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I just went to an ATT store near me. With my Nexus 4 in hand to check out the HTC One and Galaxy S4.
The One is a beautiful device, but damn I still hate Sense. Going through apps, Sense still has this old Gingerbread theme somewhat still. Major turn off. The One running stock Android could be an amazing phone, but with Sense 5, no thanks, no way.
The Galaxy S4, nice thin device, great screen, but again, Touchwiz sucks. It felt a little laggy, and the Touchwiz look and style is a hodgepodge of different ***** mixed together, very ugly. Now, an S4 running stock Android, that could be pretty cool I'll admit. But enough for me to leave my Nexus 4 ? No. I'd just wait the 4 months for the Nexus-Five. But if you are on an old phone, looking for a new phone this summer, the S4-Nexus is not a bad choice, just pricey, but a Nexus S4 would be pretty darn cool.
I guess my point is, these high end new phones running Sense and Touchwiz, seem outdated and ugly, but shouldn't be if running the clean, smooth pure Android OS instead. Sense seems pointless today, vs. Jellybean 4.2. the same with Touchwiz. These UI's are not needed anymore.
Again, the HTC One running pure Android would be the most amazing best smartphone available. But Sense just ruins the whole thing for me.
Oh well, just proves, Nexus devices rock. Its all about the OS software today, not hardware as much, all new phones have pretty sweet hardware now.
The One is a beautiful device, but damn I still hate Sense. Going through apps, Sense still has this old Gingerbread theme somewhat still. Major turn off. The One running stock Android could be an amazing phone, but with Sense 5, no thanks, no way.
The Galaxy S4, nice thin device, great screen, but again, Touchwiz sucks. It felt a little laggy, and the Touchwiz look and style is a hodgepodge of different ***** mixed together, very ugly. Now, an S4 running stock Android, that could be pretty cool I'll admit. But enough for me to leave my Nexus 4 ? No. I'd just wait the 4 months for the Nexus-Five. But if you are on an old phone, looking for a new phone this summer, the S4-Nexus is not a bad choice, just pricey, but a Nexus S4 would be pretty darn cool.
I guess my point is, these high end new phones running Sense and Touchwiz, seem outdated and ugly, but shouldn't be if running the clean, smooth pure Android OS instead. Sense seems pointless today, vs. Jellybean 4.2. the same with Touchwiz. These UI's are not needed anymore.
Again, the HTC One running pure Android would be the most amazing best smartphone available. But Sense just ruins the whole thing for me.
Oh well, just proves, Nexus devices rock. Its all about the OS software today, not hardware as much, all new phones have pretty sweet hardware now.
My biggest beef with it is that if you want to message someone who isn't heavily invested in the Google ecosystem, it might not be so seamless. It isn't as simple, yet, as just a phone number. Using it on my Nexus 4 seems like I still need a buddy list. Like to message someone, because there is no SMS support, you still need their email address. And it is still a separate app from the default android messaging app, which is SMS and MMS.
Handouts has some serious potential. But it needs SMS support and it needs to be the only messaging app someone needs. But it just isn't there yet.
I understand now. Apparently we will see SMS support. Being that there isn't one, its only logical that a person must use google +. Heavily invested? I don't know. Download the hangouts app and login. You'll get any messages sent to you. You need not do a single additional thing with google +. I sure dont. I agree that SMS is a necessary feature and I hope it compares to iMessage.
You are right. It almost seems like a beta app to me. It has a ton of potential, and could be great. Imessage is great if you are on iOS, but we really need a messaging app that is cross platform that groups all our contacts together.
The SMS integration that has been officially stated is coming. Assuming its like iMessage, that would be fantastic. iMessage came after what's app and yet "everybody" uses that too. The difference with this is, it will potentially take over the messaging app on android completely eventually AND still work cross platform, unlike any of the other competition. If you are asking about a reason to use it over something else RIGHT NOW, I agree with you. But I'm talking about tomorrow, as we have already been given a hint at what's coming.
WhatsApp already uses your phone number and contact list so I see no extra benefit here.
That's fine that you see no extra benefit. We already established this (I thought) some posts back. I see intrinsic value in using a google service with a google phone which may eventually (if they are smart) completely replace the stock messaging app in future launches of the OS much like iMessage is seamlessly built in to iOS. A well rounded stock feature I'd always nicer than a third part app, all else equal, in my book. I would argue that plenty of others feel the same way, else iMessage wouldn't be as popular as it is.
nuff said, skype is also good. Imessage and facetime only for the miss.
The rumor lives on for a Google Edition (or "Senseless") HTC One: http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-android-4-2-2-update-senseless-212178/
Seriously, if Google can pull off a "Google Edition" of every (or even a few) annual flagships from the major players, that'd be nuts. Nuts, I tells ya.
