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Oh I see what you're saying now. I'm sorry I was not getting it. Since the device has only been out a few months, I'm holding out hope they will get this down to a faster rollout.

There's a rumor flying around that either Samsung or the US carriers may be shifting to quarterly updates with the S9, as the S7 and S8 have been receiving monthly updates.
 
Maybe for you, but not for most people. Read the androidcentral forums.

Yup your right.

Note 8 not starting, recovery unresponsive,

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sh...tral.com/showthread.php?t=892877&share_type=t

Note 8 Ultra poor battery life

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sh...tral.com/showthread.php?t=879985&share_type=t

Note 8 since Oreo Update

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sh...tral.com/showthread.php?t=890919&share_type=t


After This, I Will Never Let One of My Customers Leave with a Samsung Device

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sh...tral.com/showthread.php?t=893723&share_type=t
 
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I don't need to read any forum, me and 2 mates all owned the S7 and we all had the same Lag. I will admit at first i thought it was ok and actually posted on here saying it ran like butter but after a few weeks it got worse and worse. The experience on the S7 compared to my S9 is night and day, i cant stress this enough.

But you did post that it was lag free just like your posting that the note 8 will remain lag free.
 
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Bought my wife a new galaxy S9 plus and my forehand has a note 8. (I’ve an iPhone X)
Here are my comments:

Since I bought the phone. Wife has already replaced the S9 once due to poor battery life and phone over heating

I’m a phone addict and would love to play with all phones I haven’t touched her phone once. Just can’t stand the UI
My friend has only complaints about note 8. Dismal battery life and choppy Bluetooth are his main complaints.
But both Samsung phones have amazing camera. Particularly the low light pictures. They blow away my phones pictures in low light
I’ve used pixel 2 for a while. But Samsung.?? No thanks. Don’t think I’ll be going back to android for now.
 
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I always had an android as a backup/second phone alongside my iPhone until last year when I bought the 8 then the X. I got fed up with android - it needed constant babying to resolve issues with apps/updates, the hardware etc. I even had the Nexus 9 (the worst tablet I've ever owned). So I went all Apple.

Today I feel fine that all my devices are the same system, I like the stability, the security and straightforwardness - I also love my MacBook and will never go back to Android. I think you made the right decision.

I gave in and bought an Honor 10 as the reviews and the price were right. Mainly for music with the aptXHD codec and 128GB of space.
 
Been using Android for a long time, but I finally got sick of it. I had the Galaxy Note 5 and was very happy with it. Lately though there was constant bugs and issues having to always factory reset or clear the cache. Ugh...enough.

So yesterday I traded in my beloved Note for the iPhone 8+. Gorgeous phone, very powerful, fast, better all around everything. Plus it will integrate better with my iPad Pro.

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Congratulations for leaving Android the most insecured operating systems due to open development platform and welcome to the most secured OS!! You made the best decision ever. In many fraud and information security conferences, Android devices are discouraged to be used for security reason due to high vulnerability.
 
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I gave in and bought an Honor 10 as the reviews and the price were right. Mainly for music with the aptXHD codec and 128GB of space.
I wish I could just buy a midrange android device and use it with my iPhone. I start off everytime saying I’m going to get a midrange one and then I look at them and start thinking that I’m missing out on something and then end up with Samsung’s latest flagship. Same thing every year.
 
I wish I could just buy a midrange android device and use it with my iPhone. I start off everytime saying I’m going to get a midrange one and then I look at them and start thinking that I’m missing out on something and then end up with Samsung’s latest flagship. Same thing every year.

I did that last year with the Samsung S8 but this time i think I got a bargain at less than half the price. The Honor 10 is more like a flagship than a mid-range device.
 
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Congratulations for leaving Android the most insecured operating systems due to open development platform and welcome to the most secured OS!! You made the best decision ever. In many fraud and information security conferences, Android devices are discouraged to be used for security reason due to high vulnerability.

Really??
 
