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I've listened to reviews from Verge, Rene Ritchie, and Engadget and none of them mentioned bad battery life. Verge said it was the same or maybe slightly worse but nothing major.
What? I just watched it. He said he was only able to get it for a minute on one street corner.
He said he was on mmwave for a lot of the time testing speeds.
I might have mixed up the videos I watched a few already will double back
Edit 16:39 around he says they were using 5G alot for testing.....in NYC
Yeah I think he means mmwave. UWB is really rare and they said they only used that for a little bit because its so hard to find and disconnects so easily.
That makes sense.. We both picked up something on it.. Haha
Since this pandemic I've not had chance to test in city...
So I wonder when we'll start seeing tests of this new "Verizon Nationwide 5G" that they keep talking about now?
"5G just got real..."
It supposedly reaches further and is available in more locations than the severely range-limited mmWave.
Seems like Verizon should have started with that... and then focused on sidewalks and stadiums...
Apple iPhone 12 Pro review: ahead of its time
The big thing about the Pro model this year is it’s shiny.
Bad Stuff
- Battery life not as good as last year
It felt like the battery on the iPhone 12 Pro died a lot faster than I expected. After around 2.5 hours of screen on time, I was at 18 percent. Of course, we were using 5G a lot for testing, and using the mmWave radio drains the battery faster, so it’s hard to say how representative this is.
My question, can 5G be toggled On/Off?
Good question.. We shall find out soon... Yeah I saw his take but seriously in the city on 5G possibly and one day he comes to the conclusion... I will wait... LolApple iPhone 12 Pro review: ahead of its time
The big thing about the Pro model this year is it’s shiny.www.theverge.com
Bad Stuff
Don’t expect the 12 Pro to be the battery champ the 11 was
- Battery life not as good as last year
It felt like the battery on the iPhone 12 Pro died a lot faster than I expected. After around 2.5 hours of screen on time, I was at 18 percent. Of course, we were using 5G a lot for testing, and using the mmWave radio drains the battery faster, so it’s hard to say how representative this is.
My question, can 5G be toggled On/Off?
I'd certainly be wanting more than 2.5 hours screen time from 82% battery.
I do see a fair bit more battery drain on my Pixel when I use 4G all day. Still good though.
I do see a fair bit more battery drain on my Pixel when I use 4G all day. Still good though.
Apple iPhone 12 Pro review: ahead of its time
The big thing about the Pro model this year is it’s shiny.
Bad Stuff
Don’t expect the 12 Pro to be the battery champ the 11 was
- Battery life not as good as last year
It felt like the battery on the iPhone 12 Pro died a lot faster than I expected. After around 2.5 hours of screen on time, I was at 18 percent. Of course, we were using 5G a lot for testing, and using the mmWave radio drains the battery faster, so it’s hard to say how representative this is.
My question, can 5G be toggled On/Off?
Pretty sure I saw that yes it could. Im guessing that battery number was only because he was try to find a UW band 5G singnal and was probably bouncing around between that and LTE or mmWave a lot causing the radios to drain battery fast. No way Apple releases a phone that bad on battery. They're too smart for that.
Honestly, the new iPhones look extremely gaudy, especially the mirrored finish on the Pros. The design just keeps getting uglier. The Pixel aesthetic is always on-point. (Or I just prefer Pixel’s design language.) The Pixel 5 just looks so much nicer in comparison to the new Pros.
Not to harp on the notch again, but man that notch in the iPhone 12 is just bad, and really looks outdated today in 2020. For Apple to use it a 4th year in a row, is just sad. They're a trillion dollar company, with some of the brightest engineers and designers in the tech industry working for them. Your telling me they couldn't find a way to at least reduce the notch, to a smaller size, or give the top of the phone a little straight bezel across the top to help hide the notch better. I'm sure Apple could have done that if they wanted, but that costs them money and time and resources, so that's a no.
Making the iPhone 12 line of phones, much thinner than last years iPhone 11's, thus having smaller batteries, why?
With COVID and mask wearing, this would have been best time, to incorporate the iPad Pro fingerprint scanner in the power button, that should have been added to the iPhone 12 lineup.
120HZ Pro Motion refresh rate, or 5G? Seems 5G is a huge battery hog, yes 120hz is too, but not as much, plus 5G is a ways off from truly being useful, whereas 120hz refresh is an immediate pleasure. Again they should have made rear the phone flush with the camera sensors sticking out the back, put some large batteries in.
Oh well, there's no perfect phone. I'm a big Nexus / Pixel fan, and trust me, Google has screwed those phones up so bad over the years, is not funny.
Making the iPhone 12 line of phones, much thinner than last years iPhone 11's, thus having smaller batteries, why?
With COVID and mask wearing, this would have been best time, to incorporate the iPad Pro fingerprint scanner in the power button, that should have been added to the iPhone 12 lineup.
120HZ Pro Motion refresh rate, or 5G? Seems 5G is a huge battery hog, yes 120hz is too, but not as much, plus 5G is a ways off from truly being useful, whereas 120hz refresh is an immediate pleasure. Again they should have made rear the phone flush with the camera sensors sticking out the back, put some large batteries in.
Oh well, there's no perfect phone. I'm a big Nexus / Pixel fan, and trust me, Google has screwed those phones up so bad over the years, is not funny.
