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epicrayban

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Man I wish they would implement more of these things in the iOS version. Especially the align to side function, one handed typing is a bitch on the 7 Plus.

Yes. And if you're speaking of the stock iOS keyboard, your last sentence is true in more ways than just the difficult size of the iPhone Plus. Without gesture typing, thumb tapping on the stock keyboard with one hand is torturous on any size iPhone.

Hopefully the Android GBoard features find their way to the iOS version soon.
 

AppleRobert

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I put the S8 launcher with Bixby on my S7 along with the S8 aod and weather widget. I switched back to Nova launcher later though.

Did the same on my friend's edge and added the s8 wallpaper, he is not planning on using any other launcher and really likes his almost cloned s8. :)

Cannot fully customize Bixby yet to get all the cards he would like and voice assistant is not available yet, hopefully down the road. Those xda guys will make it so. :)
 
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scott craft

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Did the same on my friend's edge and added the s8 wallpaper, he is not planning on using any other launcher and really likes his almost cloned s8. :)

Cannot fully customize Bixby yet to get all the cards he would like and voice assistant is not available yet, hopefully down the road. Those xda guys will make it so. :)
I didn't care for the size of the icons with the S8 launcher, but I didn't spend any time seeing if I could change the icon size.
 

shyam09

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How's the face widgets for AOD?
EDIT:

Tip: You have to tap on the clock style to open up more options. Didn't notice this till now.

I notice some new ones, but I never played around with the old version too much to recall it correctly.
 

Tsepz

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Don't mind me, just another "OMG, Battery Life is amazing post". Lol.

I just can't get over how I hammer my S7 Edge daily and I get home at around 6PM and still has well over 50% battery for me to hammer it at night before going to bed.

I hope the S8 and S8+ are like this.

I cannot wait for the day Samsung manage to use Exynos in the USA and China to so we can all experience how truly efficient Samsung Engineering can get a device.
 

epicrayban

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The Verge:
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/4/10/15241666/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-s8-value

Samsung's Galaxy S7 Edge is still a great phone, and now great value thanks to the S8


I really didn’t set out to re-review the S7 Edge; all I wanted was to remind myself what Samsung’s TouchWiz interface was like, so as to be able to best judge the company’s changes in the 2017 iteration. But then I started admiring the S7 Edge’s screen. And I got an appreciation for the battery life that comes from a class-leading 3,600mAh battery. By the time I’d taken a few decent photos with the camera, I was convinced sufficiently to swap my SIM card over from my beloved Pixel and extend this Samsung test drive.

Now, am I saying the S7 Edge is better than the Pixel? Or better than the upcoming Galaxy S8? Definitely not. But depending on how its price shakes out in your local market, the S7 Edge looks set to offer much better value for money. Think about the things you want from a premium smartphone: a universally high standard of quality across display, camera, ergonomics, and looks, with the biggest possible battery that doesn’t explode. Well, the S7 Edge checks off all those boxes in 2017 almost as well as it did in 2016.
 
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Roadstar

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The Verge:
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/4/10/15241666/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-s8-value

Samsung's Galaxy S7 Edge is still a great phone, and now great value thanks to the S8


I really didn’t set out to re-review the S7 Edge; all I wanted was to remind myself what Samsung’s TouchWiz interface was like, so as to be able to best judge the company’s changes in the 2017 iteration. But then I started admiring the S7 Edge’s screen. And I got an appreciation for the battery life that comes from a class-leading 3,600mAh battery. By the time I’d taken a few decent photos with the camera, I was convinced sufficiently to swap my SIM card over from my beloved Pixel and extend this Samsung test drive.

Now, am I saying the S7 Edge is better than the Pixel? Or better than the upcoming Galaxy S8? Definitely not. But depending on how its price shakes out in your local market, the S7 Edge looks set to offer much better value for money. Think about the things you want from a premium smartphone: a universally high standard of quality across display, camera, ergonomics, and looks, with the biggest possible battery that doesn’t explode. Well, the S7 Edge checks off all those boxes in 2017 almost as well as it did in 2016.
Good points there. I'd love to use my S7 Edge more, but as Samsung keeps dragging their feet with security updates, I can't bring myself to add my work accounts there, and that's when it stops being a valuable tool. Sadly it still seems like Samsung's essence is amazing hardware undermined by sub-standard software support.
 

epicrayban

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Good points there. I'd love to use my S7 Edge more, but as Samsung keeps dragging their feet with security updates, I can't bring myself to add my work accounts there, and that's when it stops being a valuable tool. Sadly it still seems like Samsung's essence is amazing hardware undermined by sub-standard software support.