Congratulations for leaving Android the most insecured operating systems due to open development platform and welcome to the most secured OS!! You made the best decision ever. In many fraud and information security conferences, Android devices are discouraged to be used for security reason due to high vulnerability.

This post seems a bit extreme. Yes, iOS is known its excellent encryption standards, but you’re making it sound like everyone in the Android system has been hacked. Android is still fairly secure and Its not as vulnerbale as you’re making it appear.
 
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This post seems a bit extreme. Yes, iOS is known its excellent encryption standards, but you’re making it sound like everyone in the Android system has been hacked. Android is still fairly secure and Its not as vulnerbale as you’re making it appear.

He is dead serious. I've been to the conferences and literally you have people hacking your devices and Androids are the ones they hack. iOS devices seem to not be affected by it. Our security guys leave their Android devices behind and take an iOS device with them to the conferences because of this. DEF-CON is one of the conferences I am speaking about.
 
I had iPhones before and no issues with them. Currently I have a Note 8 and I like the device no issue with it either.
However I do miss think I prefer Mac over my Windows laptop...
My iPad has started to get slow but it is over 5 years old.
I also am a fan of the Apple Watch over their Android counterparts... I have been debating whether to switch back to Apple or not... There are some things I do miss about the software and some things I hate.

I've had an iPhone 3G and a 6S+. After the 3G I switched to Android. Had Android for a few years and I went back to an iPhone so I could easily Facetime my parents who are in failing health. Had the phone for a while and decided I missed Android to much. Went back and after 3 different Android phones I'm contemplating switching back again to an iPhone. One reason is, and I'm going by just what Apple claims, security. I may be wrong but I think Google sells every bit of info on me to someone. I'm hoping Apple doesn't. Also, I'm 99% sure I'll be buying an iMac for my next computer and an iPhone will work smoother with that. I too love stuff about Apple's software and other stuff I hate, like not being able to put the icons anywhere I want on a page without them snapping to the highest spot available. And with as much money as Apple has, how about making it easier to make your own ringtones instead of having to buy them?
 
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I've had an iPhone 3G and a 6S+. After the 3G I switched to Android. Had Android for a few years and I went back to an iPhone so I could easily Facetime my parents who are in failing health. Had the phone for a while and decided I missed Android to much. Went back and after 3 different Android phones I'm contemplating switching back again to an iPhone. One reason is, and I'm going by just what Apple claims, security. I may be wrong but I think Google sells every bit of info on me to someone. I'm hoping Apple doesn't. Also, I'm 99% sure I'll be buying an iMac for my next computer and an iPhone will work smoother with that. I too love stuff about Apple's software and other stuff I hate, like not being able to put the icons anywhere I want on a page without them snapping to the highest spot available. And with as much money as Apple has, how about making it easier to make your own ringtones instead of having to buy them?
You can have your own ring tones using itunes. Search on google how to do it. I have a few custom ones.
 
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The only thing I disagree with is the whole one ecosystem argument; I’m very happy using my Pixel 2 and iPad Pro. Been mixing it up for years and the only thing I stay away from is Apple Message.
 
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This post seems a bit extreme. Yes, iOS is known its excellent encryption standards, but you’re making it sound like everyone in the Android system has been hacked. Android is still fairly secure and Its not as vulnerbale as you’re making it appear.

That's the problem with such an open source system, it is very susceptible to hacking. Watch some of the videos from DEF CONs and you will see.
 
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That's the problem with such an open source system, it is very susceptible to hacking. Watch some of the videos from DEF CONs and you will see.

That's utter nonsense. A good Open Source system is the most secure system, as others can review the code for vulnerabilities. Android is less secure than iOS because of lack of updates by manufacturers and/or carriers, a whole of different forked versions of it, and various closed source cruft and crud put on top of it, and because it is far more customizable and extensible than iOS, but NOT because part of it is open source.

