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impulse462

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I think she's gone from stary-eyed princess wannabe to a realist. But ruler? I disagree. I don't think she's ruled much of anything.

Jon led the army to retake Winterfell. In the war planning meeting nobody even asked for Sansa's opinion. The Wildings are loyal to Jon and nobody else, because he saved them. The Houses of the North declared Jon as King of the North.

She doesn't seem to be aspiring to rule, either. On the wall at Winterfell, she said Jon should have their parent's room, a symbolic gesture for his lordship and not hers.

Perhaps she will rule in the future. Littlefinger seems to have plans for her to rule the North, or at least that's what he tells her. But for right now? Right now she's buried pretty deep in Jon's enormous shadow.
Interesting analysis. The fact that no one listened to her was because no one took her seriously, though. Sansa is the reason the wildlings and Jon are alive. Her decision not to tell them about the knights of the Vale was really the key to the whole thing. That far ahead thinking and planning suggested to me that shes already on the way to becoming a ruler.

As much as I love Jon, his whole battle was riddled with mistakes right from the beginning. He can inspire of course, but Sansa did all of the thinking in this case.
 

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I second your friend's recommendations.

Well, I have read (most) of the books, and I used to teach medieval history (among other things)......so, I have some idea of what is going on.

But, even in central Asia, staff with whom I became quite friendly (and whom I respected hugely) spoke enthusiastically of Game of Thrones. As did others.

Well then, I might ask for a boxed set as a gift for a birthday or Christmas.
 

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I'm going through GoT withdrawal. Somebody say something interesting. ;)

I just read that Gwendolyn Christie (Brienne) and Iain Glen (Ser Jorah) were spotted on a flight to Belfast this morning. If it's for GoT, then it means that Jorah will be back next season, which wasn't a given. Maybe he found a good dermatologist.
 
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AlliFlowers

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I just read that Gwendolyn Christie (Brienne) and Iain Glen (Ser Jorah) were spotted on a flight to Belfast this morning. If it's for GoT, then it means that Jorah will be back next season, which wasn't a given. Maybe he found a good dermatologist.

I've been watching Iain Glen in Cleverman, a very interesting Australian production. His character is as duplicitous on both shows, although he is definitely the bad guy on Cleverman. What a brilliant actor.
 
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impulse462

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Yes, I keep promising myself that I should actually watch the TV version of the story; friends whose opinions I respect recommend it highly, and the cast is excellent, story gripping, and reviews well worth noting.
i only like the first 3-4 seasons. after that the writing seemed to get worse and they were more interested in having seasons where the finale was jam packed with everything but not much happened in the beginning of the season
 

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i only like the first 3-4 seasons. after that the writing seemed to get worse and they were more interested in having seasons where the finale was jam packed with everything but not much happened in the beginning of the season

If I remember correctly, the season finale last year was just another episode. However, your critique is especially true for this last season. I blame that on HBO's 10 episode seasons, woefully inadequate, with hugely expensive episodes, and from a practical standpoint, there is just not enough money, if using the books as the reference, to tell the story properly. It's still great and wonderful, but as I've said before, I have the books to lean on, and the HBO version is just a barebones outline as compared to the rich tapestry of the books.
 

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Brienne of Tarth- The power of makeup, quite a difference.

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Roller

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For those of you who haven't heard, the Game of Thrones concert will tour North American venues beginning in Kansas City in February 2017:

Wednesday, Feb. 15, 2017: Kansas City, Missouri, Sprint Center
Friday, Feb. 17, 2017: St. Paul, Minnesota, Xcel Energy Center
Sunday, Feb. 19, 2017: Chicago, United Center
Monday, Feb. 20, 2017: Detroit, Palace of Auburn Hills
Wednesday, Feb. 22, 2017: Columbus, Ohio, Nationwide Arena
Thursday, Feb. 23, 2017: Buffalo, New York, First Niagara Center
Saturday, Feb. 25, 2017: Uncasville, Connecticut, Mohegan Sun
Sunday, Feb. 26, 2017: Philadelphia, Wells Fargo Center
Wednesday, March 1, 2017: Washington, DC, Verizon Center
Friday, March 3, 2017: Montreal, Bell Centre
Saturday, March 4, 2017: Toronto, Air Canada Centre
Monday, March 6, 2017: Boston, TD Bank Garden
Tuesday, March 7, 2017: New York, Madison Square Garden
Thursday, March 9, 2017: Charlotte, North Carolina, Time Warner Cable Arena
Saturday, March 11, 2017: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, BB&T Center
Sunday, March 12, 2017: Tampa, Florida, Amalie Arena
Tuesday, March 14, 2017: Atlanta, Philips Arena
Thursday, March 16, 2017: San Antonio, Texas, AT&T Center
Friday, March 17, 2017: Houston, Toyota Center
Sunday, March 19, 2017: Denver, Pepsi Center
Tuesday, March 21, 2017: Salt Lake City, Maverik Center
Thursday, March 23, 2017: Los Angeles, The Forum
Saturday, March 25, 2017: Las Vegas, MGM Grand Garden Arena
Sunday, March 26, 2017: Phoenix, TalkingStick Resort Arena
Wednesday, March 29, 2017: San Jose, California, SAP Center
Friday, March 31, 2017: Seattle, Key Arena
Saturday, April 1, 2017: Vancouver, Rogers Arena
Sunday, April 2, 2017: Portland, Oregon, Moda Center

