order day today! Fess up! Who's preordering?
I'm very very tempted!
Also when the heck are the review embargos gonna be lifted? Android authority posted theirs... Where's everyone else's?
We have 3 upgrades on our family plan and will be getting 2 gs6s and 1 edge!
now picking the colors is the hard part.
Ant Radio
Ant+Plugins
BlurbCheckout
Hancom Office Viewer
HP Print Service Plugin
Live Weather
Samsung Link Platform
Samsung Link Platform Connection
Samsung Print Service Plugin
Samsung Push Service
Travel Wapaper
Quick Connect Interaction
Knox Notification manager
Security Manager Service
Samsung Backup
Nearby Services
Samsung Account
3D Tour Viewer
Active Applications service
active applications widget
Air Wake Up
All Share Fileshare Service
Ant Hall Service
Beacon Manager
Briefing
Car Mode
car mode remote
Com.samsung.android.app.watch
DiagMon Agent
Direct Share Manager
DSMLawmo
Elm Agent
Emergency Manager Serivce
FalshAnnotateSvc
Allshare FWUpgrade
GearVR service
gearVR shell
Key guard Wallpaper Update
Kies application BnR
KeyguardTestActivity
KLMS Agent
Mobile Print
My Places
MyScript resource manager
Nearby Devices
Nearby service
new Enrolment
Photo Note
Private Mode Service
RCP Components
Samsung cloud Data Relay
Samsung Calendar SyncAdapter
Samsung Billing
Samsung Cloud Quota
Samsung Content Agent
Samsung MirrorLink 1.1
Samsung SyncAdapters
SapaMonitor
To name just a few....
Galaxy S6
Whilst some may be of use to certain users, the reality is that a simple optional install for things like Ant services if you are using health stuff rather than forcing all users to have them and as current they can not be uninstalled.
A lot of the services listed there can be deleted with root without actually effecting the ability of the phone and its stock apps from functioning as they are supposed to.
The debloated Roms prove this.
I'm not a rom maker - I just listed ones in my app drawer, and i ignored many of them in the list. So whilst my list may have a few needed ones - the point was to show how much there is under the hood that could be removed or made optional.
Whilst some may be of use to certain users, the reality is that a simple optional install for things like Ant services if you are using health stuff rather than forcing all users to have them and as current they can not be uninstalled.
A lot of the services listed there can be deleted with root without actually effecting the ability of the phone and its stock apps from functioning as they are supposed to.
The debloated Roms prove this.
I'm not a rom maker - I just listed ones in my app drawer, and i ignored many of them in the list. So whilst my list may have a few needed ones - the point was to show how much there is under the hood that could be removed or made optional.