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I think samsung gets a bad rap because they were THE tinkerers device before knox on the GS4 (which was sprung in an OTA too), they did a complete about face

and thanks for the knowledge

its hard to tell these power user types that want full access not to buy the best hardware though :p
The best of both worlds would be if they was a GPE edition for Samsung phones! I would be all over a GPE S6!
 
Correct. We use that in combination so there are several factors involved in mobile device security. If one factor gets compromised then at least the other factors can kick in until the alert process can disable the device.

I don't know why Knox gets a bad rap. Its not like we can hack our cars electrical system or the BIOS in our computers without voiding out warranty either.
There are some companies like HTC that allow a process to unlock their phones. Samsung chose not to do this. Easy fix is to not buy their phones if this is a requirement.


Its not the knox environment some people have issue with.

It's the tying of your 'consumer hardware warranty' to it that upsets & inchonvieneces people.

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The best of both worlds would be if they was a GPE edition for Samsung phones! I would be all over a GPE S6!

That would be sweet ...
 
Its not the knox environment people have issue with.

It's the tying of your 'consumer hardware warranty' to it that upsets & inchonvieneces people.
I agree with you on that. But I have also read where people still get warranty service on Know tripped phones too.
 
I agree with you on that. But I have also read where people still get warranty service on Know tripped phones too.

Yeah it seems intermittent. But the mere fact they can refuse is still wrong - especially if you recall a good while back I did an emergency recovery in Kies and it tripped my Knox flag and had not rooted or run any custom roms or anything.

Now it didn't effect me because i sold the phone - but if I needed to avail of hardware service I could have been refused - and in the end did nothing but used their own software. If they refused service - how could I prove them different.

That seems wrong.
 
Yeah it seems intermittent. But the mere fact they can refuse is still wrong - especially if you recall a good while back I did an emergency recovery in Kies and it tripped my Knox flag and had not rooted or run any custom roms or anything.

Now it didn't effect me because i sold the phone - but if I needed to avail of hardware service I could have been refused - and in the end did nothing but used their own software. If they refused service - how could I prove them different.

That seems wrong.

That does seem wrong to me too!
 
Can't wait until next week. Finally getting the demo GS6 and GS6 Edge in my store. Already played with the GS6 last week. Awesome phone. You guys are going to love it. I'm going for the Edge tho. The perks of working in the mobile dept at BB. Get to play with all the new phones #

I suspect you will see the demos before Friday. Do you set up the smartphones in the mobile dept?
 
Had a job interview today, and afterwards went to the Samsung Galaxy Studio in Soho. Got a really chatty salesperson. He told me that the store won't have the phone unlocked (yes, I know epicrayban confirmed this, but I didn't hurt to ask again), but B&H Photo and Best Buy will. He said B&H should have it day one, but it will most likely be the international version. He also told me the US was only getting the Black, Gold, and White version - I hope he's wrong about that because I know some people had their hearts set on getting that one.
 
Had a job interview today, and afterwards went to the Samsung Galaxy Studio in Soho. Got a really chatty salesperson. He told me that the store won't have the phone unlocked (yes, I know epicrayban confirmed this, but I didn't hurt to ask again), but B&H Photo and Best Buy will. He said B&H should have it day one, but it will most likely be the international version. He also told me the US was only getting the Black, Gold, and White version - I hope he's wrong about that because I know some people had their hearts set on getting that one.

Hope you get the job!

Does anyone know if the international version will work on Tmobile's voice and data (including HSPA+ and LTE, etc.)?
 
Had a job interview today, and afterwards went to the Samsung Galaxy Studio in Soho. Got a really chatty salesperson. He told me that the store won't have the phone unlocked (yes, I know epicrayban confirmed this, but I didn't hurt to ask again), but B&H Photo and Best Buy will. He said B&H should have it day one, but it will most likely be the international version. He also told me the US was only getting the Black, Gold, and White version - I hope he's wrong about that because I know some people had their hearts set on getting that one.
Thanks for the info! Good Luck on the job! :)
 
Hope you get the job!

