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Bad time to jump ship. It doesn't get much better than a flagship Android phone.
 
Considering iPhone market share is declining, there are more iPhone users switching out than the other way round :)

Your confusing Apple with Samsung.

With S9 sales limping, Samsung won’t hit its 2018 smartphone sales goal
https://bgr.com/2018/06/22/samsung-galaxy-s9-sales-2018-miss-projections/

Apple gains ground on Samsung in smartphone market
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/smartphone-market-share-apple-samsung-3478970#288cRQHWm8DWMGyQ.99

“Samsung’s smartphone market share slipped slightly in Q1 2018, allowing Apple to gain a little ground on its arch-rival.”


You just can’t stop making things up
 
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iOS 11 is damn buggy. Worse than any Android. iOS 12 is following that footsteps. So many complaints. Plus planned obsolescence by apple. And affect whether flagships iPhone too.
iOS11 doesn't make users needing to factory reset their iPhones on a regular basis (which is what the OP experienced).
Planned obsolescence? Android is the king of planned obsolescence, where OEMs don't even bother pushing monthly security updates.
 
Im sorry but if the Note 8 is running well after 6 months it going to continue to run well. Samsung phones of old would start running like **** not long after release, i should know I've owned enough of them. My S8 still runs great (Better then new since the Oreo update) and its well over a Year old. Im sorry to tell you but the days of Lagwiz are well and truly over.

No, it won't. My s7 edge was bad after 2 years. It was great when I first got it.
 
Your confusing Apple with Samsung.

With S9 sales limping, Samsung won’t hit its 2018 smartphone sales goal
https://bgr.com/2018/06/22/samsung-galaxy-s9-sales-2018-miss-projections/

Apple gains ground on Samsung in smartphone market
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/smartphone-market-share-apple-samsung-3478970#288cRQHWm8DWMGyQ.99

“Samsung’s smartphone market share slipped slightly in Q1 2018, allowing Apple to gain a little ground on its arch-rival.”


You just can’t stop making things up

Yep, and there was an article that said more Android users are switching to iPhone than the other way.
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The S7 was good for all of a few weeks before it started to lag, you cant BS to me I've owned a ton of Samsung phones.

I've owned probably more than you. The s7 edge was great the first year, till it got the 1st O/S update, then it went to crap. And don't give me that line either. Most Android users will say that and then say yeah the latest phone s8 or s9 will not have that issue. Guess what, history repeats itself. That is what users said back when the S7 edge came out. Go search and you will see that.
 
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Yep, and there was an article that said more Android users are switching to iPhone than the other way.
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I've owned probably more than you. The s7 edge was great the first year, till it got the 1st O/S update, then it went to crap. And don't give me that line either. Most Android users will say that and then say yeah the latest phone s8 or s9 will not have that issue. Guess what, history repeats itself. That is what users said back when the S7 edge came out. Go search and you will see that.
If you think the S7 was lagfree out of the box you don't know what lagfree means. Samsung only just got a handle on the Lag issues when the Note 8 was released with the updated version of Samsung experience. That same new version of Samsung experience fixed my S8 when it was updated to Oreo. The S7 was a laggy POS from day 1.
 
If you think the S7 was lagfree out of the box you don't know what lagfree means. Samsung only just got a handle on the Lag issues when the Note 8 was released with the updated version of Samsung experience. That same new version of Samsung experience fixed my S8 when it was updated to Oreo. The S7 was a laggy POS from day 1.

Maybe for you, but not for most people. Read the androidcentral forums.
 
Maybe for you, but not for most people. Read the androidcentral forums.
I don't need to read any forum, me and 2 mates all owned the S7 and we all had the same Lag. I will admit at first i thought it was ok and actually posted on here saying it ran like butter but after a few weeks it got worse and worse. The experience on the S7 compared to my S9 is night and day, i cant stress this enough.
 
Samsung fanboys always back them, you’re right. The difference is that even the stock android fans out there are realizing Samsung have turned a corner. A galaxy s4, s5 and s6? Pretty horrible experience with a phone that over heated and lagged like mad. Once the s7 came out, they improved. The s8 was even better. Then came the note 8 and the s9 that are 2 of the next phones on the market. The budget Samsung phones are garbage, but they’re $200 or something like that. It’s cool for people to hate on Samsung and apple, but there’s a reason they are the top 2 brands. The s9+ is a killer phone. The days of touchwiz lag ruining the experience are over.
People hate on samsung and Apple because they are the top two brands. It’s human nature. I for one love my iPhone, and can respect the Samsung users.

Moto, LG, and the other guys don’t make bad phones either. They’re all about personal preference.
 
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I don't need to read any forum, me and 2 mates all owned the S7 and we all had the same Lag. I will admit at first i thought it was ok and actually posted on here saying it ran like butter but after a few weeks it got worse and worse. The experience on the S7 compared to my S9 is night and day, i cant stress this enough.

