scem0 said:Haha. That's interesting.
While on the topic of fetishes, what are y'all's fetishes? Let's keep this one clean too. I have 2 fetishes:
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Ice...Ice...Ice...(Read the name)
Fetishes well now...let's see...hrmmm...
Beards. I love kissing guys with beards. All those little hairs tickling your face. It adds a little whimsicality to it.
Does cold weather count? I don't mean I just like the cold. I'm turned on by cold weather. I think it was because my first kiss was in December in the park, and it was cold.
Faggy voices. When a guy opens his voice and sounds all swishy, I get hot. Especially when it's a somewhat average or even butch looking guy. I know a few of them.
I think that's all that could be considered fetishes, if those could be considered fetishes. I'm a pretty straight forward kinda guy. Nothing too crazy for me.
Beards. I love kissing guys with beards. All those little hairs tickling your face. It adds a little whimsicality to it.
Does cold weather count? I don't mean I just like the cold. I'm turned on by cold weather. I think it was because my first kiss was in December in the park, and it was cold.
Faggy voices. When a guy opens his voice and sounds all swishy, I get hot. Especially when it's a somewhat average or even butch looking guy. I know a few of them.
I think that's all that could be considered fetishes, if those could be considered fetishes. I'm a pretty straight forward kinda guy. Nothing too crazy for me.
Oh, I left out an important one. I'm a wee bit obsesed with vocals, so voice is important to me. I can't stand the gay lisp for the most part.
Tenor/high voices on big guys is a huuuuuge turn on for me.
Bass/Deep Voices on a big guy is also a huge turn on.
A raspy deep voice is also good. For example, Vin Diesel.
I'm really attracted to Vin Diesel, it's kind of pathetic. Everytime I see him interviewed he is such a sensitive, nice guy, I love that. Physically he is very hot. I took the liberty of making a collage (notice the muscular body, but he doesn't have a 6 pack or less than 3% body fat, etc. This amt. of muscle isn't necessary. ):
His smile can be a little bit crooked, which is adorable. His ears stick out a little, which is also adorable. His voice is deep and rhaspy, which I like. He seems very sensitive and kind. Total hottie.
_Emerson
Tenor/high voices on big guys is a huuuuuge turn on for me.
Bass/Deep Voices on a big guy is also a huge turn on.
A raspy deep voice is also good. For example, Vin Diesel.
I'm really attracted to Vin Diesel
, it's kind of pathetic. Everytime I see him interviewed he is such a sensitive, nice guy, I love that. Physically he is very hot. I took the liberty of making a collage (notice the muscular body, but he doesn't have a 6 pack or less than 3% body fat, etc. This amt. of muscle isn't necessary. ):
His smile can be a little bit crooked, which is adorable. His ears stick out a little, which is also adorable. His voice is deep and rhaspy, which I like. He seems very sensitive and kind. Total hottie.
_Emerson
Fetish d jour
OK, OK, just joshing, I'm not too sure that I have any real fetishes, more to preferences or idiosyncracies. Nothing like a foot fetish or the ilk. Sorry guys.
Emerson, why not contact the NY Blind Society and offer to take out a tactile friendly gay for a night out? And yes cuddles are neat.
Kevin,
aka Grey Beard
WHIP ME, BEAT ME, MAKE ME PLEADscem0 said:
OK, OK, just joshing, I'm not too sure that I have any real fetishes, more to preferences or idiosyncracies. Nothing like a foot fetish or the ilk. Sorry guys.
Emerson, why not contact the NY Blind Society and offer to take out a tactile friendly gay for a night out? And yes cuddles are neat.
Kevin,
aka Grey Beard
scem0 said:Haha. That's interesting
While on the topic of fetishes, what are y'all's fetishes? Let's keep this one clean too.
Interesting topic.
I have 2 fetishes:
1) Blind guys. I really want to date a blind guy. Imagine how sensitive your body is to touch if you are blind. Plus, I think a blind person would have a really enlightened and unique perspective on this world and life in general. So, I want to date a blind guy one day
2) Cuddling. I really would rather cuddle than have sex. I have no experience in either sex or cuddling, however, so this is all theoretical.
_Emerson
I wonder if you can have a fetish, when not acted upon?
Frozone said:
Now you have me thinking on this one.
Guitarius said:
Like with scem, I am not sure I would consider those fetishes. The cold weather thing could be a fetish IMO if you acted up that desire by having "fun" in the freezing weather.
When I think of fetishes, I think of some of mine: jock straps, piercings (in particular PA's), tattoos (would love to have "fun" with a very heavily tattoed dude), freshly shaved heads and a body part mentioned by Dr. Evil in that Austin Powers film, and (how do I say this while trying to keep it clean?) a great copious release of "joy" perhaps?
I guess one could say that my fetishes are driven by the extremes of some of my pleasures and interests. I have a couple tats and a single piercing so far. I am turned on by those that have said f***-it, and did what they wanted to.
Chip NoVaMac said:Interesting topic.
Now you have me thinking on this one.
Not much to really think about...Just think ice...Lotsa ice in a steamy room...........
Chip NoVaMac said:Can we talk?
HAHAH, well I ain't never done it...Yet
It's prolly more a fantasy than fetish...But I guess they're both about the same thing....
Fantasies and Fetishes might as well be the same thing, as far as I'm concerned.
If they aren't then I have no fetishes.
_Emerson
If they aren't then I have no fetishes
._Emerson
scem0 said:Fantasies and Fetishes might as well be the same thing, as far as I'm concerned.
If they aren't then I have no fetishes
_Emerson
Yeah...Same here...
Still flyin that V-Card
(Not the mention the kissing card, etc etc etc)
Frozone said:HAHAH, well I ain't never done it...Yet
We really need to talk.
scem0 said:Fantasies and Fetishes might as well be the same thing, as far as I'm concerned.
