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What he don't seem to get is the title of the thread isn't, "what would be better for game performance, OSX or Windows". I'm personally not stupid as I'm sure many others here aren't as well. It's pretty freaking obvious that Windows is going to run games better. Thanks for that brilliant conclusion though to Mr. Obvious.

The purpose of this thread is to collect gaming performance reports in OSX specifically on the nMP. If people want to provide gaming performance under Windows in bootcamp then I'm fine with that as well but that wasn't my purpose behind the thread.

If you're coming in this thread to sing the praises of Windows for gaming you're wasting your breath because everyone on the planet already knows this and likely just looking to incite an argument.

This. We haven't had a single useful post in the thread since the original one. I keep replying while knowing that I'm helping trolling the thread away further but people should really stick to the original post when replying.
 
Like what AAA Mac games? Diablo III? Bioshock Infinite? The Witcher 2? It's not sarcasm when it's true.

All those titles available and running better under Windows. Same titles, same hardware, but Windows always give us higher FPS, go figure. OSX gaming is pathetic as it is.
You want to use your Mac to its fullest potential in gaming? Use Windows in BootCamp. End of story.

OSX is all work and no play, which is ironic since the old Mac vs. PC ads tried so hard to show you otherwise.

You said it yourself, if you want the fullest potential of a game, use Windows. However to game you don't need it, but that's quite far away from what I talked about, in fact I said quite exactly that the teams are quite new and to give it time, not that we are there now.

Your point was that there's no games on Mac and no gaming platform, when that is clearly not true, it exists and it is growing, and Apple has acknowledged that (finally) by getting a team for that purpose. So again, what are you complaining about?

If your point is that performance is better in Windows, and that's your whole point, why did you quote me at all or talk about Cut the Rope 2? Wasting my time or trying to troll me?
 
Your posts are argumentative for the sake of being argumentative, I suspect. In other words: you're trolling. Whip out some benchmarks to back your statements up. The usual suspects are FPS numbers in various triple-A games on varying levels of detail, resolution, and effects.



There are no top rated, current triple-A games available for Mac OS right now. Once today's triple-As become available on OS X, the games on Windows will have bumped to the next generation.

Running Windows on a Mac is a waste of a Mac. You can do it, sure. But it seems like a good way to hobble a piece of machinery with a ****** OS. However, let's assume someone installs Windows on a Mac Pro and then tries to run Battlefield 4. Ultra settings on the highest resolution available on whatever panel they're using. What kind of frame rate do you expect them to get?

My dual-overclocked Titan Windows gaming rig is locked at 60FPS because that's all the 3 panels can do (60Hz). I'm running Surround Video with a resolution of 5760x1200, on Ultra settings. I'm quite sure the Mac Pro, even with the D700s, couldn't do that smoothly.

But that's not what it's built for.

Oh, and consoles suck for FPS games. They always will suck for FPS games.

Is that comment about trolling directed at me then? If so for what reason, and, why state my posts are argumentative then post a comment that is an open invitation, and designed to enlist a argumentative response?
As for the rest of your comment it's incorrect, especially about consoles, and why do you feel the need to tell us all about your gaming PC setup in a discussion about nMP?

But I would love for nMP owners to post scores and performance stats of games on here. So if anyone has any stats to post, please do.
 
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It should be a side-grade update if you already have a 7950 or higher in your Mac. These cards are not meant for gaming. They can do it but it is not their forte. If you want great performance boot to Windows and enable Xfire. Otherwise you will have a Mac game experience like that of an underclocked 7970. Not sure why all the fuss waiting for scores. Those will be the scores.
 
That's BF3: yesterday's triple-A title. :) Today's is BF4, which is far more graphically and processor intensive.


Not really. As a long-time BF franchise user I can say that BF4 is actually BF3 DLC with some extra GFX. :)

And it's definitely not "far more graphically and processor intensive".
 
Not really. As a long-time BF franchise user I can say that BF4 is actually BF3 DLC with some extra GFX. :)

And it's definitely not "far more graphically and processor intensive".

I'm not sure which game you're playing or whether you're actually watching the load on your CPU and GPU. I am playing BF4 and I do regularly watch the aforementioned loads. It is substantially more intensive.
 
I'm not sure which game you're playing or whether you're actually watching the load on your CPU and GPU. I am playing BF4 and I do regularly watch the aforementioned loads. It is substantially more intensive.


That is just bad coding from Dice. :) Next patches will lower that I'm pretty sure. Same as with BF3 on release.

My point is that BF4 is basically the same as BF3, not a new engine, just new content and too many new bugs.

And I think D700 hexacore which Apple will hopefully ship to me next month will handle BF4 just fine in 1440p. :D
 
Running Windows on a Mac is a waste of a Mac. You can do it, sure. But it seems like a good way to hobble a piece of machinery with a ****** OS. However, let's assume someone installs Windows on a Mac Pro and then tries to run Battlefield 4. Ultra settings on the highest resolution available on whatever panel they're using. What kind of frame rate do you expect them to get?