I believe their new promise to update unlocked versions applies to the S7E. Is your S7E unlocked from Samsung? If so, it actually should have seen the March security patch that went out a couple of weeks ago. It won't be first of the month like Pixels, but it'll be within the month moving forward (if they can keep their promise).

However, if your S7E is tied to a carrier, that'll depend on the carrier. Some are amazing (Tmobile kept up with it very well last year), and some aren't sadly.
 

Roadstar

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I believe their new promise to update unlocked versions applies to the S7E. Is your S7E unlocked from Samsung? If so, it actually should have seen the March security patch that went out a couple of weeks ago.

If it's tied to a carrier, that'll depend on the carrier. Some are amazing (Tmobile kept up with it very well last year), and some aren't.
Their newest promise was for US only, and even though all the European models (as far as I know) are unlocked, Samsung's handling of updates is ridiculous. I did actually get an update a few days ago (so it was well into April) and it bumped my security updates from January all the way to... February. Oh how I wish I were kidding.
 

epicrayban

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Their newest promise was for US only, and even though all the European models (as far as I know) are unlocked, Samsung's handling of updates is ridiculous. I did actually get an update a few days ago (so it was well into April) and it bumped my security updates from January all the way to... February. Oh how I wish I were kidding.

Ah, sorry. I was in a USA-only mindset.

That really is unfortunate. :T
 

navaira

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In the Netherlands I am still on January update, and they used to actually come regularly until then. It's like Samsung goes "we're going to announce S8 soon, no need to continue supporting S7 anymore" – even though the announcement came, um, after January... I thought only Sony did this kind of stuff.

This is literally the only thing I am jealous of when it comes to iPhone.
 

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I am planning to sell my S7 soon if they don't have a good S8 deal and then just buying that out of pocket. The S7 is good, but battery life isn't as good as my SE.
 

Tsepz

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In the Netherlands I am still on January update, and they used to actually come regularly until then. It's like Samsung goes "we're going to announce S8 soon, no need to continue supporting S7 anymore" – even though the announcement came, um, after January... I thought only Sony did this kind of stuff.

This is literally the only thing I am jealous of when it comes to iPhone.
My S7 Edge is on the February update.

I think the software team who were in S7 have been moved to S8 now, there are problems less people in the S7 software team.

I don't get what the obsession with these updates is though, the phone is runner beautifully.
 

Roadstar

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My S7 Edge is on the February update.

I think the software team who were in S7 have been moved to S8 now, there are problems less people in the S7 software team.

I don't get what the obsession with these updates is though, the phone is runner beautifully.

Well, if it were feature updates that are missing, it wouldn't be big of a deal since the current feature set on the S7 Edge is just fine. However, we're talking about security updates and not having them is a big deal especially if you use your phone for anything sensitive. For after all, once the patches are out, also details of the patched vulnerabilities become more readily available. As a result, our phones have well-known vulnerabilities open and those vulnerabilities will be included in the common attacks. So the longer manufacturers drag their feet regarding updates, the more vulnerable our devices get, and that's simply a nonstarter for a phone that's used as a tool.
 
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Tsepz

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Well, if it were feature updates that are missing, it wouldn't be big of a deal since the current feature set on the S7 Edge is just fine. However, we're talking about security updates and not having them is a big deal especially if you use your phone for anything sensitive. For after all, once the patches are out, also details of the patched vulnerabilities become more readily available. As a result, our phones have well-known vulnerabilities open and those vulnerabilities will be included in the common attacks. So the longer manufacturers drag their feet regarding updates, the more vulnerable our devices get, and that's simply a nonstarter for a phone that's used as a tool.
What I have found is that malware tends to be found outside the Play Store, then again I'm also not one who downloads a lot of apps or browses sketchy websites.

It just seems to me this whole monthly updates thing is one big facade by OEMs and Google to play on those who are worried about security, and it's creating unnecessary panick, but that's just me.

I think if Security is number 1 in your mind, and your data is incredibly sensetive it may be better to use something that is less popular for the sensetive stuff e.g. a BB Passport or Z30 with BBOS, or some sort of high security device like the Blackphone, as I doubt any run off the mill Smartphone (Android, iOS or WM) at the moment will protect you.
 
