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Bkdodger

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Fold 5 you can feel the inner screen is better to the touch indeed.. screen keeps its brightness better as well... Otherwise I'm cool with the hinge of the Pixel Fold .. Google did a great job though for its first gen.. I wouldn't trade my pixel fold for the ZF5.. well maybe right around this time next year with Samsung trade-in offers lol
 
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raqball

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The fit and finish of the galaxy fold is definitely better than the Pixel. Not just the size of the bezels, but the material used is nicer, the hinge is better and snaps perfectly flat. It definitely feels like a gen 5 vs the Pixel which feels like a gen 2.
You have both phones in hand? I had the GF and the GF 3 and have to strongly disagree that the Pixel Fold feels like a Galaxy Fold 2. As a matter of fact, it's not even close. The PF destroys the GF 3 I had never mind the GF2 (never had)..

I'll go play with a GF5 once they are in store but I highly doubt it's going to be anywhere even close to what you just described.
 

Awesomesince86

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Disagree with a lot of that.

-Better build quality? Having owned 2 GF's over the years and now a PF, I'd say build quality is the same. What makes you say the GF has better build quality?

-Better specs? In some areas, yes but in other areas, no. The cameras on the PF are much better than the GF.

-I see no difference between the GF and PF inner displays. The GF5 gets brighter, sure. Creases are the same, screens are the same. Bezels on the PF? A non issue for just about everyone who has used one for a period of time.

I doubt Google will ever use voodoo to stretch apps like Samsung does. Google will try to get devs to make large screen apps.

I prefer Samsung OS but I don't think Google needs to do much with a PF2. Pen support might be a must, especially if the GF6 comes with an integrated pen. A Tensor G3 processor? Yup.. Further refinement? You bet.

Having said all that, IF the GF6 is similar dimensions to the PF (shorter and wider) with a usable cover display then I'd make the jump back. Why? I prefer Samsung OS and it's customization options.

Build quality: PF is the best Google has done but it falls short of Samsung. Worse screens, bigger bezel, worse processor, worse Bluetooth. Just need to up it a bit but I still think it’s pretty good. But we’ll see how durability holds up over time.

Specs: already covered it but PF basically only wins on cameras which so seem much better. Also I think the PF charges faster and has a slightly bigger battery.

Displays: Samsung wins and it’s more clearly when side by side. Bezels aren’t a huge thing but the Pf uses older screen tech, no full variable refresh, not as bright, older screen cover tech. But the outside screen on the PF is a clear upgrade just due to the dimensions and actually being usable.

Regarding apps: I hope Google doesn’t add software that stretches apps like Samsung. It makes the user experience better, but in the long run it just gives devs an excuse not to update their apps.

I want the PF to be a success because it’s ultimately what will drive tablet and foldable adoption on android. They need to force devs to get on board.
 
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Ludatyk

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The Pixel cameras are all better than what I had on the Fold4 and the under display camera is a joke. Samsung needs to scrap that and go back to the hole punch
I don't have a problem with the Fold4 main camera... it hasn't drove me to the point where I'm looking for a different smartphone, its enough for me.

I'm kind of torn on the "go back to the hole punch," because on one hand... I enjoy the immersive experience with the UDC. And I'm glad that Samsung is still gambling on it. I avoid doing video calling on the Fold4 (I rely on FaceTime with my iPad).

But I do want them to improve on the UDC technology (increase the mega pixels) for selfie purposes. I tend to use the main camera while using the cover display as a view finder.

Does anyone know if you can hook it up to a USB-C monitor to view the phones screen on the monitor?
As far as I know... from watching reviews. The Pixel Fold doesn't support USB-C video output to monitors or TVs.
 
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raqball

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Displays: Pf uses older screen tech, no full variable refresh
Appears as though you are seriously misinformed..

The Pixel Fold does indeed have a variable refresh. It uses 60-120. The GF5 uses a Variable Refresh between 48-120.

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ofarlig

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Appears as though you are seriously misinformed..

The Pixel Fold does indeed have a variable refresh. It uses 60-120. The GF5 uses a Variable Refresh between 48-120.

