Galaxy S7

[epicrayban]

According to this video, always on display is not only un-actionable, meaning you can't act on what you see on the always on screen. You have to actually hit the power or home button to wake the device to start any action. But also it only shows notifications for Samsung's stock apps. So no notification on the always on display for hangouts or gmail or what'sapp, etc.

Two major bummers. Don't think I'll be using always on display until it expands its features. Why waste the battery.

 

[MRU]

According to this video, always on display is not only un-actionable, meaning you can't act on what you see on the always on screen. You have to actually hit the power or home button to wake the device to start any action. But also it only shows notifications for Samsung's stock apps. So no notification on the always on display for hangouts or gmail or what'sapp, etc.

Two major bummers. Don't think I'll be using always on display until it expands its features. Why waste the battery.

Google's is likewise unactionable if you press on Ambient display it just goes to regular lock screen, it doesn't stay ambient and allow interactions.

Only Moto Display is actually interactive and adaptive. Play music and adaptive display will show your controls which you can interact with, still with screen off... It's very likely Moto holds a patent or two for interacting with them.

LG G5 essentially same as Samsung's implementation.

 

[epicrayban]

Google's is likewise unactionable. Only Moto Display is actually interactive and adaptive. It's likely Moto holds a patent or two for interacting with them.

LG G5 essentially same as Samsung's implementation.

Doesn't he act on the 6p at around the 6:30 mark?

 

[MRU]

Doesn't he act on the 6p at around the 6:30 mark?

Not really. He touches screen / notification, it basically just goes to the normal regular (screen lit) lock screen. He doesn't explain the difference very well at all tbh. So your just interacting with regular lockscreen notifications in the end, it's not persistently staying ambient and allowing interactivity.

 

[McCool71]

According to this video, always on display is not only un-actionable, meaning you can't act on what you see on the always on screen.

My guess is that would draw far more power since the phone would actively have to be able to register touches at any time.

 

[MRU]

My guess is that would draw far more power since the phone would actively have to be able to register touches at any time.

Doesn't affect Moto's battery life overall dramatically. It's still in that 5% bracket. I still get 6+ hours SOT with my Moto X Force and it has similar battery size to the S7 Edge and a supposedly more power hungry Snapdragon 810.

The reality is Interactivity is likely just patented to Motorola and is why no-one has copied their implementation and offered true interactivity like theirs yet...

 

[epicrayban]

Shame either way about the always on display in the s7. Practically useless feature.

 

[McCool71]

The reality is Interactivity is likely just patented to Motorola and is why no-one has copied their implementation and offered true interactivity like theirs yet...

Maybe. Or maybe it is considered a security risk. I certainly would not like other people interacting with my phone while I am not present, which is something this opens up for.

 

[MRU]

Okay kept pink disabled.
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You're good. He is a guy who had some bad clock app and kept on running speed tests and it made the GS7 Edge look bad pretty much.

Things like badge enabler are the notification badges in TW. Also MTP service is the service to mount your device to a computer for transferring files such as Android File Transfer and Kies...

Also once you've checked off some of these things, check for updates in the about us section of settings. Some disabled settings will cause the software updater for OTA updates to fail or not allow new software to download. Just something to check. Again - law of unintended consequences.

 

[McCool71]

Shame either way about the always on display in the s7. Practically useless feature.

Oh, if I had a cent for every time people activate their phones in meetings just to check the time I would have been a very rich man. And I don't even attend that many meetings a week.

It might not be for everyone, but I look forward to just the simple thing of having the time displayed while the phone is on my desk.

 

[MRU]

Maybe. Or maybe it is considered a security risk. I certainly would not like other people interacting with my phone while I am not present, which is something this opens up for.

Nope...

You can set it up to show certain information or not, much like any other lockscreen notification. And if you have a screen lock / password or pattern, you will still have to put that in once you try to launch something like SMS, hangouts etc... Just like you would on any other device. Security stays exactly the same as other devices, there is no security risk difference between it and any other devices with lockscreen notifications ....

