Google Pixel Fold

[nfl46]

There's no way foldables of this size will be priced that low right now. A Pixel 7 Pro was originally $899--this has all the hardware of a traditional high end smartphone as well as everything needed for a small tablet using new folding glass and hardware that's going to cost more as it's unique to this device. I'll agree that $1799 feels too expensive but considering a Galaxy S23 Ultra and iPhone 14 Pro Max (256 GB) both cost $1200, why would anyone expect this type of hardware to cost less?

Lol. That's why I'm puzzled.

Retail price:
14PM (128) - $1,099
14PM (256) - $1,199
14PM (512) - $1,399
14PM (1TB) - $1,599

So, people really expect two of those (essentially what a fold is) to be much cheaper than $1,799?

No way in hellllll Apple is pricing that thing at $1,799 when it's just $200 over the Pro Max. It will easily be over $2K.

 

[blairh]

Lol. That's why I'm puzzled.

Retail price:
14PM (128) - $1,099
14PM (256) - $1,199
14PM (512) - $1,399
14PM (1TB) - $1,599

So, people really expect two of those (essentially what a fold is) to be much cheaper than $1,799?

No way in hellllll Apple is pricing that thing at $1,799 when it's just $200 over the Pro Max. It will easily be over $2K.

I don't agree with this.

4 years ago the Galaxy Fold debuted at $2,000. It's now $1,800.

It's not hard to imagine in 2025 that the Galaxy Fold 7 will be starting at $1,600.

There is no way Apple is going to release a folding iPhone for $2,000 or more in 2025, assuming that's when it's released. No matter how cool it is most consumers are going to balk at that price point. Apple knows this.

If I had to guess I'd say the folding iPhone will be $1,600 at launch in 2025. Matching the price of the GF7.

 

[jorgejjvr]

Hey all. New to foldables. Have a pixel 6 pro, always liked the idea of a foldable, but not going back to Samsung. I'm loving this.

What do you guys think of cases and/or tempered glass/screen protectors? Do you even use them for this phones? I'm guessing case yeah, but unsure about screen protectors. Only the main 5.8 screen? Not the big 7.6 screen?

Any thoughts there and/or recommendations? I'm looking into Spigen for cases, but unsure on screen protectors for foldables

 

[tbayrgs]

I don't agree with this.

4 years ago the Galaxy Fold debuted at $2,000. It's now $1,800.

It's not hard to imagine in 2025 that the Galaxy Fold 7 will be starting at $1,600.

There is no way Apple is going to release a folding iPhone for $2,000 or more in 2025, assuming that's when it's released. No matter how cool it is most consumers are going to balk at that price point. Apple knows this.

If I had to guess I'd say the folding iPhone will be $1,600 at launch in 2025. Matching the price of the GF7.

Not a chance any Apple foldable will be that inexpensive. Apple‘s pricing across all categories are noticeably higher than their competition. Apple and Samsung customers have entirely different price tolerances. Since when does Apple set their pricing strategy based on what Samsung does? Never. In fact, It’s usually the other way around.

No matter how cool it is most consumers are going to balk at that price point.

Yep, most customers but again, Apple’s customers aren’t most customers, especially those living at the more premium end. Their standard style smart phones are already priced up to $1599, you can spend $2400 on an iPad…AN IPAD, that also has a keyboard accessory that costs $350 , and their Macs cost far more than the typical Window’s PC. AirPods cost more on average than most competitors and their stand alone display starts at $1599. They have another display that starts at $4999–and that doesn’t include a $1000 stand. They are about to release a VR/AR headset with a rumored price of $3000. Apple lives in a different pricing stratosphere.

Apple doesn’t need to sell these high end devices to MOST consumers, they just need to appeal to ENOUGH consumers and we’ve all seen Apple has plenty of those. If they ever release a foldable phone, it’ll be significantly more expensive that any of the competition, guaranteed.

 

[blairh]

Not a chance any Apple foldable will be that inexpensive. Apple‘s pricing across all categories are noticeably higher than their competition. Apple and Samsung customers have entirely different price tolerances. Since when does Apple set their pricing strategy based on what Samsung does? Never. In fact, It’s usually the other way around.



Yep, most customers but again, Apple’s customers aren’t most customers, especially those living at the more premium end. Their standard style smart phones are already priced up to $1599, you can spend $2400 on an iPad…AN IPAD, that also has a keyboard accessory that costs $350 , and their Macs cost far more than the typical Window’s PC. AirPods cost more on average than most competitors and their stand alone display starts at $1599. They have another display that starts at $4999–and that doesn’t include a $1000 stand. They are about to release a VR/AR headset with a rumored price of $3000. Apple lives in a different pricing stratosphere.

