Google I/O 2016

[Cnasty]

Maybe I am in the minority but I reeeeeeally don't care about VR and will be just another passing trend like 3D TVs and when VR failed the first time.

But that's just my take and I may be acting like an old man.

 

[nviz22]

Google seemed to be trying too hard to 'get down wid da kidz' and produce a 'cool' app rather than just delivering us the improved messaging / hangouts app we actually want.

Well, at least it got better with the encryption discussion. At first, I was like why an emoji keyboard app -> emoji messaging app???

 

[MRU]

Maybe I am in the minority but I reeeeeeally don't care about VR and will be just another passing trend like 3D TVs and when VR failed the first time.

But that's just my take and I may be acting like an old man.

It's the buzz right now and will have a nice little following but will never be 'mainstream'... For much the same reason 3D TV never took off, but amplified by the additional cost per user ....

 

[nviz22]

I am not sure how it is anything like iMessage given that it doesn't integrate with SMS, doesn't have a desktop app, etc, etc. It is just another "third party" messaging app.

Maybe one day this will be a part of their RCS platform called Jibe. Then it could be standard for SMS at the OS level. But chances are this is just another confusing implementation of messaging from Google.

With such a crowded field of messaging apps, I just don't get it right now.

Their explanation?

So my hopes are certainly dashed right now. iMessage is possibly the biggest feature I use on iOS. My Galaxy has the best hardware, but the SMS app is 2nd tier. iMessaging is something I miss daily. I am torn between what phone to take on vacation next month between my S7 Edge and iPhone 6S Plus. The Plus is probably going to get me better signal since iPhones have done better in the past for me. But the S7's amazing camera, VR feature (can show it off to family for fun), slick design could mean for a device to do more stuff with. I guess I gotta check if I can even get service w/ T-Mobile in Canada since my S7 Edge isn't going to be unlocked for awhile.

 

[epicrayban]

http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/19/11711704/android-n-new-features

Apparently Android N will introduce theming to keyboards, too. The Verge saw it fit to call this one of the 8 biggest new Android N features. : shrug :

 

[Dreamliner330]

Google clearly does not understand simplification. The numerous chat related apps show that.

How difficult is it to fully integrate a product similar to hangouts or whatever that would also do video calling, bind to your email and work across devices like tablets and chrome on a computer.

It's so simple and would be a better version of iMessage (you need a Mac to use iMessage from a computer, you'd just need Chrome with my solution).

ONE fully functioning app, not 4 that sort of work.

 

[617aircav]

Google clearly does not understand simplification. The numerous chat related apps show that.

How difficult is it to fully integrate a product similar to hangouts or whatever that would also do video calling, bind to your email and work across devices like tablets and chrome on a computer.

It's so simple and would be a better version of iMessage (you need a Mac to use iMessage from a computer, you'd just need Chrome with my solution).

ONE fully functioning app, not 4 that sort of work.

This is a what's app competitor totally different from hangouts.

 

[Dreamliner330]

This is a what's app competitor totally different from hangouts.

Doesn't matter, what google is doing now is total crap and they will kill some of these apps and one day do exactly what I said. Its inevitable.

Messaging is about connecting. Not using 17 apps to communicate.

 

[epicrayban]

No one at Google I/O asked them about their plans for Allo, Hangouts, Messenger, etc. after the event? Don't they usually do press or field questions or something?

I'd like to know what Google's game plan (or lackthereof) is for Allo and all those other messenger apps floating around. Surely they can't be daft to the fact that there are so many...

 

[Surf Donkey]

No one at Google I/O asked them about their plans for Allo, Hangouts, Messenger, etc. after the event? Don't they usually do press or field questions or something?

I'd like to know what Google's game plan (or lackthereof) is for Allo and all those other messenger apps floating around. Surely they can't be daft to the fact that there are so many...

They confirmed that Hangouts will continue to be developed as part of the ecosystem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...emain-as-a-separate-app-in-googles-ecosystem/

 

[epicrayban]

They confirmed that Hangouts will continue to be developed as part of the ecosystem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...emain-as-a-separate-app-in-googles-ecosystem/

Thanks for sharing. Still wish someone really pressed Google on the subject on why there are so many messenger apps. Very peculiar moves by Google, but sadly not uncharacteristic of them.

And if they plan to remove SMS from Hangouts... which would then force users to get Messenger and/or Allo... well, that'll just piss off a lot of people, myself included. If Google plans to eventually add the features Allo is currently missing, they better do it BEFORE they ruin Hangouts.

This all makes very little sense...
[doublepost=1463681716][/doublepost]BOOM: http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/19/11714334/google-allo-messaging-app-hangouts-chaos

Google, you readin' this?

The press really needs to drill Google on this. Hopefully then, this will get them to integrate SMS and desktop continuity features that Allo is sorely missing.


The Verge: Why Google's Allo messaging app is a big step backwards

 

[jman240]

Some interesting news there. I kind of was shocked at a keyboard and handwriting recognition on android wear. Kind of amazing that their watch OS can do that when Apple's $1000 tablet that promoted a pencil accessory can't.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Doesn't matter, what google is doing now is total crap and they will kill some of these apps and one day do exactly what I said. Its inevitable.

Messaging is about connecting. Not using 17 apps to communicate.

I disagree. I think Allo and Duo were made for the long term. I will speculate and say Allo will become the most used messenger and SMS app of Android and remain that for a good period of time.

