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Tig Bitties

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More reviews I read, the more I think this is a pass. And I'm a huge Nexus / Pixel nerd.

All reviewers saying the 90hz display is it's biggest deal, they say everything else is just standard 2019 smartphone stuff, nothing great.

-Battery size seems too small
-6GB RAM is good, but for this price should be 8GB
-Display isn't bright enough outdoors like Galaxy 10 line and iPhone 11
-No ultra wide camera
-Design with huge forhead bezel, and side and bottom bezels not symmetrical looks cheap
-Most reviewers saying the sonar is a gimmick, most users will forget it's there. Plus it's not reliable, doesn't work all the time as advertised.

When phones like the OnePlus 7 Pro are out for $649, compared to the Pixel 4 XL for $900+, it's hard to pick the Pixel.

And if battery life and ultra wide camera are your thing, the iPhone 11 Pro is out.
 

Awesomesince86

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Many of the tech reviewers are echoing the same things were saying...Google made some really odd decisions with this phone.

Google needs to decide what they want the Pixel line to be. If they want to be conservative with specs then that’s fine. But go the Nexus route and make the devices a step below flagship costs and aim for the $500-$700 range. Or if they decide they want to compete with the $1000 flagships then make sure the specs and features are there to compete with those phones. But enough of this flagship pricing while cutting corners left and right.

I’m officially out on the Pixel this year unless something big changes. Fast updates and stock android aren’t enough anymore.
 

tbayrgs

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Love the design and look of them. But they suck to actually use.

Had one on my 2 XL, and also my 3 XL, thru make the phones way harder to hold, super slippery, and thick and harder to grab.

Agreed. I had one for my 3XL...look really nice but actually added more bulk than I expected and like others, I found it quite slippery.
 

5105973

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This just one upped Galaxy Note 10's pen to text transcription and indexing. It makes the pen input part unnecessary.

They each fill a niche. Ideally this feature could be made available on other Android phones, so my Note could have both.
 

5105973

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I like this guys videos, this really shows the phones in great detail, but wow the forehead top bezel really looks large, and makes the Pixel 4 look dated.

Isn't the rumor for the 2020 iPhone's, that are due to release in September, to get rid of the notch, and have all the sensors buried under the glass, and a little bit in the thin tiny bezel. That the iPhone 12 will have a thin equal sized bezel on all 4 sides, being perfectly symmetrical and like all display, zero notches, no punch holes, no tear drop, etc...

Saying that, I feel the Pixel 4 will not age well.
I don’t know how much of the original HTC design and engineering staff still remains. My HTC 10 was a perplexing mix of superlatives and choppy work. In the tear downs it was completely lacking evidence of thoughtful efficient design and custom engineering that characterized Apple for years and Samsung’s best efforts of the last few years. Yet in actual use there was much charm to it.

I see that same odd mix of superlatives and amateurish effort in the Pixels. The same incredible charm in use mixed with odd dated design choices and off-the-shelf design language.

Very quirky.
 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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Pixel 4 hands-on: I almost wish I didn’t like it this much


“I’ll be honest: I wasn’t expecting to like the Pixel 4 all that much. So much of it had leaked that there were few surprises left, and on paper, the hardware lags behind some of its immediate competition. Even significantly cheaper phones like the OnePlus 7T have a clear advantage when it comes to specs per dollar.

And yet, I’m pretty sure the Pixel 4 will end up being my daily driver.”

 

AustinIllini

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Oct 20, 2011
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Man. So disappointing that outdoor brightness is still an issue.

Too many corners cut to justify the cost.
I keep thinking this. This is a $650 phone at most.

Radar is neat (although MKBHD seems to think it doesn't work), but how does that help me when I'm using my phone outside? Google cuts such basic corners every year. Disappointing.
 

pika2000

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I keep thinking this. This is a $650 phone at most.

Radar is neat (although MKBHD seems to think it doesn't work), but how does that help me when I'm using my phone outside? Google cuts such basic corners every year. Disappointing.
Radar seems to be like those retina scan of Samsung’s, just a spec list with no real common uses. I mean no developers would be bothered with Pixel only features.
 