Apple doesn’t need to sell these high end devices to MOST consumers, they just need to appeal to ENOUGH consumers and we’ve all seen Apple has plenty of those. If they ever release a foldable phone, it’ll be significantly more expensive that any of the competition, guaranteed.

$1,600 is not inexpensive. LOL. That's a starting price. Upgrade the storage tiers and you reach a $2,000 iPhone.

Given the GF7 could very well be $1,600 in 2025, I don't envision Apple releasing their foldable for $400 more to start. And the premium Samsung line competes directly price-wise with Apple. I don't see that changing with Apple's future foldable.

I completely disagree with your last point. The iPhone is their most important product. They can't and won't release a folding iPhone that has a huge price gap compared to the GF line. The will lose sales to the GF and there really is virtually no market for an iPhone that starts at $2,000. You can disagree with that all you want. We potentially have 2 years and change to get our answer, but I absolutely do not see the folding iPhone starting at $2,000.

 

[Ludatyk]

They can't and won't release a folding iPhone that has a huge price gap compared to the GF line. The will lose sales to the GF and there really is virtually no market for an iPhone that starts at $2,000. You can disagree with that all you want. We potentially have 2 years and change to get our answer, but I absolutely do not see the folding iPhone starting at $2,000.

I wouldn't be shocked to see starting price of 2,000 for a foldable iPhone in 2025 and you underestimate the power of Apple consumers. You might not be in the market for a foldable phone starting price at 2,000... but the cult of Apple will gladly pay that.

 

[blairh]

I wouldn't be shocked to see starting price of 2,000 for a foldable iPhone in 2025 and you underestimate the power of Apple consumers. You might not be in the market for a foldable phone starting price at 2,000... but the cult of Apple will gladly pay that.

It's not about my feelings at that price. It's about competing with the Fold and also, respectfully, common sense.

Apple and Samsung still compete directly with their premium lines. That will continue with the future folding iPhone.

I think this 'cult of Apple' argument is super vague and lame tbh. There are always limits to things too. If the Pro Max still starts at $1,100 in 2025 the folding iPhone is not going to be twice that.

 

[tbayrgs]

$1,600 is not inexpensive. LOL. That's a starting price. Upgrade the storage tiers and you reach a $2,000 iPhone.

Given the GF7 could very well be $1,600 in 2025, I don't envision Apple releasing their foldable for $400 more to start. And the premium Samsung line competes directly price-wise with Apple. I don't see that changing with Apple's future foldable.

I completely disagree with your last point. The iPhone is their most important product. They can't and won't release a folding iPhone that has a huge price gap compared to the GF line. The will lose sales to the GF and there really is virtually no market for an iPhone that starts at $2,000. You can disagree with that all you want. We potentially have 2 years and change to get our answer, but I absolutely do not see the folding iPhone starting at $2,000.

Agree to disagree then. The Pixel line of phones already dramatically undercuts the price respective iPhones...do you honestly think Apple loses a second of sleep over losing sales to Google? They don't, because they don't lose measurable sales. Apple sells more iPhones in a week than Google sells all year.

They can't and won't release a folding iPhone that has a huge price gap compared to the GF line. The will lose sales to the GF and there really is virtually no market for an iPhone that starts at $2,000.

There's a big enough market for Apple at $2K--same customers spending crazy amounts for their other expensively priced products. And a folding iPhone won't be their sales leader...they'll still sell probably 8 other versions of iPhones like they do know, and will sell hundreds of millions of them. But I guarantee they will still sell more folding iPhones, when it eventually comes out, that Samsung does, without breaking a sweat. And it will absolutely cost more. They already do this with their regular iPhones.

 

[jorgejjvr]

It's not about my feelings at that price. It's about competing with the Fold and also, respectfully, common sense.

Apple and Samsung still compete directly with their premium lines. That will continue with the future folding iPhone.

I think this 'cult of Apple' argument is super vague and lame tbh. There are always limits to things too. If the Pro Max still starts at $1,100 in 2025 the folding iPhone is not going to be twice that.

I fully expect Apples foldable to be $1,999

 

[blairh]

Agree to disagree then. The Pixel line of phones already dramatically undercuts the price respective iPhones...do you honestly think Apple loses a second of sleep over losing sales to Google? They don't, because they don't lose measurable sales. Apple sells more iPhones in a week than Google sells all year.