The show will include a full orchestra and choir, as well as imagery and scenery. I've long been a fan of GoT's main theme and score so I bought tickets for the Atlanta show. This is one case where I'm happy that Winter is Coming.
 
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For those of you who haven't heard, the Game of Thrones concert will tour North American venues beginning in Kansas City in February 2017:

Wednesday, Feb. 15, 2017: Kansas City, Missouri, Sprint Center
Friday, Feb. 17, 2017: St. Paul, Minnesota, Xcel Energy Center
Sunday, Feb. 19, 2017: Chicago, United Center
Monday, Feb. 20, 2017: Detroit, Palace of Auburn Hills
Wednesday, Feb. 22, 2017: Columbus, Ohio, Nationwide Arena
Thursday, Feb. 23, 2017: Buffalo, New York, First Niagara Center
Saturday, Feb. 25, 2017: Uncasville, Connecticut, Mohegan Sun
Sunday, Feb. 26, 2017: Philadelphia, Wells Fargo Center
Wednesday, March 1, 2017: Washington, DC, Verizon Center
Friday, March 3, 2017: Montreal, Bell Centre
Saturday, March 4, 2017: Toronto, Air Canada Centre
Monday, March 6, 2017: Boston, TD Bank Garden
Tuesday, March 7, 2017: New York, Madison Square Garden
Thursday, March 9, 2017: Charlotte, North Carolina, Time Warner Cable Arena
Saturday, March 11, 2017: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, BB&T Center
Sunday, March 12, 2017: Tampa, Florida, Amalie Arena
Tuesday, March 14, 2017: Atlanta, Philips Arena
Thursday, March 16, 2017: San Antonio, Texas, AT&T Center
Friday, March 17, 2017: Houston, Toyota Center
Sunday, March 19, 2017: Denver, Pepsi Center
Tuesday, March 21, 2017: Salt Lake City, Maverik Center
Thursday, March 23, 2017: Los Angeles, The Forum
Saturday, March 25, 2017: Las Vegas, MGM Grand Garden Arena
Sunday, March 26, 2017: Phoenix, TalkingStick Resort Arena
Wednesday, March 29, 2017: San Jose, California, SAP Center
Friday, March 31, 2017: Seattle, Key Arena
Saturday, April 1, 2017: Vancouver, Rogers Arena
Sunday, April 2, 2017: Portland, Oregon, Moda Center

The show will include a full orchestra and choir, as well as imagery and scenery. I've long been a fan of GoT's main theme and score so I bought tickets for the Atlanta show. This is one case where I'm happy that Winter is Coming.

They need 3 dragons to fly circles over the audience, blowing fire at them. :D
 

Roller

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They need 3 dragons to fly circles over the audience, blowing fire at them. :D

I hear that's exactly what they're going to do.

The concession stands will offer various types of meat on long skewers—hot dogs for the masses, steak for the houses supporting the King in the North, and, not to be too graphic, other types of meat for Lannisters and ex-Boltons. Audience members will be able to hold them up to be cooked by the dragons, one for rare, one for medium, and one for well done (probably Drogon).

Seriously, though, I think this will be fun. I enjoy GoT's music, and I'm sure that many people will show up in costume. The last time I experienced anything like that was when I went to a midnight showing of The Rocky Horror Picture Show decades ago. It'll also help fill the void created by the late start to season 7.
 

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Nerdist just posted the VFX season 6 reel... so crazy what they can do.

Frick'n amazingly! The advances in CGI are stunning. No more need for Sin City or The Crow style backdrops. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Avatar led the way, in that case a 100% crafted photo realistic world, filmed in a warehouse, motion capture, and digital face mapping, although motion capture has been around for a long time. Makes me want to be a digital artist! :D

The next step in the evolution will be to get rid of the actors, which I doubt will happen any time soon.
 
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Khalanad75

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I wonder if Martin is still trying to write the Winds of Winter?

I keep telling you that he is a man who has become dis-interested in his own story, hence the slow process of writing. He just does it out of feeling some sense of obligation to the fans.

Now that the show is out... that obligation is even less.

He's gonna Jordan us.
 
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