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Ludatyk

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That's what I'm saying. I'd rather it cost $2,100 and have the very top end of everything.
Yeah, but if the price is too high... it won't sell as much. That's why there's trade offs in order to get the price at a reasonable price for the average consumer.
 

mjschabow

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Yeah, but if the price is too high... it won't sell as much. That's why there's trade offs in order to get the price at a reasonable price for the average consumer.
Oh totally get it. I just think if someone is already well off enough to spend $1800, will that extra $200-$300 more for the same specs as the S23 Ultra really be a deal breaker. Maybe for some but I just think if you're already shelling out that much, just go for the home run.
 
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clerkpalmer

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Yeah, but if the price is too high... it won't sell as much. That's why there's trade offs in order to get the price at a reasonable price for the average consumer.
As it is, $1799 is probably too high for the average consumer. Mostly for us phone nerds. Even I have limits on my gadgets however and I personally wouldn't pay more for the current chipset if given the choice.
 

clerkpalmer

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Oh totally get it. I just think if someone is already well off enough to spend $1800, will that extra $200-$300 more for the same specs as the S23 Ultra really be a deal breaker. Maybe for some but I just think if you're already shelling out that much, just go for the home run.
I'm sure these companies have lots of market research on this. I think you'd be hard pressed to notice the difference between this year and last year's chipsets on any modern high end smartphone. I understand wanting the best - it's why I upgrade my iphone every year - but in reality, the differences are negligible.
 

mjschabow

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As it is, $1799 is probably too high for the average consumer. Mostly for us phone nerds. Even I have limits on my gadgets however and I personally wouldn't pay more for the current chipset if given the choice.
That's my point though, if you're marketing to a niche audience, just swing for the fences. Ultra Foldable - $2,200. I'd get it in a heartbeat.
 
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clerkpalmer

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That's my point though, if you're marketing to a niche audience, just swing for the fences. Ultra Foldable - $2,200. I'd get it in a heartbeat.
Lol. I think you’d be happy with a slightly less than “ultra” foldable. That said I’m sure it’s only a matter of time until a z fold “pro” version is made.
 

Ludatyk

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That's my point though, if you're marketing to a niche audience, just swing for the fences. Ultra Foldable - $2,200. I'd get it in a heartbeat.
I completely understand. But I don't know.. as I stated the main draw of a foldable is phone+tablet part, if that's done remarkably then I'm in.

Having the top of the line camera and the brightest screen doesn't move the needle for me.
 

clerkpalmer

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I completely understand. But I don't know.. as I stated the main draw of a foldable is phone+tablet part, if that's done remarkably then I'm in.

Having the top of the line camera and the brightest screen doesn't move the needle for me.
Since you have a Fold 4, are you getting the Pixel?
 

Bkdodger

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Haha count me in I'd pay the extra lmao but I understand it from overall selling point
 

Ludatyk

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Since you have a Fold 4, are you getting the Pixel?
Absolutely not lol. But I'm rooting for it... I want it to be successful.

I'm not even getting the Fold 5 when that is released... my eyes are set on the Fold 6, since that's when Samsung plans to have a wider cover/outer display. And fingers cross with a silo for the S-Pen.
 

nfl46

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The tiniest bit of something got in there, and when I closed the display, the pressure of the other display side was enough to puncture the OLED panel. It didn't see or feel anything when closing the device, but the display pixels started freaking out. After going over the device with a magnifying glass, I think I found where the puncture was.

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Come on, Google! Smh.
 

clerkpalmer

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The tiniest bit of something got in there, and when I closed the display, the pressure of the other display side was enough to puncture the OLED panel. It didn't see or feel anything when closing the device, but the display pixels started freaking out. After going over the device with a magnifying glass, I think I found where the puncture was.

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Come on, Google! Smh.
If you follow the Fold forums, this stuff happens from time to time. It's too early to determine if this was a one off or a real design flaw. Somehow, my gut tells me that Google has enough engineering prowess that it is not a design flaw but rather a rare example of things going bad. For sure, there will be more screen failures with any foldable device. It just happens out of the blue on Z Folds. Hence my point about insurance. While these have warranties, you really need the insurance to get the white glove treatment such as an overnighted replacement. With a standard warranty claim, they will make you send the phone in first. I just budget the monthly insurance cost as part of the deal with a foldable.
 
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Bkdodger

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Do we know if you can unfold the screen and you see the person you gonna take a picture off, but they also see themselves with the other screen? Essentially both screens on, i dont mean the selfie mode they have shown
Havent seen anyone address that yet. I know it is possible to use dual screen with both the outer and inner screens on simultaneously for google translate but I haven't seen any other instances where both screens are on. Guess we will know in a couple days.

Think I found it here around the 2 min mark

 

jorgejjvr

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He says around 7 minutes 6-8 hours of screen time

Woke up at around 645 am, and was up till 2 am of the next day, and had like 21% battery. That's pretty good, i don't get that today with my Pixel 6
 

nfl46

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He says around 7 minutes 6-8 hours of screen time

Woke up at around 645 am, and was up till 2 am of the next day, and had like 21% battery. That's pretty good, i don't get that today with my Pixel 6
He also goes on to say he wasn't really using the inside screen and that's why he got around 6 half hours on screen on time.

With the inside screen being used more, he's probably looking at 4 to 5 hours screen on time which falls in line with MKBHD was getting.
 
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jorgejjvr

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He also goes on to say he wasn't really using the inside screen and that's why he got around 6 half hours on screen on time.

With the inside screen being used more, he's probably looking at 4 to 5 hours screen on time which falls in line with MKBHD was getting.
Makes sense to me, still good enough in my mind
 
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