If they aren't then I have no fetishes
_Emerson
And sometimes they cross boundaries with each other. In my case one of my fetishes, being 47, I would love on my 50th to have a "50 gun salute".
Fantasy, reality, or fetish? Not sure myself.
Just like your blind guy "fetish", the reality may be more disappointment than the reality. In the end that is what a fetish is about. Sexual gratification based on desires or fantasies.
Chip NoVaMac said:We really need to talk.
No offense, but you're about 30 years too old...
EDIT: Grr, I gotta stop typin' with a southern accent. :/
Frozone said:No offense, but you're about 30 years too old...
EDIT: Grr, I gotta stop typin' with a southern accent. :/
17 can still get you twenty in many states! Just an interesting offline topic of sorts. Had an interesting 30th birthday of "fire and ice".
gekko513 said:What else to do when you're bored ... Ewan McGregor has a nice natural body in that picture. Tobey could use a bit more fat.
Too bad that the skirts went out of fashion.
( Yeah, I know, I'm a fourteen year old girl at heart I suppose
I think I could stare into what's his faces eye's forever in that photo....
Sooo...Pretty.........*blink*.....*rolls tongue back into mouth*...*must resist*Chip NoVaMac said:
Just an interesting offline topic of sorts. Had an interesting 30th birthday of "fire and ice".
Should I dare even ask?
The whole dancing video didn't work out, and I deleted all my handstand pushup videos but I really wanted to post a video so I just went ahead and recorded myself doing some handstand pushups just now. I think others should have to post vids of themselves doing something interesting now . It's only fair.
enjoy (5.1MB)
It doesn't look like I'm going down very far from the video, and I suppose I'm not, but when your whole body weight is on your arm muscles it feels like your going waaay down .
_Emerson
. It's only fair.enjoy
(5.1MB)It doesn't look like I'm going down very far from the video
, and I suppose I'm not, but when your whole body weight is on your arm muscles it feels like your going waaay down ._Emerson
scem0 said:The whole dancing video didn't work out, and I deleted all my handstand pushup videos but I really wanted to post a video so I just went ahead and recorded myself doing some handstand pushups just now. I think others should have to post vids of themselves doing something interesting now
enjoy
It doesn't look like I'm going down very far from the video
_Emerson
I would post something of me being interesting, but...I'm not really that interesting. I could post stuff of me at football games though, but that's more scary than interesting...BTW, Nicee video
blaskillet4 said:
Here's where things get complicated. Actually, they're really not, it just takes some of the very preconceptions about sex (meaning body parts) gender and sexual orientation and flips them around. Thing is, they're all independent aspects of a how one perceives themselves but they're all related on a certain level. Sexual orientation is independent of someone's gender in the sense of who you're attracted to doesn't nececcarally depend on what your gender/sex is. Gender on the other hand is independent of sex (body parts) since people can change their gender without changing their sex.
Part of the problem is that most people see the transgendered (which is more of an umbrella term for all that don't fit into the male/man female/woman binary) as transsexual which is someone who actually goes into hormonal and surgical therapy to change their phsical sex (body parts). What you're talking about is the latter, which is a subcategory of transgendered.
To answer your questions however, you're going to have to take sex (body parts) out of the stuation (for now). What is commonly called "gay" is generally a man who is attracted to another man or a woman who is attracted to other women (although most women perfer something seperate like lesbian since the term gay tends to gravitate towards the male side of the spectrum as this thread so accurately demonstrates
) so...When someone is born male/female, grows up to be a man/woman and finds himself/herself attracted to other men/women, chances are he/she's gay/lesbian. When they start to question their gender and decide they want to move the opposite direction in which they were born and raised as, the term gay or lesbian no longer becomes appropriate since while their body parts may remain the same (for the moment at least for some people) their gender (how they see themselves, how society views and interacts with them et al...) changes and the labels that we use for non-trans people for sexual orientation become less and less accurate since those terms are used to describe people with a static gender identity.
Some trans people identify as straight, meaning they look/live/ID as etc as a man/woman and find themselves attracted to women/men. Some ID as bisexual (a term I have a problem with since it implies there's only two kinds of people to be attracted to) meaning they are attracted to both men and women, or some ID as gay or leabian, meaning they look/live/ID as a man or a woman and find themselves attracted to men or women.
slooksterPSV said:
sup?
Chip NoVaMac said:
Transgender is an umbrella term like I mentioned above, transsexual is a subcategory of that of which it only describes the people who have undergone some sort of physical change in relation to their gender, sometimes that involves surgery and sometimes it doesn't. Its quite difficult to get numbers on this kind of situation due to the nature of it but I'd say its a safe bet to say that some do seek some sort of surgery to correct their gender dysphoria.
Frozone said:
LOL!
You could ask. You might be faint of heart to understand.
The issue is now of one of legal age. Dodged the bullet in my younger years of "dating" a 16 yo (I was 20 at the time, and he said he was 18) - his Mom was totally cool with me. Have a friend that had a similar circumstance, and he now has to register as a "sex offender".
Desires of the youthful person can be trumped by fearful parents, and the rightful desire to protect our youth from those they would prey on the young and weak.
leekohler said:
Sounds god to me. I hope between you and Place - you all should come up with a place that would be nice in the Boystown area.
Cool! I'm absolutely and thorougly impressed!scem0 said:The whole dancing video didn't work out, and I deleted all my handstand pushup videos but I really wanted to post a video so I just went ahead and recorded myself doing some handstand pushups just now. I think others should have to post vids of themselves doing something interesting now
enjoy
It doesn't look like I'm going down very far from the video
_Emerson
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