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sentinelsx

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I just ask you in the other thread what you thought about the S4 stock android edition. I guess this answers my question.

Haha yeah sorry I wasn't reading that.

But yeah, all of a sudden this is the phone i feel like has been made for my needs/wants.

Good camera.

LTe, storage are bonuses that I love.

And stock android.

I can see myself using this for a LONG time!!'
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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Well I think because it will stock android all touchwiz stuff is gone. It will be just like the nexus phones.

That is my question...is that a touchwiz feature or a samsung feature? Where does touchwiz end and just samsung tweaks begin.
 

bmac4

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Feb 14, 2013
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I'll go ahead and be honest....

The device junkie in me wants to sell my N4 and buy one of these....

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How many people?

It won't boost marketshare numbers.....

I don't know but this could be the launch of all kinds of android phones that do this. That could be huge.
 

sentinelsx

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Fixed.

Average consumers aren't that fussed. They want value per dollar. Touchwiz, Sense or Stock is virtually irrelevant.

I would change geeks to "informed customers".

I want something that is not bloated and gives the best performance. All my research indicates I want a stock android phone.

I don't care for air crap.
 

mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
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Haha yeah sorry I wasn't reading that.

But yeah, all of a sudden this is the phone i feel like has been made for my needs/wants.

Good camera.

LTe, storage are bonuses that I love.

And stock android.

I can see myself using this for a LONG time!!'

another good point....it will last a long time. Even the n4 can be used for the next few years despite some limitations.
 

Shadow Puppy

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May 10, 2013
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Ok sure. I am sure there will be a new messaging app. Don't have a clue how it will work, but I am sure it will be good.

Now I can mention more. It replaces Google Talk completely on the phones. It doesn't included SMS as of today, but that doesn't mean it won't happen...

It's a very good app, and works very well. It's quite intuitive, and honestly I prefer using it over any other messaging app.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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I don't know but this could be the launch of all kinds of android phones that do this. That could be huge.

So why do OEMs even add their skins?

I'm sorry but all this does is fragment Android further - especially if its expanded. I doubt you'll see a ton of NEW users because of this, just cannibalization of the skinned Androids.
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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Now I can mention more. It replaces Google Talk completely on the phones. It doesn't included SMS as of today, but that doesn't mean it won't happen...

It's a very good app, and works very well. It's quite intuitive, and honestly I prefer using it over any other messaging app.

My work uses google talk, so I just use it on my phone. Would I just put this on my phone and it works the same way with the desktop users still?
 

apollo1444

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Jul 22, 2011
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google+ is on paper greater and greater everyday but theres just no motivation to use it, nobody lurks there everyone is still on facebook except for nerds that want to feel cool

but lets get serious hot chicks have and will continue to use facebook

I think one timed i followed the playstation G+ site and they took weeks to update info on it it was ridiculous it's unsusable
 
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Shadow Puppy

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My work uses google talk, so I just use it on my phone. Would I just put this on my phone and it works the same way with the desktop users still?

Yes it does. The only issue right now is, if you have rooms set up on Talk/Gchat, they don't currently work on Hangouts. If you aren't using any rooms, then things will work fine.
 

Michael Goff

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If that's referring to Google+ hangouts, it's a lame attempt because noone uses Google+ :p

No, there's an app that's coming out that brings together a lot of Google's messaging services. It was supposedly going to be called Babel, but meh.
 

Michael Goff

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Cool, sounds good. About time! Needs to come installed by default with later versions of Android to be any good though.

They're doing that with a lot of devices and Chrome, right?

I can see this being another thing like that.
 

Shadow Puppy

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May 10, 2013
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perfect. We don't use rooms just all add each other :)

If that's how you use it, you will absolutely love Hangouts then. The way you start multi-person conversations is so easy and intuitive. The good thing about it is, it doesn't matter if they use Talk, G+, or whatever. When they update their Talk app, it will be replaced by Hangouts and they will be logged in.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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So why do OEMs even add their skins?

I'm sorry but all this does is fragment Android further - especially if its expanded. I doubt you'll see a ton of NEW users because of this, just cannibalization of the skinned Androids.


What?

So Google is able to make a deal with one of the (if not, the) flagship Android phone maker to give them the hardware while allowing Google to control the software and that's fragmenting the line even more?

What in the world?

People have the choice. If you're a tech-savvy enough person to know about and care about fragmentation, you now have the choice to pick an OEM flagship phone with stock Android software and immediate updates from Google (any of this sound familiar?) where apps can be brought up to speed with the latest Android at any given time. And this fragments the line more?

For those who don't know about fragmentation (or don't care) and want a carrier branded, bloated, and/or TouchWiz software (again, nothing wrong with this. Some people just don't care or know to care) they can continue walking into a carrier store to pick up the phone.

Freedom of choice. But somehow, this is worse.

Then imagine if this really takes off an we get OEMs creating "Google Versions" of their annual flagships, all sold by and directly updated by Google. This could be a massive answer to fragmentation!

And a massive answer to those clamoring about lack of immediate updates on Android.

EDIT:
Not to mention, you people do realize, stock Android existed before today's announcement, right? It'll just be offered on one more device.
 
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