I'm a bit of an Android fan, I've had one iPhone that lasted 4+ years, and 5 Android phones that I've used collectively about that long. However, I would have to say that Samsung phones have so many weird bugs, and their longevity isn't hat great compared to iPhones. An iPhone is probably a better overall investment if you have the dough, as it will last longer.

I have a Galaxy S7 right now, which has had battery life issues, battery longevity issues, and a bunch of weird bugs, like Google Messages getting so slow it was unusable, so I went with Textra. I don't know what my next phone will be. I like the experience of the iPhone, but if they don't release a Qualcomm version of the iPhone XI with 4x4 MIMO and B14, then it's an absolute no-go for me. I've not giving up network performance for iOS. I also want to see what direction Apple is going, as I'm afraid a few years down the line I'd have to switch back if Apple stops using Qualcomm modems entirely, or be stuck for 5+ years on the last of the Qualcomm iPhones until it stops getting software updates, or until I have to have a phone with 5G NR in it.
 
That's utter nonsense. A good Open Source system is the most secure system, as others can review the code for vulnerabilities. Android is less secure than iOS because of lack of updates by manufacturers and/or carriers, a whole of different forked versions of it, and various closed source cruft and crud put on top of it, and because it is far more customizable and extensible than iOS, but NOT because part of it is open source.

I'm a bit of an Android fan, I've had one iPhone that lasted 4+ years, and 5 Android phones that I've used collectively about that long. However, I would have to say that Samsung phones have so many weird bugs, and their longevity isn't hat great compared to iPhones. An iPhone is probably a better overall investment if you have the dough, as it will last longer.

I have a Galaxy S7 right now, which has had battery life issues, battery longevity issues, and a bunch of weird bugs, like Google Messages getting so slow it was unusable, so I went with Textra. I don't know what my next phone will be. I like the experience of the iPhone, but if they don't release a Qualcomm version of the iPhone XI with 4x4 MIMO and B14, then it's an absolute no-go for me. I've not giving up network performance for iOS. I also want to see what direction Apple is going, as I'm afraid a few years down the line I'd have to switch back if Apple stops using Qualcomm modems entirely, or be stuck for 5+ years on the last of the Qualcomm iPhones until it stops getting software updates, or until I have to have a phone with 5G NR in it.

Seriously do people not research? It is not non-sense. You haven't been to these conferences. Open Source is the worst for hacking as it allows hackers to break into it easier. GOOGLE it if you don't believe me or the other guy. I've seen it at DEF-CON people just hacking into Android devices with ease where it takes a lot to do it on an iOS device or BlackBerry.

Android has many things that make it less secure. Open Source, lack of updates, after 2 years on some, no more updates.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/android-google-ios-security-report,news-26783.html

Very obvious you are an android fan in this post. I am as well and I own iOS devices.

Def-Con and Android.

https://www.computerworld.com/artic...g-with-the-worlds-most-dangerous-network.html

Learn about how deadly this conference is to devices you bring.

https://www.engadget.com/2015/08/11/surviving-def-con/
 
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Android has many things that make it less secure. Open Source, lack of updates, after 2 years on some, no more updates

I think you’re misunderstanding some of the quotes in this thread. No one is arguing that Android is less secure or not believing you, I think others are indicating that with the millions of android devices sold annually, it’s _not_ like everyone is experiencing hacked chaos where they’re dropping android and selecting iOS for that reason alone. Yes, we understand and its already been acknowledged iOS encryption standards are some of the best, but I don’t think it takes the desire away from somebody wanting to purchase an android device just because it only has “two years of updates or “Open source.” Anecdotally, I would say generally the average consumer is perfectly safe with an android device, but every situation is different with vulnerability for someone trying to infiltrate their personal data.

Android or iOS, it doesn’t matter, you have to see *both* sides of the spectrum in terms of Smart phone security generally has improved greatly with android, and I wouldn’t hesitate to use one of their devices or be thwarted away just because “I might be hacked”. And yes, I use iOS and have been years.