I honestly don't see why it couldn't happen.
Seriously, if Google can pull off a "Google Edition" of every (or even a few) annual flagships from the major players, that'd be nuts. Nuts, I tells ya.
I honestly don't see why it couldn't happen.
I would not get the S4 Google edition but a HTC One Senseless edition would be perfect for me. The HTC One is the best looking phone on the market, has a brilliant screen, speakers and fast CPU, add Vanilla Android and you have a winner.
Agreed, would love offering a stock vanilla version in addition to manufacturers skinned devices to become the norm. Fingers crossed that Samsung sees enough demand for their Google S4 to warrant doing the same with future offerings and causes other manufacturers to take notice.
I believe I said you won. Just because you don't want to admit that Google isn't as big as people on this site make it out to be. I haven't said anything about disliking android. I think it shouldn't be #1 or #2 in the market place but that's my beef. I hate how people react when they get the Google ain't "innovative" thing. Fact, it's hard to be at this point. But when you have people come here and say that "Android did it first" is just stupid. You didn't say it, I know, but this IO was a great case of Google not being what Androd fans pan it out to be. Messenger sucks. Live with it. If you can't see that SMS integration being needed to be relevant, that's your problem. Yea Google said its coming soon. No timetable, no mention at IO, don't hold your breathe.
I wrote on a board that says ult for iOS because it had a post about the show. I was watching it so what the heck. Right? I don't post my "love for Apple", since its more of admiration. I will also get people from this board going over there...
Finally. Of course I don't use Android for more than developing. I'm not gonna deny it. In my opinion it still has work and it stems from its rendering issues prolly cause of Java. I never customized my Droid Incredible since it was slow to beggin with and it lasted me 1 hour usage (no joke). Do customizing isnt a factor for me. The only thing i envy off Android is the notification center. It is sexy. So why am I posting about an event that you yourself said was developer centric if I'm a Dev? Oh wait, that answers the question.
I don't care about if the phrase is overused. That's the way I see it. If you don't have a Internet your phone automatically sends SMS. No user input. It works.
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Anyone know what the video and pic file type they where talking about using less bandwidth.
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Ok I get you. This site is for anyone, but making comments like the new hangouts messaging is a poor man imessage or it sucks will not making you to many friends. I realize you like Apple and that is fine I do to.
Saying imessage or the iPhone just works is overused, but also it only applies to iPhone users. The iPhone does not just work for me. Imessage does not work for me either. Also when I was using my iPhone 5 there were times when imessage did not work. I get the statement, but I think you and many other people use it wrong. It is more of saying the ease of use not that is always works and android does not. I could say my nexus 4 just works because I don't have issues with it not working.
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Does anyone know how to change the order of song that play in when you are using the All access radio?
the new google maps and google+ are simply awesome. but i was expecting a new android version, feeling disappointed that google didnt introduce it.
I meant we have peace. Haha
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Technically the new updates to APIs could've been under a new version name for android. They just chose not to do it that way to decrease fragmentation I am assuming.
Either way with TW or stock Android, ill be running Nova or Apex anyways so it doesnt matter to me what it looks like. I dont mind the TW dialer and contacts. However, with that great camera and screen, it is a big upgrade over the Nexus 4. I really have no interest in the HTC One.
Im kinda confused as to a Nexus 5 coming. Ive seen the GS4 called the Samsung Galaxy S4 Nexus and it seems Android 5.0 isnt coming anytime soon so maybe the GS4 IS the next Nexus?
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A nexus 5 is coming b.c not everyone can afford a $650 phone. It Will still be a budget phone at $350, but not the specs of the Google S4. I google s4 will have nowhere near the demand of the nexus because the price.
How much you wanna bet that the Google gs4 blows the living crap out of the nexus 4 sales? What did lg sell so far?like 500k phones? Google will sell a million phones in the first hour they go on sale
Not a chance. The S4 is immensely popular but I would guess a HUGE majority of the sales are at a subsidized price. Tech geeks are drooling over the Google edition S4 and that's it, a very small niche. Regular consumers likely have no clue as to the difference between stock Android and TouchWiz skinned Android (show them the two side by side and more will probably choose TouchWiz) and will in no way flock to pay $650 vs. the $99 and $199 that can pay via carrier subsidies.
There are between 1m-2m Nexus 4's in the wild. It was available at various retail outlets, and not really marketed. The Google Edition GS4 will ONLY be available on the Google Play store with probably no additional marketing. If people weren't already buying the GS4, I don't see that many people moving from a Nexus 4 to GS4.