I disagree. As much as I dislike Windows, if that's where the game I want to play at the moment happens to be, then I will switch to Windows without hesitation. It does not waste my Macintosh nor tarnish it. When I am finished playing my Windows-based game, I can tell the computer to become a Macintosh once again. It has not suddenly become slower or "worse for the wear" for having been booted up in Windows for any length of time.

Also, not everyone cares about running Battlefield 4 nor running games in 4K resolution or even at ultra settings. I have a 2560x1600 Apple Cinema Display as my primary monitor. If I can get >= 60 fps at that resolution in the games I like to play (WoW, Rift, SWTOR, FFXIV and several Steam-based games), on Mac or in Windows, at whatever quality settings my eyes like, then my Mac Pro has now become a fantastic gaming machine for me. For someone like me, a Titan card is a bit of an overkill… at least for now.
 
I disagree. As much as I dislike Windows, if that's where the game I want to play at the moment happens to be, then I will switch to Windows without hesitation. It does not waste my Macintosh nor tarnish it. When I am finished playing my Windows-based game, I can tell the computer to become a Macintosh once again. It has not suddenly become slower or "worse for the wear" for having been booted up in Windows for any length of time.

Also, not everyone cares about running Battlefield 4 nor running games in 4K resolution or even at ultra settings. I have a 2560x1600 Apple Cinema Display as my primary monitor. If I can get >= 60 fps at that resolution in the games I like to play (WoW, Rift, SWTOR, FFXIV and several Steam-based games), on Mac or in Windows, at whatever quality settings my eyes like, then my Mac Pro has now become a fantastic gaming machine for me. For someone like me, a Titan card is a bit of an overkill… at least for now.

Lets face it, no one should even be discussing 4K gaming at this point as it's not feasible with todays GPU's. 4K is still very much a early adopter thing and GPU's aren't powerful enough at this point to provide decent performance for gaming at that resolution.
 
Lets face it, no one should even be discussing 4K gaming at this point as it's not feasible with todays GPU's. 4K is still very much a early adopter thing and GPU's aren't powerful enough at this point to provide decent performance for gaming at that resolution.

I do agree that discussing it in this particular thread, given its original topic, is a bit out in left field.
 
For those who throw in: buy a console... there are a lot, A LOT of us around here.. that are NOT interested in a console. Playing a FPS or strategy game with a joystick, come on! A keyboard under your left hand, and a good mouse in your right hand. Pin point accuracy. Those joysticks are fun with Fifa. But thats it!

And it is a bummer for us OSX users, that we have to deal with the fact that the real games, are simply under Windows. The handfull of okay games on OSX are okay.. and half of those are many years old and ported to OSX.

Anyway, this profesional is going to boot to Windows right now, and kill some nubs in BF4! With a mouse and keyboard! on my iMac! :D
 
I feel sorry for the original poster. The thread is quite clear - gaming performance reports in OS X on nMP. If we keep to the original post then Windows comparisons have nothing to do with it.

I have a Feb nMP on order and I am curious to hear some OS X gaming reports to keep myself occupied while I count down the days to the knock on the door.

If I had wanted a Windows gaming rig I would have ordered one and visited a Windows gaming forum and not this thread.
 
I feel sorry for the original poster. The thread is quite clear - gaming performance reports in OS X on nMP. If we keep to the original post then Windows comparisons have nothing to do with it.

I have a Feb nMP on order and I am curious to hear some OS X gaming reports to keep myself occupied while I count down the days to the knock on the door.

If I had wanted a Windows gaming rig I would have ordered one and visited a Windows gaming forum and not this thread.

I know exactly what you mean. It's so annoying to ask a Mac specific question in a MAC FORUM and get so many answers about Windows and Win machines. It would be like going to a Mercedes forum and asking which Mercedes has the best handling and then someone replying with, "you should buy a Buick".

Seriously?
 
Sorry to be off topic, but this is a pet peeve of mine.

come to think of it after 20 years of using Windows I've never gotten a virus, and never used anti-virus software

If you've never used anti-virus software, how would you know you've never got a virus? :rolleyes:

Viruses are not like in the movies, where a big colorful message pops up on your screen with a 10 second countdown until your computer is destroyed. They are actually designed to be hidden as possible.

In the IT part of my career, I've cleaned many viruses of off many PCs from users that didn't have anti-virus and didn't know they were infected.
 
Your posts are toxic, very combative and confrontational, bordering on offensive. If I was a mod on these forums you'd be banned from posting here. If your only purpose is to argue in life and on these forums then why don't you find a more constructive outlet for that? These are Mac forums and trying to shove Windows down peoples throats is a pretty worthless use of your time and only serves to incite others and aggravate.

Toxic how? It's the fact. And I insert one line of smirky joke and you're offended?

Yes I'm aware it's a Mac centric forum
Yes I do love and use Macs. My main one is an iMac with i7 and 680MX which is not the best graphic around but decent
So, yes I do games on my iMac
Yes I use Bootcamp for games and OSX for works, because games library on Mac AppStore is downright embarassing. Many of them are ripped down from iOS titles, or an afterthought of long awaited (maybe too long?) AAA PC titles. Hence I gave "Cut the Rope 2 joke". Youmadbro?

