Google I/O

[jrswizzle]

The galaxy nexus came out late 2011 for Verizon and early 2012 for the rest of the carriers and it came out after the galaxy s2 that was the best selling android device until the gs3 came out.

Right, but the GS2 sold what, like 30 million units after a year +? (its up to 40 million now nearly two years later)......

Whereas the GS3 actually competed with the iPhone in terms of sales and has hit the 100 million mark.

BIG difference there....and could easily contribute to Samsung hubris.

Plus how close were they to releasing Tizen in 2011?

Sorry, just don't see it happening.

 

[skratch77]

Right, but the GS2 sold what, like 30 million units after a year +? (its up to 40 million now nearly two years later)......

Whereas the GS3 actually competed with the iPhone in terms of sales and has hit the 100 million mark.

BIG difference there....and could easily contribute to Samsung hubris.

Plus how close were they to releasing Tizen in 2011?

Sorry, just don't see it happening.

I've been on android since the g1 and the gs2 was not sold on Verizon and it took forever to come to the states and it was sold as different names on different carriers and did not get the same name across the board. Everyone on Verizon wanted a gs2 so bad but did not want to leave and lose there unlimited data so we waited for the galaxy nexus and it was an exclusive phone just for Verizon for like the first 6 months.

I don't understand your point at all as the gs2 blew the doors off of any other android and Samsung made a pure bread android phone right after it.

From a quick Google search the galaxy s and s2 broke 50 million last June of 2012

You bring up tizen and have no clue why Samsung started making it.it was because apple suing them and they needed a backup to android.I wouldn't be suprissed one bit if Google and Samsung did this on purpose because apple is now suing Samsung for the gs4 to be added in the court case and now Google wants to join with there 17000 patents to dry **** apple in court and are putting pure bread android on the gs4 on purpose

 

[bmac4]

Unfortunately, if that is what you are hoping for, you will certainly be disappointed. That's the problem with leaks, they build up an anticipation and expectation, and if it is not met, leads to people being underwhelmed and disappointed.

You don't think we will see Google babel?

 

[jrswizzle]

I've been on android since the g1 and the gs2 was not sold on Verizon and it took forever to come to the states and it was sold as different names on different carriers and did not get the same name across the board. Everyone on Verizon wanted a gs2 so bad but did not want to leave and lose there unlimited data so we waited for the galaxy nexus and it was an exclusive phone just for Verizon for like the first 6 months.

I don't understand your point at all as the gs2 blew the doors off of any other android and Samsung made a pure bread android phone right after it.

From a quick Google search the galaxy s and s2 broke 50 million last June of 2012

Combined, after multiple years on the market.

I'm saying Samsung likely (even with their spot as top Android OEM) wasn't in the position of strength they are now.

With the HUGE popularity of the GS3, they've become rockstars. The MAIN competition to Apple (as far as one-to-one phone sales go). The ONLY Android OEM that's been able to go toe-to-toe with Apple as far as one-to-one sales.....

My point is simply Samsung now likely feels like they are in the driver's seat. Sure a popular GS2 gave them confidence. But the explosion of popularity after the GS3 has brought that to a new level.

Let me ask you this.....with Samsung being as popular as they are, and Google likely wanting the Nexus program to flourish, if Samsung was so interested in releasing something like a Vanilla Android Galaxy S4, why has Google used LG? Why not let Samsung continue to make Nexus phones?

Do you not think a part of it has to do with Samsung saying "Nah we're worth more than that" and asking for more/wanting more control of that relationship? Don't you think that likely happened in the last year, year and a half?

If you think Samsung is the same company now as they were when the GS or GS2 came out, you're kidding yourself.

EDIT: From a quick google search - the GS2 wasn't even the top selling SAMSUNG phone in 2011, let alone Android. Samsung was the top OVERALL Android OEM (behind Nokia overall), but the GS2 only sold a little over 10 million in 2011, behind the HTC Desire (13 million) and Galaxy Y (15 million).

2012 and the GS3 was when Samsung erupted. 55 million GS3's in 2012 (compared with 52.3million iPhone 5's - granted it was out much later, but nevertheless, Samsung had never come close to Apple like this).

 

[Shadow Puppy]

You don't think we will see Google babel?

Yeah, you will. It just won't be exactly what you are hoping for. At least not yet anyway. Leaks have caused people to have expectations that don't align with what is actually being done, and thus will lead to disappointment that wouldn't necessarily have occurred had it not been for the increased anticipation.

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Let me ask you this.....with Samsung being as popular as they are, and Google likely wanting the Nexus program to flourish, if Samsung was so interested in releasing something like a Vanilla Android Galaxy S4, why has Google used LG? Why not let Samsung continue to make Nexus phones?