Does anyone know if the international version will work on Tmobile's voice and data (including HSPA+ and LTE, etc.)?

Depends on the frequency. I think band 1,2, 3,4, 5,7, 12, 17, 21 are all supported by T-Mobile.
 
Hope you get the job!

Does anyone know if the international version will work on Tmobile's voice and data (including HSPA+ and LTE, etc.)?

Thanks for the info! Good Luck on the job! :)

Thanks guys! :D

epicrayban, I did tell the sales guy I had T-mobile and he said the International version may "mess with the 4G", but I think what nviz22 said is accurate.
 
I guess I'll just get this through T-Mobile officially. Hopefully they'll have the 64 gig option in gold.
 
OMG looks like my tweeting has been noticed. Gordon Kelly from Forbes has replied directly to my tweet and updated his article with also a statement from Samsung.

https://twitter.com/gordonkelly/status/580161012508323840

https://twitter.com/gordonkelly/status/580171063209959426

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/03/23/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-bloat/


His retraction / amendment was to basically link the mobile syrup response I sent him.

Samsung's response was the typical by the book (politician response) 'reviews/info were on pre-release software and issued whilst under embargo, we fail to comment' ....

Now here's another point that I am delighted proves something I raised in the HTC thread I mentioned in the last few days in regards to how so much stuff had been written about the M9 on pre-release software. I was challenged as to why HTC would allow reviewers to use a device on pre-release software. I mentioned they likely didn't have power of NDA whilst Samsung & Apple do.

SAMSUNG by their own official statement - has an embargo (basically a NDA) which I made the point of in that discussion that they generally (by their position as number 1 android OEM) have the power to enforce - whereas likes of HTC do not. What this also means is that there are definitely some 'information' about the device that is being concealed / held back from us. We will in turn find out once that embargo has been lifted if there really is an effort to debloat. Is Touchwiz still a ram whore. Or if I am right again and as I suspect under the hood Touchwiz is the same. (Which isn't an issue generally as long as the device has the power & ram to power on through it).

One thing is for certain, we are living in a world of marketing spin. Do not believe everything you read even if it's reposted on a dozen blogs. These sites need your traffic, their standards are poor in regards to checking facts and sources. They know people are looking or googling S6 / s6 Edge and their prime motivation for carrying these ill researched news posts is to drive traffic to their site. Put that into the back of your mind whenever you read good / bad or indifferent articles of a device pre-launch. And a general consensus (number of sites posting same thing) doesn't always equate to a truth. I can post at least 20 main news sites that have miss posted this 'all apps can be removed' story.

How many do you think will post retractions ? Very few because their aim wasn't about delivering reality it was about getting traffic. Which is evidently exactly what they achieved.

Furthermore most people went to these sites and read this misquoted articles; very few actually checked out the real XDA posters thread based on post count. The rabbid fanboy responses (comments section) in those news articles from people then declaring SAMSUNG were the new messiahs is stomach churning simply because blind faith seemed to win out over truth, research & objectivity.

Now let me make this clear. I want Samsung to have debloated their OS. I live in hope of it. But I also realise this is the company who has said this before, and never delivered. The company that has historically relied on power and ram to muscle through the detritus, and here we are with the most powerful CPU and Ram in a device. So despite Touchwiz being super fast and I believe it completely that this is so - I am still skeptical on the truth of the debloating. I suspect however that the muscle power of the S6 makes it mostly irrelevant as it does have the power and CPU, however I'm not willing to begin evangelising a second coming without proof. Something clearly even Samsung is hesitant to do given their 'official comment' when raised by a journalist who in turn only felt need to clarify after a certain MRU tackled them about it...

I will get my Emerald Green Edge but I won't be suckered into a world of make believe. My emerald green edge won't be from the land of OZ, and will not have magic powers bestowed upon it by some benevolent deity. It's a phone from Samsung and built on that companies past it will likely come with baggage - that I'm willing to accept due to the sexiness of the beast. Not because I want to indoctrinate myself into some brainwashed cult of mindless believers.