There's a big enough market for Apple at $2K--same customers spending crazy amounts for their other expensively priced products. And a folding iPhone won't be their sales leader...they'll still sell probably 8 other versions of iPhones like they do know, and will sell hundreds of millions of them. But I guarantee they will still sell more folding iPhones, when it eventually comes out, that Samsung does, without breaking a sweat. And it will absolutely cost more. They already do this with their regular iPhones.

Yes, let's agree to disagree and revisit this when it becomes a reality. Apple and Samsung already compete price-wise with their phones (the Samsung Galaxy S and Z lineup). That isn't going to change with the future Apple foldable.

 

[blairh]

I fully expect Apples foldable to be $1,999

Okay awesome LOL.

 

[tbayrgs]

It's not about my feelings at that price. It's about competing with the Fold and also, respectfully, common sense.

Apple and Samsung still compete directly with their premium lines. That will continue with the future folding iPhone.

I think this 'cult of Apple' argument is super vague and lame tbh. There are always limits to things too. If the Pro Max still starts at $1,100 in 2025 the folding iPhone is not going to be twice that.

Yup, and Apple absolutely destroys Samsung, and every other OEM for that matter, at the premium price point. Apple doesn't price their products in response to the market, everyone else reacts to Apple. And rumors are this year that price of iPhones is likely increasing (some rumors are as high as 15%). It doesn't matter if you think the 'cult of Apple' is lame or vague...it's backed up with facts. Results of a quick Google search--notice a common trend in every article?

 

[tbayrgs]

I'll end my tangent of discussing possible Apple pricing for their possible folding iPhone here...it's complete speculation and likely still years away.

Back on topic...still haven't cancelled my Pixel Fold preorder yet. 😂

 

[blairh]

Yup, and Apple absolutely destroys Samsung, and every other OEM for that matter, at the premium price point. Apple doesn't price their products in response to the market, everyone else reacts to Apple. And rumors are this year that price of iPhones is likely increasing (some rumors are as high as 15%). It doesn't matter if you think the 'cult of Apple' is lame or vague...it's backed up with facts. Results of a quick Google search--notice a common trend in every article?


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I look forward to linking this thread to you in Q3 2025. Cheers mate.

 

[jorgejjvr]

Hey all. New to foldables. Have a pixel 6 pro, always liked the idea of a foldable, but not going back to Samsung. I'm loving this.

What do you guys think of cases and/or tempered glass/screen protectors? Do you even use them for this phones? I'm guessing case yeah, but unsure about screen protectors. Only the main 5.8 screen? Not the big 7.6 screen?

Any thoughts there and/or recommendations? I'm looking into Spigen for cases, but unsure on screen protectors for foldables

Anyone?

 

[nfl46]

I don't agree with this.

4 years ago the Galaxy Fold debuted at $2,000. It's now $1,800.

It's not hard to imagine in 2025 that the Galaxy Fold 7 will be starting at $1,600.

There is no way Apple is going to release a folding iPhone for $2,000 or more in 2025, assuming that's when it's released. No matter how cool it is most consumers are going to balk at that price point. Apple knows this.

If I had to guess I'd say the folding iPhone will be $1,600 at launch in 2025. Matching the price of the GF7.

I want some of what you are smoking if you think the iPhone foldable will start at $1600 in two years. Lol. Does that mean the 17PM will be lower price then? Because the Foldable will likely start at 256GB and go up from there.

So, we have a 17PM (256GB) at $1,199 and the iPhone Foldable (256GB) at $1,599 -- basically two iPhone stacked together...

...yeah, Apple isn't starting cheap with their foldable. Maybe the price will go down after 3 versions or so.

Apple doesn't care how Google or Samsung is pricing their foldable because Apple users are willing to pay extra. And we all know neither Google or Samsung is touching Apple when it comes to number of flagships sold.

 

[blairh]

Anyone?

The GPF is 283 grams. A case is going to make it over 300 grams in your pocket.

My recommendation is to handle the GPF without a case first. If you don't feel comfortable using it without a case after doing so, then get a very light case if possible that will give you some grip.

I personally don't use screen protectors.

 

[jorgejjvr]

The GPF is 283 grams. A case is going to make it over 300 grams in your pocket.

My recommendation is to handle the GPF without a case first. If you don't feel comfortable using it without a case after doing so, then get a very light case if possible that will give you some grip.

I personally don't use screen protectors.

Yeah I'm thinking about the fit one from Spigen, seems very light. Not worried about weight tho. My current phone is probably that already with my big case + ring in back of phone

 

[jorgejjvr]

My pixel 6 has way too many scratches from normal use, so I'm debating if I should get one for the fold, even if only for the closed screen

 

[Aneres11]

The GPF is 283 grams. A case is going to make it over 300 grams in your pocket.

