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Ohh your right it was in my update a couple of days back and did not notice :

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Thanks to carrier influence, I will be behind on the display scaling fix and the ultra sensitivity fix.
 
One thing that really surprised me is the monthly security patches that is released on time with the Samsung S7 series. I was going to hop back to an Iphone just because the security issues never get patched and left me with crappy feeling i pay hundreds for a device and no support at all.

What's also amazing is the EVS that is part of the hardware used on T-Mobile - and the other party you are calling doesn't even have to have that to benefit. Hardware wise the S7Edge is superior to the iPhone. I'm so glad i chose the S7E.

The only biggest issue I have is there are ZERO glass screen protectors (even the film ones) that are good enough - all of the suck and there's just no way to protect that curved screen without sacrificing a full case (either you have a case or the screen protector because you can't have both and not have the protector peel off/not fit).

Waiting for Zagg's glass version which is MIA no release date at the moment. This S7Edge really is a fantastic smartphone.
 
So has the S7 done as well as expected? Sounds like it has

Looks like it's selling better than the s6. Although I'm not sure how much of that is affected by the promos like the vr and especially the carriers offering bogo free basically at launch. But it looks to be a good start.
 
Thanks to carrier influence, I will be behind on the display scaling fix and the ultra sensitivity fix.
That sucks! This is where Samsung needs to do better and by pass carriers much like Apple and send security and feature updates straight to their phones.
 
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One thing that really surprised me is the monthly security patches that is released on time with the Samsung S7 series. I was going to hop back to an Iphone just because the security issues never get patched and left me with crappy feeling i pay hundreds for a device and no support at all.

What's also amazing is the EVS that is part of the hardware used on T-Mobile - and the other party you are calling doesn't even have to have that to benefit. Hardware wise the S7Edge is superior to the iPhone. I'm so glad i chose the S7E.

The only biggest issue I have is there are ZERO glass screen protectors (even the film ones) that are good enough - all of the suck and there's just no way to protect that curved screen without sacrificing a full case (either you have a case or the screen protector because you can't have both and not have the protector peel off/not fit).

Waiting for Zagg's glass version which is MIA no release date at the moment. This S7Edge really is a fantastic smartphone.
I have both film (front and back) and case no problem, glass screen seems a problem esp with case
 
That sucks! This is where Samsung needs to do better and by pass carriers much like Apple and send security and feature updates straight to their phones.

Yeah who knows how their contracts are drawn up and negotiated. I wonder if it's done per year as they release devices? Or is it a mutli-year thing?

Either way, the next chance Samsung can, they ought to start stretching their clout. Who knows how tough the carriers will be though with their stance. Tricky field, but I hope they get it done.

Didn't ATT reject the HTC 10? I mean, Samsung can't afford something like that to happen. A big part of their success and reach is because they're available from every carrier. Maybe this is why HTC releases unlocked devices. They know they won't be in every carrier store so they gotta get it out somehow (Samsung should still release an unlocked version though!).

We shall see if they can come through here in the next year or so. I wouldn't hold my breath though. Luckily Tmobile is the least offensive.
 
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Didn't ATT reject the HTC 10? I mean, Samsung can't afford something like that to happen. A big part of their success and reach is because they're available from every carrier.

I disagree, Samsung has the momentum and the money. What the hell is AT&T going to sell besides iPhones if they don't have Samsung? And I do think if Samsung put out their own store (ala Google and HTC) in the US, with payment plans, support, warranty, etc, people would use it. They know the brand enough and have loyal users now.

This is the time when Samsung needs to tell AT&T and Verizon..'we are selling an unlocked phone in the US without your branding or bloat. You can sell that in your store too with your payment plans. But we don't need your subsidies any more, and your crapware is hurting out bottom line. If you don't want to sell it fine, we are setting up our own distribution channel."
 
Yeah who knows how their contracts are drawn up and negotiated. I wonder if it's done per year as they release devices? Or is it a mutli-year thing?

