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I thought he wanted gaming in OS X. Gaming in Windows is pretty well established. The first 2 links are down, by the way.

Well only one of those videos iw Windows, ALL the rest of them are games and benchmarks ran under OSX. Exactly what the OP wanted. So you obviously watched them before posting a reply then?

I'm not sure the exact pricing of steambox, but you can build your own gaming PC for the price of a PS4 which will have better hardware. You could even install the free SteamOS on it. Go on youtube and look for "kill your console." The PS4 is not an especially good deal on hardware.

Not even going to bother to honour you with a reply on that garbage! Wrong thread for that, go and post a thread in the Console section or Mac Gaming section if you want to argue it out.
 
Well only one of those videos iw Windows, ALL the rest of them are games and benchmarks ran under OSX. Exactly what the OP wanted. So you obviously watched them before posting a reply then?

... I couldn't, the first 2 links are down... I'll take your word for it.

Not even going to bother to honour you with a reply on that garbage! Wrong thread for that, go and post a thread in the Console section or Mac Gaming section if you want to argue it out.

apolloa: PS4 is a great deal compared to PC
slughead: Not really, see evidence I present here
apolloa: Wrong thread for that! That's garbage! I'm not even going to reply (even though I'm replying now)!

You trolled, I bit. I honestly blame myself. Well played.
 
... I couldn't, the first 2 links are down... I'll take your word for it.



apolloa: PS4 is a great deal compared to PC
slughead: Not really, see evidence I present here
apolloa: Wrong thread for that! That's garbage! I'm not even going to reply (even though I'm replying now)!

You trolled, I bit. I honestly blame myself. Well played.

LOL, in that part you can read that as "Lalalala .. can't hear you .. can't hear you ... lalalalala"
 
... I couldn't, the first 2 links are down... I'll take your word for it.



apolloa: PS4 is a great deal compared to PC
slughead: Not really, see evidence I present here
apolloa: Wrong thread for that! That's garbage! I'm not even going to reply (even though I'm replying now)!

You trolled, I bit. I honestly blame myself. Well played.

Why thank you...

And FFS, stupid You Tube, here are the full videos, all in about 50 mins of benchmarks etc, and unboxing video too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyqtyVx_j_o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT7PXTbrq00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohd8LNWGjiI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdLOh8MdU20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-nHZqjPF50
 
Those benchmarks were almost entirely in Windows --- the "CF" stands for crossfire, which only runs in Windows.

Hmm, so you are saying that CF stands for Crossfire, after I have written that in my own post. Thanks for "clarification" I guess. The poster was asking for the Battlefield framerates.

How could I have replied to him about framerates of Battlefield under OS X, where the game does not even exist?

Please, more reading before replying.
 
lol .. yeah OK.

You know, actually, come to think of it after 20 years of using Windows I've never gotten a virus, and never used anti-virus software.

Lol you "never" got a virus BECAUSE you never used anti-virus software, ie you never knew you had a virus, you just had problems.

You should take care that now virus are much more silent because many just aim to collect private data for money purposes.
 

Nice, so that was a Hex, D500 with 16GB Ram. Mac games run great with it from what I could see. The occasional stutter in COD but he was running his game from an external drive so that could be the reason as most COD's do that, even on my PC gaming rig.

Anyway, great video and thanks for posting here. I know my D700's will be even faster but from watching that, they aren't really necessary.
 
Nice, so that was a Hex, D500 with 16GB Ram. Mac games run great with it from what I could see. The occasional stutter in COD but he was running his game from an external drive so that could be the reason as most COD's do that, even on my PC gaming rig.

Anyway, great video and thanks for posting here. I know my D700's will be even faster but from watching that, they aren't really necessary.

Very nice. And Xplane looked very impressive.




Indeed. I guess it would be very smooth if he used the internal super-fast SSD.

Not me from Europe.
 
Just read those myself, they only had a D300 so not D700, would have been more interesting if it was the latter in comparisons.

D300 probably wouldn't even hold up to the ATI 5870...

In World of Warcraft, the D300 is as fast as iMac with 780M, which is faster than 5870. So I'm assuming that D300 is faster than 5870 at least in some games.
 
In World of Warcraft, the D300 is as fast as iMac with 780M, which is faster than 5870. So I'm assuming that D300 is faster than 5870 at least in some games.

