From the last page of the last, unpublished book:
"... and then a metorite hit the earth and killed 'em all."
"... and then a metorite hit the earth and killed 'em all."
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Bran: Oh and by the by Jon, I found out who your parents are.
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That final scene on the ships takes place weeks after the scene in Dorne. Looking at the sails, you can see sigils for the various families that have joined behind Dany at that point. So Varys traveled back to Meereen with the Martell ships before setting sail for Westeros.
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Nice. I think by the end it will be everybody rooting for Daenerys, because so many people hate Cersei.
That was more or less a given from the first episodes with all the nudity and sex and all kinds of other stuff "sprinkled in" in quite a few places.
Yeah, but she is staying and said she hadn't seen it before but had heard it was good. Well now she knows HOW good.
Great episode, still an outline! 
I think we now know that Jon Snow is not Edward Stark's bastard son, but a Stark by his sister who may of had sexual relations with a Targarian, which may make Jon and Daenerys related, maybe even brother and sister.
You never know!
Not to be constantly griping about the differences between the show and the book, but...
Stannis never burned his daughter, so The Red woman was not quite as bad and the Onion Knight and Jon Snow would not have been as upset. She could have a role.
In the book, did'nt we last see Cercei on her way back to Casterly Rock after being humiliated? Her being crowned queen seems to be a huge divergence in story telling. And what happened to the Lannister Uncle who was supervising the crown until Tomen came of age to rule? Or was that a Baratheon? I'd think he'd be next in line.
I think we now know that Jon Snow is not Edward Stark's bastard son, but a Stark by his sister who may of had sexual relations with a Targarian, which may make Jon and Daenerys related, maybe even brother and sister.
You never know!
Not to be constantly griping about the differences between the show and the book, but...
Stannis never burned his daughter, so The Red woman was not quite as bad and the Onion Knight and Jon Snow would not have been as upset. She could have a role.
In the book, did'nt we last see Cercei on her way back to Casterly Rock after being humiliated? Her being crowned queen seems to be a huge divergence in story telling. And what happened to the Lannister Uncle who was supervising the crown until Tomen came of age to rule? Or was that a Baratheon? I'd think he'd be next in line.
She can do that in her own goddam time. We had a finale to watch.
More specifically nephew and aunt.Great episode, still an outline!
I think we now know that Jon Snow is not Edward Stark's bastard son, but a Stark by his sister who may of had sexual relations with a Targarian, which may make Jon and Daenerys related, maybe even brother and sister.
You never know!
Not to be constantly griping about the differences between the show and the book, but...
Stannis never burned his daughter, so The Red woman was not quite as bad and the Onion Knight and Jon Snow would not have been as upset. She could have a role.
In the book, did'nt we last see Cercei on her way back to Casterly Rock after being humiliated? Her being crowned queen seems to be a huge divergence in story telling. And what happened to the Lannister Uncle who was supervising the crown until Tomen came of age to rule? Or was that a Baratheon? I'd think he'd be next in line.
If his lineage can be proven, yeah. From that point, he's no longer Ned Stark's bastard son. He's the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark.
Though that'd only make him an heir, not the heir, since Daenerys is his elder, direct descendant of the old king, and is still kicking around.
Though that'd only make him an heir, not the heir, since Daenerys is his elder, direct descendant of the old king, and is still kicking around.
I believe you're referring to Uncle Kevan who, along with his son Lancel, was killed during the incineration of the Sept of Baelor.
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Doesn't that still make him a bastard but by a different name?
Daenerys is only the heir because there is no trueborn male heir in the mix. If Jon were not a bastard of Rhaegar and Lyanna then he would have a better claim, according to the traditional custom.
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Yes, except the Targaryens were much looser with this sort of thing. It is not clear to me how succession should flow... Rhaegar is Daenerys older brother, so does his son come first, or his sister? Succession and gender roles are a little complicated in the series.
I'm also curious who will confront Cersi. The same prophecy that called for the death of her children said she would die at the hands of her younger brother, but that could be Jamie, or else interpreted as the army with which Tyrion now rides.
The Nerdist YouTube channel made a good case for Arya assuming the role of Lady Stoneheart. Good way to consolidate stories.
I'm also curious who will confront Cersi. The same prophecy that called for the death of her children said she would die at the hands of her younger brother, but that could be Jamie, or else interpreted as the army with which Tyrion now rides.
The Nerdist YouTube channel made a good case for Arya assuming the role of Lady Stoneheart. Good way to consolidate stories.
As a Targaryen, Jon Snow would be next in line after his father. However, none of this matters because the Targaryen dynasty fell. From the point Robert usurped the throne, the Targaryens have had no real claim to the throne either way. I don't feel Jon wants to be King. Quite the opposite, I feel he would prefer and alliance (or marriage) to Danaerys. Of course, everyone immediately goes "Well, they're cousins". First, no one really knows they're cousins. Second, the Targaryens are not the family that cares about any of that.
He's still a bastard though. Targaryens might be messed up with the whole brother and sister, but that doesn't mean that bastards have any claims unless they are legitimised. And I highly doubt Cersei would allow that to happen.
He was just proclaimed King in the North. I wouldn't even worry about the bastard thing
Surely he is the son of Lyanna Stark and Robert Baratheon? We know Lyanna is his mother but the whole 'black of hair' issue got Ned Stark killed in a way. So, he is the true heir to Roberts throne.
Not saying you are wrong, I did not notice hm. I thought he had been absent from the show this season.
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Very interesting!
I did not know there was magic in the wall, that it was just a big frick'n wall. Happy to be educated.
Wait, even I knew there was magic in the wall and I haven't read the books!I did not know there was magic in the wall, that it was just a big frick'n wall. Happy to be educated.
During the first meeting with Bran's group at the cave of the Three Eyed Raven, the children of the forest claimed that the walkers cannot set foot in the cave because it is protected. The whole "Hold the door!" debacle was because Bran got marked and the protection of the cave is no longer in effect. And that mark is still on him and the reason why he can be tracked by the walkers. Benjen said the wall is protected by magic and he can't cross it. If Bran cross the wall, it may cause that protection to disappear in the same way as the cave of the Three Eyed Raven.