I can't say for s7, but my older note 5 has no lag. Of course it is not as fast as my S8+. If you are comparing s7 to newer models then the s7 slower performance may be lag to you.
 
The 8+ is an excellent choice. I’m assuming the “constant bugs and issues” are what pushed you over to an iPhone, but did you consider any other newer Android phones before making the purchase?

Also, what case is that?

I've had my share of bugs and issues on my 8 plus. I think the op did what we all have done at one time or the other. Thought the grass was greener on the other side so they gave it a try.

The rule for switching operating systems is you have to find a problem with your existing operating system before you can switch. Thats the rule. My 80 year old dad is famous for that. He starts off complaining about little things, and then convinces himself that there is something wrong with his phone and he needs a new one. He gets a new phone, and then repeats the scenario down the road. Usually happens around the same time a new model comes out.
 
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Oreo 8.1 after a clean install and not restoring. Then decide. It often returns the phone to running bug free and new.

Restoring may or may not bring back problems .
 
People hate on samsung and Apple because they are the top two brands. It’s human nature. I for one love my iPhone, and can respect the Samsung users.

Moto, LG, and the other guys don’t make bad phones either. They’re all about personal preference.
This, the strongest non-subjective arguement I have for sticking with the Apple ecosystem are the security and privacy issues.*


*I still have a Facebook account but if I knew then what I know now I would never have joined - still too many of my far flung family are on it.
 
I agree with Tonybarnaby. I think Samsung‘s hardware is very good, as as Apples. Their software is very much different from iOS, and offers a different experience. From where Android was approximately 5/6 years ago, it wasn’t the greatest experience. But where it is today, it’s massively improved. But in terms of iOS versus android, it’s all preference of what somebody has invested into their ecosystem and what they like about the two different operating platforms. I find those who are true to iOS want a simplistic, straightforward experience with security and stabilization. Android offers a lot more customization and freedom to utilize their preferences much differently than iOS. Both are ‘good’ operating platforms, it’s just really want a matter of someone prefers, but iOS has always been my preference.

I currently use both and each has their pros and cons but overall you can do the same things on both platforms. Blind fanboyism does nobody any good, it's good to recognize that the perfect device and software does not exist.

iOS still retains a lot of its old stupidity like not having the ability to choose default apps and could use more customizable settings for a lot of things as well as a file system that makes sense. Its default keyboard is downright horrible for some languages as for example Finnish still doesn't have prediction and I have to use Swiftkey for that which is also not made to work well with an iPad. Same with Gboard. App Store is a bag of **** as an app with updates often failing on first try and search giving even less useful results than Google's Play Store. The 150 MB cellular limit is also totally stupid in a country where unlimited LTE is regular.

Android varies wildly based on manufacturer skins in both features and performance. Most have started becoming closer to stock Android while providing some useful extra features, which I approve because stock Android is a bit lacking for my tastes. Totally gimmick features are no longer as prominent. Tablet support is low so my choice for that is an iPad. Updates are still an issue but there haven't been any killer features in the last few Android versions. I'm still on Android 7.1 on my phone and can't be bothered to install another custom ROM as everything works perfectly fine and I am not missing any feature.

As far as devices go, the main issue for me is cost. An iPhone X, Samsung S9 or any other expensive flagship really doesn't do anything more than my 2 year old Oneplus 3. Better cameras and higher performance for sure but that does not translate to anything in everyday real-world use so why would I pay 3x more for little improvement? I might consider an iPhone X for my next phone because I like the size but only at a much reduced price. Almost got an S9 when they were selling for 600 euros some time ago over here.
 
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Samsung fanboys say that every year doesn’t make it true.

Samsung fanboys have come a long way since a few years ago. Their claims and predictions are much more accurate now. The difference is night and day. /joke
 
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That is interesting because my Verizon S9 received the June 1, 2018 security patch a couple of weeks ago. I think it's related to the carrier, not Samsung.

There were no security updates for any US Galaxy S9 versions since the February update rolled out sometime in March. There's speculation that Samsung may be moving to a quarterly update schedule, despite the fact that security updates are issued monthly.
 
There were no security updates for any US Galaxy S9 versions since the February update rolled out sometime in March. There's speculation that Samsung may be moving to a quarterly update schedule, despite the fact that security updates are issued monthly.
That's not correct as I have received the June 1, 2018 on my S9.
 
That's not correct as I have received the June 1, 2018 on my S9.

Sorry about that, let me clarify (that's what I get for typing too fast!). There have been no security updates between the February update and the June one that has just rolled out.
 
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Sorry about that, let me clarify (that's what I get for typing too fast!). There have been no security updates between the February update and the June one that has just rolled out.
Oh I see what you're saying now. I'm sorry I was not getting it. Since the device has only been out a few months, I'm holding out hope they will get this down to a faster rollout.
 
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