Do you not think a part of it has to do with Samsung saying "Nah we're worth more than that" and asking for more/wanting more control of that relationship? Don't you think that likely happened in the last year, year and a half?

Google doesn't want the Nexus program to become something synonymous with only one manufacturer. OEM's would love to be pegged as the maker of the next Nexus because it affords them the opportunity to have first crack at the next version of Android. To answer your question, Google used LG because that's who they decided on, simple as that. It's not nearly as deep as you are thinking.

 

[bmac4]

Yeah, you will. It just won't be exactly what you are hoping for. At least not yet anyway. Leaks have caused people to have expectations that don't align with what is actually being done, and thus will lead to disappointment that wouldn't necessarily have occurred had it not been for the increased anticipation.

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Google doesn't want the Nexus program to become something synonymous with only one manufacturer. OEM's would love to be pegged as the maker of the next Nexus because it affords them the opportunity to have first crack at the next version of Android. To answer your question, Google used LG because that's who they decided on, simple as that. It's not nearly as deep as you are thinking.

My expectations I do feel are too high. I am simply saying I would like to see babel come along and bring all the messaging apps together. What would be the purpose of making babel if they did not do this?

 

[Shadow Puppy]

My expectations I do feel are too high. I am simply saying I would like to see babel come along and bring all the messaging apps together. What would be the purpose of making babel if they did not do this?

See that's just my point though. If you did not know it even existed, you wouldn't have those expectations or wants. Instead, a new app would have launched that changed the way instant messaging worked on Android. But because of all this leaked stuff talking about "unifying messaging" and such, you immediately start to think of what you'd like to see it unify. Of course, this means that when it launches, you will be set up for disappointment, where you wouldn't have if you had no expectation at all.

 

[bmac4]

See that's just my point though. If you did not know it even existed, you wouldn't have those expectations or wants. Instead, a new app would have launched that changed the way instant messaging worked on Android. But because of all this leaked stuff talking about "unifying messaging" and such, you immediately start to think of what you'd like to see it unify. Of course, this means that when it launches, you will be set up for disappointment, where you wouldn't have if you had no expectation at all.

Ok sure. I am sure there will be a new messaging app. Don't have a clue how it will work, but I am sure it will be good.

 

[jrswizzle]

Google doesn't want the Nexus program to become something synonymous with only one manufacturer. OEM's would love to be pegged as the maker of the next Nexus because it affords them the opportunity to have first crack at the next version of Android. To answer your question, Google used LG because that's who they decided on, simple as that. It's not nearly as deep as you are thinking.

I don't think Samsung much cares at this point....it seems they're to the point where Google/Android needs them more than they need Google/Android (even though I don't necessarily think that's true from what I've seen of Samsung's software....)

But at any rate, so what would the point of a vanilla android GS4 be?

 

[Shadow Puppy]

Ok sure. I am sure there will be a new messaging app. Don't have a clue how it will work, but I am sure it will be good.

If you're someone that would use it, you will definitely like it.

 

[jimbo1mcm]

I'll take anything!!

It would be fantastic to have any or all of the following today:

1. Nexus 4 update with 32 GB and LTE on all carriers

2. HTC Droid whatever on Verizon as a derivative of the HTC One

3. Samsung Galaxy S4 "Google Edition"

I am very skeptical of any of these because there have just been no real leaks. Security just cannot be that tight. We have sources!!

 

[jrswizzle]

Where will you guys be keeping track of I/O? This will be my first time watching what's going on in the Android world

Got mashable's liveblog pulled up on my One. Any better news outlets/liveblogs out there?

 

[Shadow Puppy]

Where will you guys be keeping track of I/O? This will be my first time watching what's going on in the Android world

Got mashable's liveblog pulled up on my One. Any better news outlets/liveblogs out there?

You can watch it live.
https://developers.google.com/events/io/

You can also watch it on a mobile device if you download the Google I/O app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...osched&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd

 

[jrswizzle]

You can watch it live.
https://developers.google.com/events/io/

Even better

Gracias!

 

[ChazUK]

Tuning in now.

IO and WWDC. My 2 favourite events in the tech calendar.

 

[tjl3]

Combined, after multiple years on the market.

I'm saying Samsung likely (even with their spot as top Android OEM) wasn't in the position of strength they are now.

With the HUGE popularity of the GS3, they've become rockstars. The MAIN competition to Apple (as far as one-to-one phone sales go). The ONLY Android OEM that's been able to go toe-to-toe with Apple as far as one-to-one sales.....