 

[McCool71]

And if you have a screen lock / password or pattern, you will still have to put that in once you try to launch something like SMS, hangouts etc...

So tell me again how this is so much better than just waking up your phone by touching the fingerprint reader if you want to interact with anything on the lock screen...

 

[MRU]

So tell me again how this is so much better than just waking up your phone by touching the fingerprint reader if you want to interact with anything on the lock screen...

Because it is. Stop trying to turn this into a witch hunt. Moto's adaptive display is the best version. Simply.

You can preview different missed notifications so you don't have to wake your device at all, you can check off reminders, you can interact with music playing etc .. There is just far more adaptiveness to it. It's the best implementation of this feature.

That doesn't make Samsung's bad, or ambient display on my Google stock devices bad either. They're just different and less adaptive. I still end up back at the lockscreen at some point, whereas on a Moto unless you use security, you can pretty much never have to see a lock screen again.

Your response to this tbh is coming across needlessly defensive. If you really want to know how adaptive display is different, YouTube it.

 

[SteveJUAE]

Because it is. Stop trying to turn this into a witch hunt. Moto's adaptive display is the best version. Simply.

You can preview different missed notifications so you don't have to wake your device at all, you can check off reminders, you can interact with music playing etc .. There is just far more adaptiveness to it. It's the best implementation of this feature.

That doesn't make Samsung's bad, or ambient display on my Google stock devices bad either. They're just different and less adaptive. I still end up back at the lockscreen at some point, whereas on a Moto unless you use security, you can pretty much never have to see a lock screen again.

Your response to this tbh is coming across needlessly defensive. If you really want to know how adaptive display is different, YouTube it.

Wow those chillax pills are not working

I tend to agree other than dismissing reminders once there are messages you may as well interact fully. Shame S7(E) do not support other apps notifications but at least they have tried to include something for now.

I have always used S view cover with S5/S6 at least this gives me a chance to try it without

 

[GigabitEthernet]

The best Ambient Display implementation is IMO, the one on the OnePlus X. That's what Samsung should have done.

 

[MRU]

Wow those chillax pills are not working

I tend to agree other than dismissing reminders once there are messages you may as well interact fully. Shame S7(E) do not support other apps notifications but at least they have tried to include something for now.

Have you ever tried Moto Active Display ?

I am perfectly chilled. Myself and Epicryban were having discussion after the video posted about the differences between them and someone else butts in and starts to get a bit ratty and aggressively defensive because of the suggestion Moto does this display feature better.

The point also is that with Moto display you may get a message or email or multiples of both and you can see what they are and decide if you need to wake your device or not. Whereas with Google and Samsung & LG's version - you wake the device to even check what they are. You can't swipe between them like on Moto display, you can't change music or of using chromecast control video and such like you can on Moto display, all whilst keeping the screen in a low power state.

That's the whole point of the technology, to keep the screen off for trivial things, whereas the other implementations all rely on you waking the device fully, and moreover LG & Samsung unlock and turn on the device fully to see who those missed calls and other things were from - thereby undermining the point of an ambient display.

Moto must clearly have patents on their form of interactivity as even Google when they owned Moto haven't copied its implementation, and we can only assume that Patent now belongs to Lenovo.

But regardless as this form of always on / low power notification technology, currently Moto provide the better solution than all the others.

 

[MRU]

The best Ambient Display implementation is IMO, the one on the OnePlus X. That's what Samsung should have done.

The OnePlus X version is just the same as stock androids. It still can't be interacted with in its ambient state, as soon as you touch it - you wake the device go to the lock screen with full display on - thus consuming power.

 

[GigabitEthernet]

The OnePlus X version is just the same as stock androids. It still can't be interacted with in its ambient state, as soon as you touch it - you wake the device go to the lock screen with full display on - thus consuming power.

The difference on the OnePlus X is you can activate it by waving your hand over it, which you can't on Google's implementation.