Either way, the next chance Samsung can, they ought to start stretching their clout. Who knows how tough the carriers will be though with their stance. Tricky field, but I hope they get it done.

Didn't ATT reject the HTC 10? I mean, Samsung can't afford something like that to happen. A big part of their success and reach is because they're available from every carrier. Maybe this is why HTC releases unlocked devices. They know they won't be in every carrier store so they gotta get it out somehow (Samsung should still release an unlocked version though!).

We shall see if they can come through here in the next year or so. I wouldn't hold my breath though. Luckily Tmobile is the least offensive.
I agree. Hell who knows maybe Samsung has been down this road and met a dead end with the carriers. But they need to start to use their influence to gain more control. They can do this by selling unlocked devices through their website. Not sure if they have clauses in their carrier contracts that prevent that or not. But that is a nice first step.
But I am sure Samsung has a ton of feedback related to updates being a negative thing for them.
They need to take more action to either bypass carriers or get drag them along faster.

I don't think Samsung can take a carrier NOT having one of their phones on their network...but that is a two edged sword as well. Can AT&T tell their customers they decided not to carry the latest Galaxy S7 and S7 edge? When all the other carriers with be advertising the hell out of the fact that THEY carry the latest Galaxy S7 phones. I think it will end up hurting both of them in that instance.

Since Samsung is the biggest Android phone maker...they need to exercise more of that clout to get more control and get updates out faster.
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I disagree, Samsung has the momentum and the money. What the hell is AT&T going to sell besides iPhones if they don't have Samsung? And I do think if Samsung put out their own store (ala Google and HTC) in the US, with payment plans, support, warranty, etc, people would use it. They know the brand enough and have loyal users now.

This is the time when Samsung needs to tell AT&T and Verizon..'we are selling an unlocked phone in the US without your branding or bloat. You can sell that in your store too with your payment plans. But we don't need your subsidies any more, and your crapware is hurting out bottom line. If you don't want to sell it fine, we are setting up our own distribution channel."
See i don't think they can go that far. They can come close but they can't make enemies out of the carriers and take a hardline stance like that. They need to make the carriers willing partners......

I am sure there has been tons of these types of negotiations presently and in the past. But i don't think Samsung is in the position that Apple is as far as sales figures. Apple sells a LOT of iphones and was smart enough to get a great deal and has the clout to continue it. Now if Samsung sold 60 or 70 million Galaxy phones then they could possible do what you are saying but not until they gain more sales.
 
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ahhh you know that does not show SOT. It shows useage.......not the same thing.

Doesn't matter. Google it, it's not screen on time. It's up time. Anytime the phone awakes for anything: cell signal, email sync, etc.

It's sleep vs awake.

That has nothing to do with it. Show me where your Screen On Time (SOT) is for your iphone?
It is a common misconception from iphone users. That screenshot shows your phone useage. But IOS doesn't show you the SOT. SOT is different as it is just how time the screen has been on. The display is the biggest power consumer on a phone.
Just for fun I decided to test what the difference would be. Didn't use the phone at all for 24h so the apps listed would only be for the current charge. The sum of all apps on-screen times equals 11h 17 min, only 20 minutes shorter than the usage stated.
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Just for fun I decided to test what the difference would be. Didn't use the phone at all for 24h so the apps listed would only be for the current charge. The sum of all apps on-screen times equals 11h 17 min, only 20 minutes shorter than the usage stated.
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yep....that is usage.......but can you show me Screen On Time SOT? Usage is not the same as SOT...... It doesn't show it in realtime. I suppose you can wait 24 hours...write all the times down and get out a calculator and add them all up. that may or may not be accurate. But IOS does not provide a realtime way to get SOT. There are work arounds but they are not realtime or convenient to use.
 
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See i don't think they can go that far. They can come close but they can't make enemies out of the carriers and take a hardline stance like that. They need to make the carriers willing partners......

