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So we should just have fewer stock because some people are stupid and develop to specific handsets?
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So we should just have fewer stock because some people are stupid and develop to specific handsets?
Not exactly exactly, but very good example nonetheless.
Seriously, all that has happened today is that stock Android is more readily available as a choice.
And like I said, the Google version of the phone will always get the latest version of Android before the Touchwiz version. It will also get more versions.
Looks like fragmentation to me.
Bah, it would make this completely misleading:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4333406/android-4-3-confirmed-google-developer-site
On a side note, I'm kind of upset that I missed the bit on Hangouts =/ Altho I dig the improvements to Maps.
So like I said earlier, for those that know of and care about fragmentation, they now have yet another option to avoid it, no?
It's no longer just the Nexus as their way around fragmetnation. It's now also the S4.
And in the future, it could be the Nexus, the S5, the HTC One 2014, etc.
Isn't this very good for fragmentation? I guess maybe only for the end user?
Except Samsung.....the one thing they should copy MORE lol.....
In all seriousness though, maps look cool.
I wonder if 4.3 is just the name for all these new APIs and enhancements to different apps and services (hangouts, maps, Google Now, Play games etc...).
No, it's not good for fragmentation. It might be good for those who buy that specific device, but it makes the situation worse for everybody else. Just adding yet another phone into the mix.
They need to take the updating responsibility out of manufacturers hands and do it themselves if they want to stop fragmentation, and skins should be optional and installable by the user, not included by default, as a skin being present prevents an upgrade to the latest Android version until the manufacturer updates said skin.
This is NOT a solution for fragmentation in any way, shape or form.
The solution for fragmentation is to get a larger percentage of users onto the same version of Android.
Fragmentation will become less of a problem as the percentage of users on JB increases....
No it isn't. Maps, Hangouts, Google Now, and Play Games are all separate from the OS itself. They are apps individually updated autonomously from the OS itself.
Huh interesting - so whats going on with 4.3.....one story says it won't be announced, the other says it will.
I'd be shocked if most of those services don't reach as far as the GB community, it would be mind boggling for Google to cut their reach by 90%.
Well, you're wrong.
The fewer people who aren't on the most recent version (which the Google version will get) means more people on a common API level. The more Nexus devices, the better. As they're expanding the program, it will shrink fragmentation more and more.
I thought this is how it goes too. Which is why I think this is good news for Android fragmentation.
Again, the S4 already exists. It's just now existing with stock Android allowing more people to be up to date with Android.
I don't think you have a full understanding of what fragmentation is. A GS4 that is treated like a Nexus device, actually is the antithesis of fragmentation, as it is a device that would be updated in the same manner as a Nexus device. It does nothing to cause more problems for anyone else at all. You're thinking of it in terms of it being another physical device, but it's to be treated as just another Nexus. In other words, it won't need anything special for it, as it will be like a Nexus and thus will stay up to date as long as it is physically capable.
Also, Google cannot take responsibility for updating manufacturer's handsets. You are thinking in terms of other OS'. You have to realize and understand that the Android platform is unique in that each OEM has their own differentiation of it. In order for Google to update every phone, they would have to eliminate manufacturer customization, which would eliminate one of the main things that make Android unique. OEM's need time to place their customizations in Android and there is no way around that.
Well there hasn't been any story that has explicitly said there won't be an Android update announced today. The one someone referenced earlier in this thread was just a tempering of expectations, since leaks had them through seemingly through the roof. I can't really say either way though lol.
EDIT: NEVER MIND. BELOW IS UNTRUE.
HOLY FRACK ROUND TWO:
http://androidandme.com/2013/05/news/htc-employee-teases-stock-android-htc-one/
HTC employee teases Google Experience HTC One
In an HTC tweet: So you can pay $649 for a piece of plastic running stock or... You can wait
It's potentially already beginning...
Maybe this is the fruition of that rumor back in 2012 that there would be "five Nexus" devices from the main Android OEMs. Maybe this is the realization of that rumor.
:O
HOLY FRACK ROUND TWO:
http://androidandme.com/2013/05/news/htc-employee-teases-stock-android-htc-one/
HTC employee teases Google Experience HTC One
In an HTC tweet: So you can pay $649 for a piece of plastic running stock or... You can wait
It's potentially already beginning...
Maybe this is the fruition of that rumor back in 2012 that there would be "five Nexus" devices from the main Android OEMs. Maybe this is the realization of that rumor.
:O
95% of people who go into a Best Buy or similar to get an S4 have no clue what fragmentation is. You can go on a mountaintop and scream FRAGMENTATION, they seriously won't care.
The people that do care...well there's a phone for that now.
Is Larry going to tell us here in the next 8 minutes?
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HOLY FRACK ROUND TWO:
http://androidandme.com/2013/05/news/htc-employee-teases-stock-android-htc-one/
HTC employee teases Google Experience HTC One
In an HTC tweet: So you can pay $649 for a piece of plastic running stock or... You can wait
Wow.....curse me for buying the One already.....
EDIT: Debunked - update on that story: "Update: Jeff Gordon of HTC just sent us the following message, “HTC is not currently planning a ‘Nexus Edition’ of the HTC One.”
HOLY FRACK ROUND TWO:
http://androidandme.com/2013/05/news/htc-employee-teases-stock-android-htc-one/
HTC employee teases Google Experience HTC One
In an HTC tweet: So you can pay $649 for a piece of plastic running stock or... You can wait
Update: Jeff Gordon of HTC just sent us the following message, HTC is not currently planning a Nexus Edition of the HTC One.
=D
I'd think that HTC would be kicking their customers in the balls for those who went the developer's phone route.
HOLY FRACK ROUND TWO:
http://androidandme.com/2013/05/news/htc-employee-teases-stock-android-htc-one/
HTC employee teases Google Experience HTC One
In an HTC tweet: So you can pay $649 for a piece of plastic running stock or... You can wait
look at the update
not happening