Yep.
Apple is all-in on this FaceID thing. But rather than making a wide black glass bezel across the entire top of the phone... they gave us a little bit of active screen on either side of the notch for the clock and notification icons.
Other manufacturers simply have a single pinhole camera in the screen. No IR blasters... no depth scanners... etc.
So instead of 7 little holes in the iPhone... we get the notch.
MY wish... give me a bezel at the top of the iPhone to "remove" the notch... and put a matching bezel at the bottom for front-facing stereo speakers! Functional and symmetrical!
But then people would say "ewwww bezels... looks soooo old fashioned..."
Whaddaya gonna do...
Talking Pixel 5 with Android Central and Android Police
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I still don’t understand why comprehension of the need for the notch is so confounding for some. Secure Face Unlock has only been implemented on 2 sets of device—iPhones since the X and the Pixel 4. It requires a lot more headspace for all of those sensors. Apple went with the notch...theoretically the smallest space they could use to contain those front facing sensor while Google just used a large bezel across the top of the phone. You don’t think they’d reduce the notch right now if it was feasible? What’s the advantage to Apple of having a larger notch?
And the forehead bezel alternative? Google was near universally criticized for it last year. Most reviews of this year’s Pixel praise the uniform, minimal bezels that has replaced last years design. The obsession in the tech media (and amongst tech geeks) is the least amount of bezel as possible. If Apple went the Pixel 4 route, the criticism would be astounding. Keeping FaceID and using a pin hole up top just isn’t physically possible right now. The current world situation withstanding, I‘ll take FaceID over FP scanners almost everytime.
It absolutely would’ve been great to have the iPad Air fingerprint scanning power button but COVID didn’t wreck the world until March. These phone designs are likely ‘in the can’ far before that and it’s not as simple as just throwing it on the phone. The OS needs to be written to accommodate dual biometrics and the internal hardware design has to be reworked and fully retested. Hopefully we’ll see it next year but expecting it in these phones was a pipe dream.
5G vs. 120hz? Go ask any typical consumer about both and I’ll wager any amount of money you want that far more know about 5G thanks to the shameless carrier marketing. Is it useful now? Mostly no but it’s all people hear and now subsequently ask about. Apple had to include it this year else the general buying public would’ve questioned it, even if they have no clue how it works or what benefits it provides. And while it’s not that useful right now, most people will still likely be using these phones in 2-3 years when it will be more viable.
I’m not going to criticize battery performance until I get actual first hand usage. Yes, the amount of battery capacity is likely down a bit but my iPhone 11 Max has insane battery performance so if it drops a little bit, I won’t sweat it.
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Apple could easily get rid of the notch and add 120hz refresh. These are design choices they make. When it comes to 120hz, either they arent happy with the performance and/or battery hit, or just as likely they are withholding it so that they have it in their back pocket as one of the main features to tout in a future iPhone. Same with the notch. They could just have a forehead which would look cleaner, but they invented the notch and are committed to it as a design choice. And they wont drop FaceID because they are the current leaders in that biometric so its still something they can tout. Once they have a viable (probably underscreen) alternative, you'll see them release it and act like its the first of its kind.
I’d rather have the notch than the forehead ..and truly I enjoyed my Pixel 4 XL ..just not a problem on the notch and FaceID ..120 hz I’d love but from rumors didn’t come out how Apple wanted during testing ...We all have preferences I respect 
I’d rather have the notch than the forehead ..and truly I enjoyed my Pixel 4 XL ..just not a problem on the notch and FaceID ..120 hz I’d love but from rumors didn’t come out how Apple wanted during testing ...We all have preferences I respect
From what I read 120Hz was close and even had a setting in iOS 14, but Apple couldnt get enough LTPO panels at the quality they wanted due to Covid.
That kinda ties in with what I heard ...next year
here we go ...On the Pixel 5 front them speakers I’m hearing more and more complaints unfortunately..a strength for prior phones...I will eventually give one a go ...just waiting on the magic price in my head ..around $500 - $550
Here's the Sophie's Choice...
Do you wait for next year's iPhone with a 120Hz screen... but it doesn't have any ports? No Lightning? No nothing?
Here's the Sophie's Choice...
Do you wait for next year's iPhone with a 120Hz screen... but it doesn't have any ports? No Lightning? No nothing?
I’m as staunch an Apple supporter as you’ll find around this forum but a fully port-less iPhone will likely break me of my iPhone habit. This scenario is truly Apple solving a problem that doesn’t exist all for the sake of more accessories—more so than they’re already doing removing the power adapter.
Here's the Sophie's Choice...
Do you wait for next year's iPhone with a 120Hz screen... but it doesn't have any ports? No Lightning? No nothing?
I doubt they pull that **** next year, but it's definitely coming. The introduction of Magsafe is a slow transition that direction. And it doesn't benefit anyone but Apple. The only reason to do it is to charge more people for their chargers.
Also, did you see their Magsafe charger that cost $40 doesn't even come with an AC adapter? It's just the charging panel and a cable. You have to buy a separate AC adapter. ****ing ridiculous.
Not really ridiculous. It's good for the environment not to include AC adapters with everything when usually they are not needed by most people. For those who need one, Apple sells an accessory for a very affordable price.