Imho, carriers should be willing. If they don't sell Samsung in their store, with their payment plans, then people buy unlocked from Samsung, go to whoever is the cheapest. And there are far more options than just AT&T or Verizon out there. I personally think they need Samsung more than Samsung needs them.
 
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Imho, carriers should be willing. If they don't sell Samsung in their store, with their payment plans, then people buy unlocked from Samsung, go to whoever is the cheapest. And there are far more options than just the AT&T or Verizon out there. I personally think they need Samsung more than Samsung needs them.
I see your point. But IMHO Samsung is just not there sales number wise. Maybe if things keep going well for them they might be...but not yet.
 
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yep....that is usage.......but can you show me Screen On Time SOT? Usage is not the same as SOT...... It doesn't show it in realtime. I suppose you can wait 24 hours...write all the times down and get out a calculator and add them all up. that may or may not be accurate. But IOS does not provide a realtime way to get SOT. There are work arounds but they are not realtime or convenient to use.
Did you even look on the picture or read what I wrote? The list shows how long the screen was on for each app and if you add all those up it amounts to 11h 17 minutes.
 
Did you even look on the picture or read what I wrote? The list shows how long the screen was on for each app and if you add all those up it amounts to 11h 17 minutes.
I did but i got 10.37. It looks like it is getting better at displaying the in formation. I just checked on mine and it shows data too. I wish it would display a running total for us to see without having to manually add the times up ourselves.
 
I disagree, Samsung has the momentum and the money. What the hell is AT&T going to sell besides iPhones if they don't have Samsung? And I do think if Samsung put out their own store (ala Google and HTC) in the US, with payment plans, support, warranty, etc, people would use it. They know the brand enough and have loyal users now.

This is the time when Samsung needs to tell AT&T and Verizon..'we are selling an unlocked phone in the US without your branding or bloat. You can sell that in your store too with your payment plans. But we don't need your subsidies any more, and your crapware is hurting out bottom line. If you don't want to sell it fine, we are setting up our own distribution channel."

I hope it's that easy next time they negotiate. I really do.
 
Yknow, I love that I can rinse off my s7e with a little water if it gets stained or dirty. Feels nice to be able to "wash" your smartphone. You worry less about things like sticky fingers, for example, knowing you can just rinse off your device in a bit after your hands are clean.

Little luxuries like that add up.
 
Yknow, I love that I can rinse off my s7e with a little water if it gets stained or dirty. Feels nice to be able to "wash" your smartphone. You worry less about things like sticky fingers, for example, knowing you can just rinse off your device in a bit after your hands are clean.

Little luxuries like that add up.
The question does arise though, what are ye doing to your phone to get it stained or dirty :eek:
 
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Imho, carriers should be willing. If they don't sell Samsung in their store, with their payment plans, then people buy unlocked from Samsung, go to whoever is the cheapest. And there are far more options than just AT&T or Verizon out there. I personally think they need Samsung more than Samsung needs them.

I agree and I'm always surprised when US users call their phones subsidized as far as I can tell however way you want to carve up your contract, lease or whatever, you pay for the phone by some installment method either in part in upgrade schemes or the whole and often even more. All you do not have is the initial shock of the full retail price although some now offer this on a never ending upgrade scheme. Of course there are lots of advantages and removal of hassles on selling etc on these schemes to suit different users but the phone is paid for one way or another in the carriers favour.

Many of us over spec our laptops but this is nothing compared to mobile phones and data packages and the burden it puts on many families IMO
 
I hope it's that easy next time they negotiate. I really do.

I can assure you it's not.

The deals in place between oem and carriers are wins for both. The bloat ware u see on phones is predetermined and it gives both a discount to oems as well as the carriers. For the time being I think they need each other. It's why most carrier stores want to sell non iPhones. They don't make as much, if anything on iPhones because Apple won't allow the bloat. But they sell it because they know they have to.
 
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