Some interesting news there. I kind of was shocked at a keyboard and handwriting recognition on android wear. Kind of amazing that their watch OS can do that when Apple's $1000 tablet that promoted a pencil accessory can't.

Android 2.0 is looking good. I might try Android Wear next, instead of getting another Gear watch. I only have experience so far with Samsung Tizen Watches.

 

[epicrayban]

I disagree. I think Allo and Duo were made for the long term. I will speculate and say Allo will become the most used messenger and SMS app of Android and remain that for a good period of time.

It would've helped their chances at doing this if they integrated the features that make other messaging apps so strong. Until then, I don't know if Allo's features alone merit such an optimistic prediction. Why do you think it'll succeed in its current incarnation?

Or maybe you meant eventually as in after they've added these missing features (SMS, desktop continuation, etc)?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

It would've helped their chances at doing this if they integrated the features that make other messaging apps so strong. Until then, I don't know if Allo's features alone merit such an optimistic prediction. Why do you think it'll succeed in its current incarnation?

Or maybe you meant eventually as in after they've added these missing features (SMS, desktop continuation, etc)?

Just being an already installed system app and based off the users phone number is the major reasons. Added with the features already shown.

Both Allo and Duo which are integrated together and system wide, so it's a no brainer it will be widely used, even if SMS isn't integrated into it yet. The majority of people use Android, so you'll have plenty of users just using Allo and Duo with other Android users. And Duo is also available on iOS, so it'll be even more widespread of usage.

Hangouts was too robust and buggy for users. Separate dedicated apps that integrate with each other is much more inviting to users. And support for the apps can be more focused.

All I said above is the reason why I think Allo along with Duo will succeed.

IMO ... Maybe Google is playing it safe and will add SMS integration shortly after. I think Google put to much effort into Allo and Duo for it to fail.

 

[epicrayban]

Just being an already installed system app and based off the users phone number is the major reasons. Added with the features already shown.

Both Allo and Duo which are integrated together and system wide, so it's a no brainer it will be widely used, even if SMS isn't integrated into it yet. The majority of people use Android, so you'll have plenty of users just using Allo and Duo with other Android users. And Duo is also available on iOS, so it'll be even more widespread of usage.

Hangouts was too robust and buggy for users. Separate dedicated apps that integrate with each other is much more inviting to users. And support for the apps can be more focused.

All I said above is the reason why I think Allo along with Duo will succeed.

IMO ... Maybe Google is playing it safe and will add SMS integration shortly after. I think Google put to much effort into Allo and Duo for it to fail.

Interesting take. I appreciate the answer.

 

[The Game 161]

rumours note 6 might ship with android N

 

[MRU]

rumours note 6 might ship with android N

There is always that rumour every year with the note series & new android, and it never is realised.

Samsung is already said to be compiling firmware for the Note 6. There frankly isn't a hope that they will have Android N on it at launch. It will be going into manufacturer in at most a months time to enable an August release schedule. It will have to have some build ready for then, it certainly won't be Android N.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Snowden: Don’t use Google Allo
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/0...ption/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

“Google’s decision to disable end-to-end encryption by default in its new #Allo chat app is dangerous, and makes it unsafe,” Snowden said on Twitter.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Snowden: Don’t use Google Allo
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/0...ption/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

“Google’s decision to disable end-to-end encryption by default in its new #Allo chat app is dangerous, and makes it unsafe,” Snowden said on Twitter.

That is kind of a "no duh?". It has a search assistant built in and automated replies. Not sure how that could be done with end to end encryption. It is literally the feature of the app.

 

[epicrayban]

How does Snowden feel about Google Home that is "always listening"?
[doublepost=1463760891][/doublepost]The Verge demos Android app on Chromebook:

And demonstrating Instant Apps, which is kind of interesting:

 

[gotluck]

That is kind of a "no duh?". It has a search assistant built in and automated replies. Not sure how that could be done with end to end encryption. It is literally the feature of the app.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, I think he is just trying to build awareness. Most people don't seem to really 'get' encryption

 

[Surf Donkey]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, I think he is just trying to build awareness. Most people probably don't seem to really 'get' encryption

Yeah, true. Same could be said for every Google app though. Guess just seems obvious when Google tells you when to leave for the airport because you have a flight

Supposedly incognito mode is true end to end, but nobody should use any chat app provided free by an advertising company if they are worried about being read.

How does Snowden feel about Google Home that is "always listening"?

Yeah, seems just as big or more of a concern than Allo? I mean, if surveillance is the concern, the government must love that they can monitor homes and Google is actually getting people to pay for them

Just go in your google account and listen to every time you said "OK Google". The whole history is right there for you to listen to recorded and stored on their servers.

 

[Fernandez21]

There is always that rumour every year with the note series & new android, and it never is realised.

Samsung is already said to be compiling firmware for the Note 6. There frankly isn't a hope that they will have Android N on it at launch. It will be going into manufacturer in at most a months time to enable an August release schedule. It will have to have some build ready for then, it certainly won't be Android N.

Yup, I just hope we won't have to wait so long for N afterwards. Can't believe at&t still hasn't released it yet.

 

[Tig Bitties]

The U.S. versions of the Note 6, won't be seeing Android 7.0 "N" until like March / April 2017.

And that's not a joke, but reality.