My recommendation is to handle the GPF without a case first. If you don't feel comfortable using it without a case after doing so, then get a very light case if possible that will give you some grip.

I personally don't use screen protectors.

Respectfully, not good advice if they want some protection! It's an expensive device! 🤣
To the original poster, Google themselves are doing some cases for the front and back which look pretty good. I think they're silicone based.

Or for a wider selection, I've seen some SWEET ones on Casetify which includes personalized options!

You will definitely be able to get a tempered glass protector for the external screen. A quick Amazon search show Spigen, amongst others, have some for sale. A lot of the early glass protectors for new devices are trial and error, though.

Re the internal screen. I haven't seen anything about google pre-installing a plastic protector which I believe Samsung do with their foldables?
I think you'd likely find a non-glass protector for sale, but I think you're better waiting on reviews as I'd have anxiety about sticking something to an inner foldable display until I knew it worked and also came off without damage.

 

[jorgejjvr]

Respectfully, not good advice if they want some protection! It's an expensive device! 🤣
To the original poster, Google themselves are doing some cases for the front and back which look pretty good. I think they're silicone based.

Or for a wider selection, I've seen some SWEET ones on Casetify which includes personalized options!

You will definitely be able to get a tempered glass protector for the external screen. A quick Amazon search show Spigen, amongst others, have some for sale. A lot of the early glass protectors for new devices are trial and error, though.

Re the internal screen. I haven't seen anything about google pre-installing a plastic protector which I believe Samsung do with their foldables?
I think you'd likely find a non-glass protector for sale, but I think you're better waiting on reviews as I'd have anxiety about sticking something to an inner foldable display until I knew it worked and also came off without damage.

That's what I'm thinking. A slim case, and tempered glass for exterior screen, and wait and see on internal screen.

Appreciate it

 

[blairh]

Respectfully, not good advice if they want some protection! It's an expensive device! 🤣
To the original poster, Google themselves are doing some cases for the front and back which look pretty good. I think they're silicone based.

Or for a wider selection, I've seen some SWEET ones on Casetify which includes personalized options!

You will definitely be able to get a tempered glass protector for the external screen. A quick Amazon search show Spigen, amongst others, have some for sale. A lot of the early glass protectors for new devices are trial and error, though.

Re the internal screen. I haven't seen anything about google pre-installing a plastic protector which I believe Samsung do with their foldables?
I think you'd likely find a non-glass protector for sale, but I think you're better waiting on reviews as I'd have anxiety about sticking something to an inner foldable display until I knew it worked and also came off without damage.

I didn’t say don’t get a case. I said handle it and then decide. It’s already a brick case-less.

 

[Ludatyk]

Hey all. New to foldables. Have a pixel 6 pro, always liked the idea of a foldable, but not going back to Samsung. I'm loving this.

I'm curious... why are you not going back to Samsung?

What do you guys think of cases and/or tempered glass/screen protectors? Do you even use them for this phones? I'm guessing case yeah, but unsure about screen protectors. Only the main 5.8 screen? Not the big 7.6 screen?

I'm personally not a fan of a case on smartphones (if anything I"ll go with a bumper)... I prefer the naked feel of the device, but that's me. And as @blairh mention, adding a case can add bulk to an already bulky device.

But I think screen protectors are important... primarily to avoid micro-scratches. I use it on the cover and inner screen on my Fold.

 

[jorgejjvr]

I'm curious... why are you not going back to Samsung?


I'm personally not a fan of a case on smartphones (if anything I"ll go with a bumper)... I prefer the naked feel of the device, but that's me. And as @blairh mention, adding a case can add bulk to an already bulky device.

But I think screen protectors are important... primarily to avoid micro-scratches. I use it on the cover and inner screen on my Fold.

I'm now in love with the pixel experience. I'm basically all in on the software. I also went to Switzerland recently, and holy cow can this thing take great pictures. My wife has a iphone 14 pro, which is more recent, but we still ended up using my pixel. It's all the little things, now listening, recorder, magic eraser, software updates etc. Plus I got the pixel buds, and my house is decked out on Google home as well. I just prefer the software experience on pixel over Samsung, vanilla android is also great

This feels like the BMW of Android (software wise) for me, which is funny cause it cost me less than Samsung high level phones, and i still prefer the cheaper Pixel lol

 

[jorgejjvr]

When it comes to foldables specifically, looking from the outside in. Ive never been a fan of the skinny Z fold design, yikes. The pixel fold looks much wider and I love that. Seems like a better normal phone when not folded. I also like that it's less tall, way better for one handed