 

[MRU]

The difference on the OnePlus X is you can activate it by waving your hand over it, which you can't on Google's implementation.

Adding a proximity sensor support is an improvement over the earlier nexus, but the content displayed is the same and still a far cry away from Moto's implementation and contextual interactivity.

The Nexus 6P actually support proximity sensor waving over its screen too.

 

[GigabitEthernet]

Adding a proximity sensor support is an improvement over the nexus, but the content displayed is the same and still a far cry away from Moto's implementation and contextual interactivity.

I actually prefer the Google implementation tbh as I can see more detail at a glance, whereas on Moto Display you have to swipe. I think you can see more on Ambient Display at once as well?

Each to their own of course. I do think the Samsung implementation is quite poor.

 

[MRU]

Anyway back on topic ...

Screen Protectors.

Has anybody experience of Zagg's new dry HD Shields ?

If so are they any good.

It's €19.99 here for the S7 edge but with free shipping and I believe EU orders are shipped from Ireland so if I order today it will likely arrive Tuesday with my S7 Edge.

Normally with non glass screen protectors on my previous Edges, the screen protector begin lifting. Anyone used Zagg before on an Edge device.

Also the old Zagg's had a rubbery spongey texture, have they changed that now ?

 

[mel823]

I got my tracking number! Should have it tommorrow. Going to bring all my goodies to work with me since that's where my phone is being delivered.

 

[BlueGoldAce]

So, who here disables location reporting? Overtime how does that effect Google now, etc? Do you notice a difference? How big of s battery life improvement do you see?

I have never been able to get a straight answer on this.

 

[jamezr]

According to this video, always on display is not only un-actionable, meaning you can't act on what you see on the always on screen. You have to actually hit the power or home button to wake the device to start any action. But also it only shows notifications for Samsung's stock apps. So no notification on the always on display for hangouts or gmail or what'sapp, etc.

Two major bummers. Don't think I'll be using always on display until it expands its features. Why waste the battery.

That is why I don't use it it tbh I still have to wake my S7e to do anything. I wish it faded in and out. It would be nice if it came on when the device was moved or touched instead of always on.
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Maybe. Or maybe it is considered a security risk. I certainly would not like other people interacting with my phone while I am not present, which is something this opens up for.

Oh that is a great point. I have mine set to sue my FP to unlock my phone. Si an interactive always on display would bypass that security. I would have to authenticate (using my FP) then use any features the phone has. Considering how fast the FP scanner is on the S7 the screen is unlocked anyway.
The adaptive interactive display on Motorola phones bypasses security to add that feature. Those phones don't have FP scanners to consider in the mix.
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Have you ever tried Moto Active Display ?

I am perfectly chilled. Myself and Epicryban were having discussion after the video posted about the differences between them and someone else butts in and starts to get a bit ratty and aggressively defensive because of the suggestion Moto does this display feature better.

The point also is that with Moto display you may get a message or email or multiples of both and you can see what they are and decide if you need to wake your device or not. Whereas with Google and Samsung & LG's version - you wake the device to even check what they are. You can't swipe between them like on Moto display, you can't change music or of using chromecast control video and such like you can on Moto display, all whilst keeping the screen in a low power state.

That's the whole point of the technology, to keep the screen off for trivial things, whereas the other implementations all rely on you waking the device fully, and moreover LG & Samsung unlock and turn on the device fully to see who those missed calls and other things were from - thereby undermining the point of an ambient display.

Moto must clearly have patents on their form of interactivity as even Google when they owned Moto haven't copied its implementation, and we can only assume that Patent now belongs to Lenovo.

But regardless as this form of always on / low power notification technology, currently Moto provide the better solution than all the others.

I remember Moto ambient display from my Pure. Great technology and more useful than the Always on Display because they are actionable and interactive. But it also bypasses device security such FP to unlock your phone.

 

[nj-morris]

Am I the only one who thinks the S6 Edge+ looks better than the S7 Edge?