My point is simply Samsung now likely feels like they are in the driver's seat. Sure a popular GS2 gave them confidence. But the explosion of popularity after the GS3 has brought that to a new level.

Let me ask you this.....with Samsung being as popular as they are, and Google likely wanting the Nexus program to flourish, if Samsung was so interested in releasing something like a Vanilla Android Galaxy S4, why has Google used LG? Why not let Samsung continue to make Nexus phones?

Do you not think a part of it has to do with Samsung saying "Nah we're worth more than that" and asking for more/wanting more control of that relationship? Don't you think that likely happened in the last year, year and a half?

If you think Samsung is the same company now as they were when the GS or GS2 came out, you're kidding yourself.

EDIT: From a quick google search - the GS2 wasn't even the top selling SAMSUNG phone in 2011, let alone Android. Samsung was the top OVERALL Android OEM (behind Nokia overall), but the GS2 only sold a little over 10 million in 2011, behind the HTC Desire (13 million) and Galaxy Y (15 million).

2012 and the GS3 was when Samsung erupted. 55 million GS3's in 2012 (compared with 52.3million iPhone 5's - granted it was out much later, but nevertheless, Samsung had never come close to Apple like this).

Hmmm, weird about the statistics. I did a Google search (albeit a quick one) to pull up that the GS3 only hit 50m on March 14, 2013, and the GS2 only sold 20m through January. Not to understate that the line has amassed well over 100m total!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324077704578358283252725470.html

That aside, I fully agree with you that the most likely explanation of why Samsung does not collaborate on the Nexus is in part due to cost. However, I'd also argue that it is in Google's directive not to show favortism to Samsung, and to allow the 'small fish' to grab a piece of the pie.

 

[Ddyracer]

I'm excited but keeping my expectations low that way i won't be disappointed. Not like i'm getting anything soon anyway.

 

[jrswizzle]

Hmmm, weird about the statistics. I did a Google search (albeit a quick one) to pull up that the GS3 only hit 50m on March 14, 2013, and the GS2 only sold 20m through January. Not to understate that the line has amassed well over 100m total!

Given none of these companies releases actual sales data, its no wonder we come up with different numbers.

Suffice to say, the GS3 was Samsung's HUGE release and propelled them into Apple-like status....

Though sales-wise, they still have some work to do. The iPhone 5 sold 52.3 million units in far less time and the iPhone 4S ALONE has sold more than 120 million units.....as much as the entire Galaxy S line combined.

That aside, I fully agree with you that the most likely explanation of why Samsung does not collaborate on the Nexus is in part due to cost. However, I'd also argue that it is in Google's directive not to show favortism to Samsung, and to allow the 'small fish' to grab a piece of the pie.

Agreed.

 

[tjl3]

Given none of these companies releases actual sales data, its no wonder we come up with different numbers.

Suffice to say, the GS3 was Samsung's HUGE release and propelled them into Apple-like status (and perhaps beyond....)



Agreed.

Agree, one last note on I/O, apparently 4.3 was confirmed...

 

[Shadow Puppy]

Even better

Gracias!

lol I'm going to take this time to plug the multitasking of Android

I have my phone streaming the live broadcast wirelessly to my Google TV, and have it displaying on my television. While that's going, I am still on a phone call, and am messaging various people on Babel. Gotta love true multitasking.

 

[atticus27]

Here's a youtube livestream link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9pmPa_KxsAM

 

[jrswizzle]

Here's a youtube livestream link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9pmPa_KxsAM

I keep losing audio about 5 seconds into watching....

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lol I'm going to take this time to plug the multitasking of Android

I have my phone streaming the live broadcast wirelessly to my Google TV, and have it displaying on my television. While that's going, I am still on a phone call, and am messaging various people on Babel. Gotta love true multitasking.

You know this is possible on an iPhone with AirPlay multitasking too right? lol....or better yet, just go to the youtube live stream directly from the youtube app on the AppleTV or GoogleTV

 

[daveathall]

What watch do you think he is wearing?

 

[jrswizzle]

Can we all agree that this style (and Apple's) of keynote addresses are INFINITELY better than the garbage Samsung threw out there for the GS4 release?

Cool graphics for the activations announcement.

 

[Shadow Puppy]

You know this is possible on an iPhone with AirPlay multitasking too right? lol....or better yet, just go to the youtube live stream directly from the youtube app on the AppleTV or GoogleTV

Yeah I know I could run it straight from the Google TV, I just prefer to control everything from my phone or tablet, because if I want to leave the room, I can just tap an icon and it continues to stream in my hand. Also, I should have been clearer, I'm using the video chatting feature of the app along with the messaging.