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AustinIllini

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Radar seems to be like those retina scan of Samsung’s, just a spec list with no real common uses. I mean no developers would be bothered with Pixel only features.
I think the practical use they describe is great. Screen is off until you approach the device and the AOD turns on. It also speeds up their face unlock feature which is awesome. All the other gestures seem silly, though. I can use my fingers to interact with the piece of glass on the phone. I don't need to wave my hands around.
 

pika2000

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I think the practical use they describe is great. Screen is off until you approach the device and the AOD turns on. It also speeds up their face unlock feature which is awesome. All the other gestures seem silly, though. I can use my fingers to interact with the piece of glass on the phone. I don't need to wave my hands around.
Sure, but then that’s about it. No 3rd party developers would be bothered with it unless the likes of Samsung, Huawei, and Xiaomi starts putting the same tech on their phones.
 

kkh786

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Nov 25, 2013
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Just saw MKBHD's video and I have to admit I am underwhelmed. Even he was struggling being a Pixel fanboy!

I did not see anything that wowed me to drop my Note10, even the iphone 11 series were more intriguing.

Side note, I don't think I can ever go back to bezels like those either! Eek!
 
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JPNFRK7

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Sep 27, 2012
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I just ended up cancelling my order. After seeing the mediocre "first look" reviews on youtube today after the event, Im just not justifying that $1100 for 128GB and Preferred Care on a regular 4. Might even go look at a Samsung S10 tomorrow and see if that is more my speed. I have been holding out for this phone but the wow factor just isnt there.
 
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michael9891

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Tom the Tech Chap said that the astrophotography mode will be coming to older Pixels. I thought it might, being software related.

It won't hurt or cost anything to try the 4 XL for a week, but I'm really tempted by the Note 10+. 10% off ends tomorrow though! And maybe checking out a 4a XL if they do one. Or be more sensible for once and just keep my 3a XL with it's amazing battery life.

Cancelled the orange at least, just kept the white.
 

pika2000

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I just ended up cancelling my order. After seeing the mediocre "first look" reviews on youtube today after the event, Im just not justifying that $1100 for 128GB and Preferred Care on a regular 4. Might even go look at a Samsung S10 tomorrow and see if that is more my speed. I have been holding out for this phone but the wow factor just isnt there.
Curious which first look review that are mediocre. Mkbhd is quite honest, but rest are seemingly trying to spin the Pixel 4 as something that is great and positive. Some channels claimed the Pixel 4 has SD855+ (which is false). Another talk how great the air gesture is (Mkbhd is more honest here). There are channels praising the design and matte back, ignoring the glossy black and bezels. And of course the screen. Many are praising how great the 90hz screen is, ignoring other phones like OnePlus and Razer that have used high refresh rate screens in the past. And when they’re talking about price, most only compare it to the $999 iPhone pro, ignoring the slew of other Android phones with better spec for less. It’s really hilarious the tech tubers are so easily influenced by free demo units with fancy packaging.
 
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Abazigal

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I just ended up cancelling my order. After seeing the mediocre "first look" reviews on youtube today after the event, Im just not justifying that $1100 for 128GB and Preferred Care on a regular 4. Might even go look at a Samsung S10 tomorrow and see if that is more my speed. I have been holding out for this phone but the wow factor just isnt there.

Knowing the trend, you might be able to pick one up at a discount later on should you end up changing your mind.
 
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Ralfi

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Enough with the dated forehead/chin (& therefore large form factor), Google. It just makes your phones less practical & more of an annoyance to handle.

More intrigued by the new Pixel Buds than the Pixel phone.
 

nfl46

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Oct 5, 2008
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Enough with the dated forehead/chin (& therefore large form factor), Google. It just makes your phones less practical & more of an annoyance to handle.

More intrigued by the new Pixel Buds than the Pixel phone.
I was shocked when they said they Buds would be available in the Spring. That’s a long time. Spring ends in June 2020 so Google could very well wait until the very last week.
 

LiE_

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My wife has a Pixel 2 XL and was holding out for the Pixel 4, but isn't impressed. Sees now looking at the iPhone 11, it'll be interesting to watch her decision process.
 
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