That, or someone has their hands on the Horn of Winter and it will be moot. I suspect one way or the other we will have a "collapse of the wall" scene before the end of this series.
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That, or someone has their hands on the Horn of Winter and it will be moot. I suspect one way or the other we will have a "collapse of the wall" scene before the end of this series.
Good point. I guess I didn't quite associate the marking being connected with them being able to cross into the cave (more in the sense that they were able to track him using the mark and were able to cross into the cave because of something else like the magic no longer being powerful enough or them getting more powerful over time).
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Yeah, I was mostly connecting the crossing of the wall with something like that as far as how it would likely happen.
I thought they already found the Horn of Winter in Season 2??? Wasn't it buried North of the wall under that inscribed stone tablet? When Green was digging around in the snow and struck stone with Sam Tarly looking on and recognizing dragon glass, there was a horn buried with the stash and Sam kept it.
Yes. I think Huntn needs to re-watch the last episode. He seems to have missed a few things.
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There are distractions in my household... lol.
Really? I didn't remember that. I know Manse claimed to have it, but in the end he admitted he never did. So you are talking about the scene where Tarly first gets the dragon glass bag?
EDIT: Well holy $h*t.
Interesting, interesting. They don't really say anything about it or even really notice it. But then why have it there at all? So many things you kind of forget over the years as the show goes on.
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According to Game of Thrones Wiki:
So not necessarily the Horn of Winter and we don't know what happened to it.
Yes, that's the one. We were going ooh and ahh over the dragon glass and totally glossed over the horn that was bundled in there. I was wondering about that when someone mentioned "Horn of Winter" earlier.
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True...I was just speculating when I binge-watched the series.
Just having a read on the Game of Thrones wiki and am super impressed with how 'history repeated itself' by conveying the likeness between Cersei Lannister and Maegor Targaryen - and how they dealt with the Faith of the Seven.
Is George R R Martin a genius? I think he is.
Is George R R Martin a genius? I think he is.
No, HBO confirmed that Rhaegar was his father in an infographic:
And also, he's still a bastard. With that mentality Gendry would have a claim as well.
Yes I saw this earlier, plus the timeline doesn't add up for him to be Roberts son. Gendry would have had a claim to the throne. In fact, according to the wiki page, Robert Baratheon was elected King because of his half blood relationship with the Targaryens once Aerys II was killed. Also, Maegor was a bastard who was then King. The wiki is seriously deep.
Was Maegor one of Aegon IV's bastards? I'm pretty sure he legitimised all of them. That wouldn't happen to Jon.
Actually I'm wrong about Maegor. He was Targaryen/Targaryen but a bastard through incest.
Also, other similarities to Cersei. He poisoned himself whilst sitting on the throne as he was about to face defeat. Cersei almost did the same with Tommen when Stannis attacked Kings Landing. There's obviously also a big incest connection. Maybe Cersei and Jamie are in fact Targaryen children of the mad King without Tywin's knowledge?
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In the books he was killed by Varys, who returned to Westeros from Mereen only to make sure the kingdom stayed on turmoil, because Kevan was "too good at ruling". In the show, he died on the septon.
Exactly what BernyMac said.
Are you serious or kidding? I don't remember in the books Varys returning to Westeros, just disappeared after Joffery was killed. Maybe I'm losing my memory...
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It's confirmed.Great episode, still an outline!
I think we now know that Jon Snow is not Edward Stark's bastard son, but a Stark by his sister who may of had sexual relations with a Targarian, which may make Jon and Daenerys related, maybe even brother and sister.
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That was very informative for me, thank you. I noticed the dragon and kraken sigils, but not the others.
Looking at a map of the world, it is plausible for the Martell fleet to meet up with the fleet from Meereen, not to mention that the trip between King's Landing and Water Gardens is always depicted with ships.
But I don't know why the Tyrells would go all that way. They have a direct road to King's Landing.
Interesting they know how to spell it just from lip reading. Could have been 'ya-hairy-s'. He is quite hairy.
I was finally able to watch the season finale yesterday (have been out of town attending a conference), and thus able to read this thread. Good stuff!
I was mostly pleased with the episode. Cersei had gone off the deep end. With no children left, she has nothing to lose. And she probably knows that with what she's done she's now lost Jaime as well.
Tyrion has finally found the sister he always wished he had in Cersei. Of course, it will be a happy surprise when they discover they are actually related (since Tyrion's father is also questionable).
I did not see Tommen's suicide coming, although it made perfect sense. It was very sad.
Jon will wind up in King's Landing, but not as king. He will, most likely become the Royal Consort.
I was mostly pleased with the episode. Cersei had gone off the deep end. With no children left, she has nothing to lose. And she probably knows that with what she's done she's now lost Jaime as well.
Tyrion has finally found the sister he always wished he had in Cersei. Of course, it will be a happy surprise when they discover they are actually related (since Tyrion's father is also questionable).
I did not see Tommen's suicide coming, although it made perfect sense. It was very sad.
Jon will wind up in King's Landing, but not as king. He will, most likely become the Royal Consort.
Wait...
Since when has Tyrion's parentage been in question?
I've read the books and watched all the shows, not once have I ever questioned him being Tywin's son.
There's a theory that Tyrion is the son of the Mad King and Tywin's wife. I don't buy it.