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What I have found is that malware tends to be found outside the Play Store, then again I'm also not one who downloads a lot of apps or browses sketchy websites.

It just seems to me this whole monthly updates thing is one big facade by OEMs and Google to play on those who are worried about security, and it's creating unnecessary panick, but that's just me.

I think if Security is number 1 in your mind, and your data is incredibly sensetive it may be better to use something that is less popular for the sensetive stuff e.g. a BB Passport or Z30 with BBOS, or some sort of high security device like the Blackphone, as I doubt any run off the mill Smartphone (Android, iOS or WM) at the moment will protect you.

Yes, the most common attack vectors are indeed outside the Play Store and sketchy parts of the web. Still, every now and then there's a vulnerability where you can be exploited without actively doing anything risky or stupid.

For my use the dedicated high security devices would be a bit overkill and would hamper my use in other ways with worse app selection etc. However, I do appreciate security high enough to want to have any known vulnerabilities patched within a reasonable timeframe as up-to-date software combined with sane usage habits should provide good enough protection. However, in the Android side of things too many manufacturers are completely dropping the ball when it comes to security. Samsung has made all kinds of promises, but unfortunately my S7 Edge seems like it will be just a camera with some games on it as Samsung seems to have dropped the ball with security update delivery, and if the Tizen screwup is any indicator, their company culture seems to consider security as an afterthought that's handled at some point if there's time for it instead of an integral part of the development cycle that's more a less a necessity nowadays.
 

Tsepz

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Yes, the most common attack vectors are indeed outside the Play Store and sketchy parts of the web. Still, every now and then there's a vulnerability where you can be exploited without actively doing anything risky or stupid.

For my use the dedicated high security devices would be a bit overkill and would hamper my use in other ways with worse app selection etc. However, I do appreciate security high enough to want to have any known vulnerabilities patched within a reasonable timeframe as up-to-date software combined with sane usage habits should provide good enough protection. However, in the Android side of things too many manufacturers are completely dropping the ball when it comes to security. Samsung has made all kinds of promises, but unfortunately my S7 Edge seems like it will be just a camera with some games on it as Samsung seems to have dropped the ball with security update delivery, and if the Tizen screwup is any indicator, their company culture seems to consider security as an afterthought that's handled at some point if there's time for it instead of an integral part of the development cycle that's more a less a necessity nowadays.
How about using Knox and putting anything sensetive in there?

I'm quite literally just at throwing a random suggestion, I'm not actually sure how well secured Knox is.

But yeah, maybe a Google Pixel will suit you more, I'm not sure how good LG and HTC are with those monthly updates, but may be worth checking?
 
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How about using Knox and putting anything sensetive in there?

I'm quite literally just at throwing a random suggestion, I'm not actually sure how well secured Knox is.

But yeah, maybe a Google Pixel will suit you more, I'm not sure how good LG and HTC are with those monthly updates, but may be worth checking?

I've played around with Knox a bit and it does indeed seem to add at least one more layer to breach if the OS itself is compromised. If Samsung actually sold dual-SIM flagships where I live, I might use that with Knox. However, I'm currently rocking a OnePlus 3T that's at least on 7.1.1 with the March patches. Sure I would've liked April patches to be delivered with the update I installed a couple of days ago, but if they don't take too long with the April updates, I can live with it. At least it's better than my S7 Edge that was still on January updates until last week, where it got bumped from January to February. That was well into April and the update should've definitely included at least March patches. Giving February patches almost three months late was rather insulting.

A Pixel would be nice indeed, but with the Pixel price I'd like to have also waterproofing and dual-SIM is also something I wouldn't want to give up. However, while the Pixel 2 is quite likely to get waterproofing, I don't quite see them making a dual-SIM version anytime soon. It's actually quite hard to find a phone that's higher midrange to flagship quality especially regarding camera, dual-SIM, and also gets regular software updates. Currently the OnePlus gets closest even though the camera could still use some improvements, but I wouldn't mind seeing more choices available.
 

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I will be updating my S7 for the security patches, but it's going to be use primarily for VR now unless the S8 offers a significant advantage at the time. Rather let the S7 run through wifi and airplane mode simultaneously. I'll trade it in for another device later this year. It's going to be semi-retired though.
 
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