Actually the D300 appears to be slower than the iMac 780M. The iMac with 780m gets 58-59 fps on high in d3 and the d300 only gets 48 as shown in that barefeats link.
 
Actually the D300 appears to be slower than the iMac 780M. The iMac with 780m gets 58-59 fps on high in d3 and the d300 only gets 48 as shown in that barefeats link.

I said "some games". In World of Warcraft they are equally fast.
 
I said "some games". In World of Warcraft they are equally fast.

Yep. If all you play is WoW.. (who? me?) the D300 is looking fine.

Barefeats is supposed to be adding a D700 rig to the tests, hopefully he'll be able to do those game tests as well. :D
 
Yep. If all you play is WoW.. (who? me?) the D300 is looking fine.

Barefeats is supposed to be adding a D700 rig to the tests, hopefully he'll be able to do those game tests as well. :D

The question is though why would anyone want to buy a 3,500 nMP over a iMac if you're going to get the same (and according to some reviews) even better performance with the iMac in both games and Photoshop etc? So far it's looking to me like unless you're going to invest enough in a nMP to get d700's the iMac is a better buy even for "pro's".

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I said "some games". In World of Warcraft they are equally fast.

Is WoW fps capped or something? If the 780M runs Diablo 3 better then I'd think it would also run WoW better.
 
The question is though why would anyone want to buy a 3,500 nMP over a iMac if you're going to get the same (and according to some reviews) even better performance with the iMac in both games and Photoshop etc? So far it's looking to me like unless you're going to invest enough in a nMP to get d700's the iMac is a better buy even for "pro's".

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Is WoW fps capped or something? If the 780M runs Diablo 3 better then I'd think it would also run WoW better.

Regarding WoW.. it's an old creaky graphics engine, that is ram limited and is likely more reliant on loading assets from disk, so it likely can't take as much advantage of the newer GPUs. Since it's a 3-D immersive environment, it's a lot different that Diablo, which is basically a very fancy scroller.


Regarding the iMac.. assuming you were a working pro, and the iMac fit the needs of what you needed to do right now, then the iMac is indeed a better decision.

However, at least myself.. I hope to have my next system purchase last at least another 5 years, and I frankly don't trust the iMac to last that long. I also already own dual 24" monitors, so I don't need to pay for that glossy iMac display.

There is certainly grey area here.. people are trying to make it a black or white decision, but for many here, there is a wide grey area regarding which is the best system to get.
 
Regarding WoW.. it's an old creaky graphics engine, that is ram limited and is likely more reliant on loading assets from disk, so it likely can't take as much advantage of the newer GPUs. Since it's a 3-D immersive environment, it's a lot different that Diablo, which is basically a very fancy scroller.


Regarding the iMac.. assuming you were a working pro, and the iMac fit the needs of what you needed to do right now, then the iMac is indeed a better decision.

However, at least myself.. I hope to have my next system purchase last at least another 5 years, and I frankly don't trust the iMac to last that long. I also already own dual 24" monitors, so I don't need to pay for that glossy iMac display.

There is certainly grey area here.. people are trying to make it a black or white decision, but for many here, there is a wide grey area regarding which is the best system to get.

I'd also like for my next system to last me more than just a couple of years and that was why I was looking towards a nMP but it's looking as of now like a nMP won't last 5 years even with d700's (if you plan to do any gaming anyways).
 
I'd also like for my next system to last me more than just a couple of years and that was why I was looking towards a nMP but it's looking as of now like a nMP won't last 5 years even with d700's (if you plan to do any gaming anyways).

Ehh.. trying to buy a system now planning for games 3-5 years from now is a fool's quest. Heck, you might not even care about them in another 2-3 years.

However... installing Win 8 and running your games there makes the nMP a very nice gaming rig. Not the top-end, but do you really need a top-end rig for games?
 
Is WoW fps capped or something? If the 780M runs Diablo 3 better then I'd think it would also run WoW better.

No it's not fps capped. It's just a different game. Not all games scale similarly with GPU power.

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The question is though why would anyone want to buy a 3,500 nMP over a iMac if you're going to get the same (and according to some reviews) even better performance with the iMac in both games and Photoshop etc? So far it's looking to me like unless you're going to invest enough in a nMP to get d700's the iMac is a better buy even for "pro's".

Hmm why get a machine with more RAM, the capacity to drive multiple 4K diplays, faster internal SSD, more thunderbolt channels, and a machine that is dead silent even when pushed to the maximum?
 
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