So please people... No more mindless believers. The phone will be great and so they should be as they're premium expensive. Let's just enjoy them foibles and all - don't put them in a holy shrine......

Wow, To come to think about it, a Emerald Green phone looks cool:cool:! For the first time ever, I am moving to Samsung (just as my second phone where I switch the sims out) and, I am starting to feel that the S6 is the hidden gem that I have not stumbled upon!

It has specs 4 years ahead of a iPhone and, once it is released, I can decide the truth about this phone. Hopefully, it will be a keeper !:)
 
Wow, To come to think about it, a Emerald Green phone looks cool:cool:! For the first time ever, I am moving to Samsung (just as my second phone where I switch the sims out) and, I am starting to feel that the S6 is the hidden gem that I have not stumbled upon!

It has specs 4 years ahead of a iPhone and, once it is released, I can decide the truth about this phone. Hopefully, it will be a keeper !:)

It may have specs ahead of an iPhone, but performance remains to be seen.
 
It may have specs ahead of an iPhone, but performance remains to be seen.

I guess it would not be fair to compare an ip6 Plus and Nexus 6 because they are phablets but that is what I am going to do because they are my top performers. On the android side for its size, my test will be the Moto X 2014 for performance. I don't have an ip6 but that would be interesting.

I think or at least hope the S6 is a top dog amongst rivals where applicable.
 
I think Samsung has a good product cycle with their flagship line, honestly.

S6 at the top of the year to compete with standard smartphone devices. This, ideally, helps start the year off right for their mobile division.

Then the Note 5 towards the end of the year, after all major players announce/release their flagships (presumably HTC, Motorola, LG, Sony, and Apple, of course) so they can compete on that end too.

Not a bad annual plan. As long as they keep pushing the boundaries.

It's better than what HTC is doing. They just look and sound like a mess.
 
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Wow, very long and extensive preview of the S6. 40+ mins long. I did not sit through the whole thing.

 
It may have specs ahead of an iPhone, but performance remains to be seen.

Comes to show that real world performance is the most important aspect. The iPhone 6/6+ perform really despite it's "lack of hardware." That is because it's not labour intensive with the apps running in the background as the Android devices are. iOS is meant to work to do the job and nothing more. Apple hardly sells innovation, rather they sell a fixed consistent experience. Reviewers can say all they want about lag and the like. In my real world experience with the Note 4, I have seen lag w/o animations with my messaging app freezing or hiccupping a lot. I expect lag free, but my iPhone 5C also hiccups at times, so 99% of the time of accuracy is a reasonable expectation with a 5C if anything. With the Note 4, it's more like 85-88% lol.
 
Wow, very long and extensive preview of the S6. 40+ mins long. I did not sit through the whole thing.

YouTube: video


9 hours of use and 67% of battery remaining that's pretty good.

At the end of that 44 mins presentation he finished with 55% still pretty nice.

What i'm only waiting for to make a purchase decision is if im gonna be able to uninstall all my cell provider bloatware....TELCEL
 
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WOW, I didn't realize the gold one was so freakin nice looking in that video. I can't wait for the Note 5 now.
 
I've never had this problem but for the first time I don't know what color to get.they all look good and I can't decide lol
 
The reviews are pouring in....

Can't wait to get my hands on one tomorrow at BB.


Our Geekbench 3 scores suggest the Galaxy S6 is a massive 20% more powerful than rival flagships such as the HTC One M9. It scores upwards of 5200 points, where you’ll top out at about 4400 points from a Snapdragon 810 CPU - at least from our testing so far. This is incredible power, outdoing some laptops.
Read more at http://www.stuff.tv/samsung/galaxy-s6/review#lR4fj2uEbPsXTfQB.99

http://www.stuff.tv/samsung/galaxy-s6/review
 
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