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HOLY FRACK ROUND TWO:
http://androidandme.com/2013/05/news/htc-employee-teases-stock-android-htc-one/
HTC employee teases Google Experience HTC One
In an HTC tweet: So you can pay $649 for a piece of plastic running stock or... You can wait
It's potentially already beginning...
Maybe this is the fruition of that rumor back in 2012 that there would be "five Nexus" devices from the main Android OEMs. Maybe this is the realization of that rumor.
:O
There's an update in the article:
My god! This sounds very interesting.HOLY FRACK ROUND TWO:
http://androidandme.com/2013/05/news/htc-employee-teases-stock-android-htc-one/
HTC employee teases Google Experience HTC One
In an HTC tweet: So you can pay $649 for a piece of plastic running stock or... You can wait
It's potentially already beginning...
Maybe this is the fruition of that rumor back in 2012 that there would be "five Nexus" devices from the main Android OEMs. Maybe this is the realization of that rumor.
:O
I think Leigh should be fired.
But seriously, what the heck is she talking about then "just wait"?
I thought this is how it goes too. Which is why I think this is good news for Android fragmentation.
Again, the S4 already exists. It's just now existing with stock Android allowing more people to be up to date with Android.
As soon as more people get onto JB or whatever, there'll be a new version of Android that a lot of devices won't be updated to!
Fragmentation will not reduce until devices being released with stock Android becomes the norm and skins are applied afterwards, if desired.
The fact that all these manufacturers seem to be releasing stock counterparts is great -- for the people who buy the stock models. It does nothing to solve fragmentation for the people who buy the outdated, skinned versions.
This is a response to all of the quotes above.
I think Leigh should be fired.
But seriously, what the heck is she talking about then "just wait"?
They're making a One+ in the fall with a bigger battery and faster processor
I see your point.
I guess stock GS4 helps fragmentation in an indirect way. It gives people the option to address the highlighted concerns above in your post.
It gives people who know about and care about fragmentation another out, another option beyond the Nexus device. Doesn't fix the whole problem but fragmentation can't be eliminated entirely anyway. Just not possible with Google's model and philosophy for Android.
Offering more stock options is, in many ways, the only way to "fix" fragmentation. More options.
It certainly doesn't add to the fragmentation either. Again, maybe adds to the confusion, but people will figure it out.
Again, I don't think you have a full understanding of what fragmentation is, or its effects. Perhaps you should re-read my response to you (that you quoted), as your response isn't really an appropriate response to what I said.
Fragmentation is only a problem to some of the people who frequent these type of boards, in the real world it is a non issue.
I addressed it by suggesting skins should be installable afterwards rather than included with a device.
That way every device would be stock to begin with and updating to the latest version of Android would remove the skin until the manufacturer updates it. Google could then handle all updates which would reduce fragmentation.
It's not rocket science and I'm not talking in code. Throw me a bone here.
So... you say this increases fragmentation, but also say that the only way to reduce it is to get more devices with stock Android out there. This won't solve the problem of getting older devices onto a newer Android.
This solves the problem where somebody wants to get S4 hardware and can now get updates faster. That's how this deals with fragmentation.
You haven't even sad how measures like this will increase fragmentation, at least not in a way that makes any sense. The more people buy stock, the more stock options there are, which then sells more stock version.
Get it?
Your suggestion would be one that would have people having multiple experiences on a single device. That would lead to much confusion for the average person. The average person isn't concerned with the latest OS version, but they are concerned with their experience on a single device being consistent. They don't want to go from Sense 5 to stock Android and back to Sense 5. They definitely don't want to have to be aware of when Sense 6 releases so they don't update to the new version until the next skin is released. That would needlessly add confusion into the equation. Again, I don't think you fully understand what fragmentation is, or what it's effects and impacts are. I don't think you understand that fragmentation in itself is not inherently a bad thing. It seems you are stuck on the word fragmentation itself, and the negative connotation of it. What you have to understand is what fragmentation is as a whole, and how people are or are not affected by it. For example, a person that buys the cheapest Android phone available will most likely not have the latest version of Android. According to you this is a fragmentation issue. In reality, it is not, as the person who purchases that phone does not put a premium on having the latest and greatest. Instead, that person puts a premium on affordability. Is there fragmentation? Sure. Is it a negative thing in that instance? No. In closing, you may want to take the time to gain a full understanding of fragmentation (with all due respect). Once you fully understand what it truly is, and that it isn't inherently negative, you will then understand why something like a Nexus style GS4 does not add to it at all (and actually is the opposite).
I said this earlier and this thread has been going really fast so in case anyone missed it:
Offering more stock Android options is, in many ways, the only way to "fix" fragmentation.
You'll never truly eliminate fragmentation on Android. That's a pipe dream. But try to put stock Android into more people's hands? This is good.
Offering more stock Android options is, in many ways, the only way to "fix" fragmentation.
You'll never truly eliminate fragmentation on Android. That's a pipe dream. But try to put stock Android into more people's hands? This is good.
Is anyone able to find the "Hangouts" app on their iPad? I can't find it.
I'm having trouble on my HTC One.....I still have Talk and when I search Hangouts in the play store, it says I already have it installed.....no option to "update".....
Actually it will, because older Google devices still get more version updates than older devices by other manufacturers.
The average person wouldn't update to a skin.
It's not just cheap phones that get left behind though, flagships do too after a couple of versions.
I know exactly what fragmentation is and don't need to 'gain a full understanding' as I already know what it is. There are lots of different devices with different screen sizes/resolutions, different features, sensors, etc., some have MicroSD slots, others don't, they run varying versions of Android, etc. This means there are apps that work for some phones and not others. This is fragmentation.
The more I read about Hangouts, the better it sounds.
It also has one huge advantage over iMessage: it's cross platform.
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Ditto.
Probably still rolling out.
It also has one huge advantage over iMessage: it's cross platform.
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Ditto.
Probably still rolling out.
Cool - I got the other updates, but hadn't got that one so I was wondering.....
All access seems cool. Signed up for the trial to check it out. Already though its missing some music I wanted to listen to.....The Great Gatsby soundtrack only has 7 songs in it on Play......theres more than 15 on iTunes - and all the ones I was hoping to listen to aren't there.
Will test for 30 days, but won't likely keep it. Need to see what Apple does - they still have the most beastly library out there.
im gona stick with my whatsapp, my contacts aren't even on google (i use outlook previously hotmail yeah sue me) and my other contacts are on facebook so
no thanks... i don't need to manage yet another list re-add friends, and have to manage a buddy list is a pain in the ass, yesterday i thought how bbm was going to fail nowadays with the horrible PIN-addy system, whatsapp or imessage just do things automatically with the phone number
no thanks... i don't need to manage yet another list re-add friends, and have to manage a buddy list is a pain in the ass, yesterday i thought how bbm was going to fail nowadays with the horrible PIN-addy system, whatsapp or imessage just do things automatically with the phone number
The HTC dev edition is not running nexus aka pure android and doesn't get updates from google