Can I game on OSX? Sure, a few titles also comes to mac. I've been gaming on OSX and it wasnt fun. So I let Windows take the heavylifting for peqce of mind. Better API, better support, better drivers.
Am I offended if people said my iMac with 680MX is AngryBird machine when running OSX? No. It's the fact. I accept that OSX will always be second class OS for game developers. I know that, you know that.

So. Why installing BootCamp and maximize your mac graphic cards potential is an offensive idea? Well .. I have no idea :confused:
Last time I checked many of the threads on Macrumors asking for gaming on their glorious Mac is "How good is my mac gaming under Bootcamp?"

You said it yourself. This thread becomes lef out of topic. You and EldrBre accused me of trolling while no one is intersted enough to report on OSX gaming. Well I guess because many of Mac people would just do it on Windows,
 
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Toxic how? It's the fact. And I insert one line of smirky joke and you're offended?

Yes I'm aware it's a Mac centric forum
Yes I do love and use Macs. My main one is an iMac with i7 and 680MX which is not the best graphic around but decent
So, yes I do games on my iMac
Yes I use Bootcamp for games and OSX for works, because games library on Mac AppStore is downright embarassing. Many of them are ripped down from iOS titles, or an afterthought of long awaited (maybe too long?) AAA PC titles. Hence I gave "Cut the Rope 2 joke". Youmadbro?

Can I game on OSX? Sure, a few titles also comes to mac. I've been gaming on OSX and it wasnt fun. So I let Windows take the heavylifting for peqce of mind. Better API, better support, better drivers.
Am I offended if people said my iMac with 680MX is AngryBird machine when running OSX? No. It's the fact. I accept that OSX will always be second class OS for game developers. I know that, you know that.

So. Why installing BootCamp and maximize your mac graphic cards potential is an offensive idea? Well .. I have no idea :confused:
Last time I checked many of the threads on Macrumors asking for gaming on their glorious Mac is "How good is my mac gaming under Bootcamp?"

Don't worry... the fanboy is hurting over the facts. His ire should be directed at the game developers and at Apple.
 
Sorry to be off topic, but this is a pet peeve of mine.



If you've never used anti-virus software, how would you know you've never got a virus? :rolleyes:

Viruses are not like in the movies, where a big colorful message pops up on your screen with a 10 second countdown until your computer is destroyed. They are actually designed to be hidden as possible.

In the IT part of my career, I've cleaned many viruses of off many PCs from users that didn't have anti-virus and didn't know they were infected.

Well everything is backed up to a Synology which actually does run some anti-virus. And to be honest it has found some relatively innocuous viruses.
 
78 Fps, as Anandtech tested it, which is as high as 780Ti.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7603/mac-pro-review-late-2013/10

That's BF3: yesterday's triple-A title. :) Today's is BF4, which is far more graphically and processor intensive.

Ah ok, my mistake. Then you'd probably get whatever you are getting with a single 780Ti as their performance matches in titles which support Crossfire.

Those benchmarks were almost entirely in Windows --- the "CF" stands for crossfire, which only runs in Windows.

The lonely single OS X benchmark was quite sad, mostly because of the lack of CF support

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Even the nMP is literally twice as fast gaming in Windows.

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To the op, these videos are all about benchmarking and games testing the latest mac pro at 4k resolution! It is exactly the answer you are after!

I thought he wanted gaming in OS X. Gaming in Windows is pretty well established. The first 2 links are down, by the way.
 
I know exactly what you mean. It's so annoying to ask a Mac specific question in a MAC FORUM and get so many answers about Windows and Win machines. It would be like going to a Mercedes forum and asking which Mercedes has the best handling and then someone replying with, "you should buy a Buick".

Seriously?

I don't think that's the right analogy. If this is a Mercedes forum and you were asking can my Mercedes S-class race?
Well I answered "Well for racing you're better with XXX brand. But because you already have a Mercedes, although it's not the best track car but you can. Simply change the tires, add a turbocharger and do some fine tuning here and there and you're good to go. It will still be a Mercedes, but better. You won't go so well with STOCK Mercedes on track. Doable but downright miserable"

That's what most Mercedes users here do. Can't see why one should be offended?
Ifyouknowwhatimean :p
 
Last comment as this is clearly going to turn into a PC Elitist VS Mac Enthusiast argument and their is already enough FUD in here.
But you have just clearly displayed the Steambox main problem, market, is it aimed at PC and Mac buyers! Or console buyers? And the cheapest Steambox is still more than a PS4 and it has very low level hardware.
Console gamers do NOT buy a console to have the hassle of upgrading and taking it apart. And to an extent neither do Mac buyers. But we will see how the Steambox sells.

I'm not sure the exact pricing of steambox, but you can build your own gaming PC for the price of a PS4 which will have better hardware. You could even install the free SteamOS on it. Go on youtube and look for "kill your console." The PS4 is not an especially good deal on hardware.
 
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