I also want to add that It depends on what type of field you’re in that you might want to consider iOS depending how sensitive the data is on your phone that you can’t take the risk of being infiltrated, but again, it’s all variable based on the individual, employment, ect.
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Learn about how deadly this conference is to devices you bring.

https://www.engadget.com/2015/08/11/surviving-def-con/

Genuinely curious, How many “average consumers” visit a Def-con conference? Not that its not educational or informative, but does that change millions of android users perspective based on something that may never experience with their Android usage.
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Seriously do people not research?

As in the average consumer? Do you expect the average consumer to actually take the time or willingly having understanding of their android device being hacked? It likely takes the victim for them to fully understand if that’s the case if they were hacked, but you can’t expect “People” to openly Google something that they don’t know or are ignorant of. Most consumers are not that tech oriented.
 
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I think you’re misunderstanding some of the quotes in this thread. No one is arguing that Android is less secure or not believing you, I think others are indicating that with the millions of android devices sold annually, it’s _not_ like everyone is experiencing hacked chaos where they’re dropping android and selecting iOS for that reason alone. Yes, we understand and its already been acknowledged iOS encryption standards are some of the best, but I don’t think it takes the desire away from somebody wanting to purchase an android device just because it only has “two years of updates or “Open source.” Anecdotally, I would say generally the average consumer is perfectly safe with an android device, but every situation is different with vulnerability for someone trying to infiltrate their personal data.

Android or iOS, it doesn’t matter, you have to see *both* sides of the spectrum in terms of Smart phone security generally has improved greatly with android, and I wouldn’t hesitate to use one of their devices or be thwarted away just because “I might be hacked”. And yes, I use iOS and have been years.

I also want to add that It depends on what type of field you’re in that you might want to consider iOS depending how sensitive the data is on your phone that you can’t take the risk of being infiltrated, but again, it’s all variable based on the individual, employment, ect.
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Genuinely curious, How many “average consumers” visit a Def-con conference? Not that its not educational or informative, but does that change millions of android users perspective based on something that may never experience with their Android usage.
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As in the average consumer? Do you expect the average consumer to actually take the time or willingly having understanding of their android device being hacked? It likely takes the victim for them to fully understand if that’s the case if they were hacked, but you can’t expect “People” to openly Google something that they don’t know or are ignorant of. Most consumers are not that tech oriented.

I agree, for the normal consumer, it is fine. I even have my work phone as a s9+ but my personal was a Note 8, but now a iPhone X. But like mentioned, I wouldn't dare take my Android phone to that conference or if I did, all WIFI, NFC, Bluetooth is disabled. Even the phone maybe turned off while around the conference area. It is that unsecure as that is what the conference is about and many will hack your phones while you are there.
 
I agree, for the normal consumer, it is fine. I even have my work phone as a s9+ but my personal was a Note 8, but now a iPhone X. But like mentioned, I wouldn't dare take my Android phone to that conference or if I did, all WIFI, NFC, Bluetooth is disabled. Even the phone maybe turned off while around the conference area. It is that unsecure as that is what the conference is about and many will hack your phones while you are there.
Why do you have an android phone for work if you can’t use it at work related conferences?
 
There is no right or wrong answer here. It is all based on subjective personal variables. Many here are debating as if said variables are constant between all consumers.

I don't know why so many feel compelled to make public service announcements about things as menial as switching to another brand of phone. It is akin to posting to the forum that you drank Coca-Cola for 10 years and finally decided to start drinking Pepsi.
 
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There isn't a right or wrong, the choice for most is purely user preference. There are strong cases for and against either though. Android is very susceptible, but for the general public it is inconsequential as their data is only of value/important to them. I like a secure device and will forego the open source and broader support for/from 3rd party sources to obtain such securities, as the end user that is my preference. The iPhone meets all of my current needs except size, really wish the current offerings were smaller, but for everything else its good. If it didn't I wouldn't keep buying them, and I'd be over on some other web forum.
 
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