If the PF only does 60-120 Hz he is correct that it is not full variable refresh rate. The GF5 has the same 1-120 Hz variable refresh rate as the GF4 had for the inside screen which means it can save a lot of battery when there isn’t movement on the screen.
 
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raqball

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If the PF only does 60-120 Hz he is correct that it is not full variable refresh rate. The GF5 has the same 1-120 Hz variable refresh rate as the GF4 had for the inside screen which means it can save a lot of battery when there isn’t movement on the screen.
The GF 4 and GF 5 do 48-120 as I stated. That's not full variable refresh. I mean, people are free believe whatever they'd like..

Edit: So I found a few reports that claim 1-120 refresh when in tablet mode but zero sites where actual testing confirms this. I found one test that said they recorded it dropping to 24.

Do you happen to have any reputable testing that shows the display drops to 1? I can't find any. All I found were claims of such with no proof never mind any sites that claim an estimated battery savings.
 
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Ludatyk

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Unless I were an art major, I don't see the point of a pen
The S-Pen is different from what you think... more capable than the Apple Pencil. And don't get me wrong, I enjoy using the Apple Pencil on my iPad. But Samsung has integrated their pen into the operating system in comparison to what Apple has done.

From using gestures to perform actions as well as applying shortcuts. And it’s really nice navigating around Android using the S-Pen, which is part of the reason I moved away from the iPhone.
 
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Bkdodger

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The S-Pen is different from what you think... more capable than the Apple Pencil. And don't get me wrong, I enjoy using the Apple Pencil on my iPad. But Samsung has integrated their pen into the operating system in comparison to what Apple has done.

From using gestures to perform actions as well as applying shortcuts when using the S-Pen. And its really nice navigating around Android using the S-Pen, which is part of the reason I moved away from the iPhone.

It's truly the best user experience and OS companion...
 
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The S-Pen is different from what you think... more capable than the Apple Pencil. And don't get me wrong, I enjoy using the Apple Pencil on my iPad. But Samsung has integrated their pen into the operating system in comparison to what Apple has done.

From using gestures to perform actions as well as applying shortcuts. And it’s really nice navigating around Android using the S-Pen, which is part of the reason I moved away from the iPhone.
I use my S-Pen daily as I help my friend out who builds houses

With palm side swipe snapshot on my Fold 4 I can annotate large site pictures and drawings efficiently

I am not sure why many think its just for creatives its an engineering tool for me
 
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ofarlig

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The GF 4 and GF 5 do 48-120 as I stated. That's not full variable refresh. I mean, people are free believe whatever they'd like..

Edit: So I found a few reports that claim 1-120 refresh when in tablet mode but zero sites where actual testing confirms this. I found one test that said they recorded it dropping to 24.

Do you happen to have any reputable testing that shows the display drops to 1? I can't find any. All I found were claims of such with no proof never mind any sites that claim an estimated battery savings.

48-120 Hz is only for the front display. 1-120 Hz is for the main display and is stated on the Samsung webpage.

The battery life will be better the lower it drop.
 
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raqball

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48-120 Hz is only for the front display. 1-120 Hz is for the main display and is stated on the Samsung webpage.

The battery life will be better the lower it drop.
So then like I asked, please source testing that shows it actually drops to 1 and shows the amount of battery savings gained...

I'll wait...
 

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So then like I asked, please source testing that shows it actually drops to 1 and shows the amount of battery savings gained...

I'll wait...

Why would I need to link testing for that? It is a stated spec like everything else. If you are claiming Samsung is lying the burden of proof is on you, you have to show that under all testing conditions it was impossible to get the screen to go to 1 Hz.

Face the facts, PF has an old screen tech at this point where it doesn’t go lower than 60 Hz. How big of a difference that makes depends fully on what you are doing. It will have more of an impact when reading books compared to scrolling the web and so on.
 
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Awesomesince86

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Appears as though you are seriously misinformed..

The Pixel Fold does indeed have a variable refresh. It uses 60-120. The GF5 uses a Variable Refresh between 48-120.

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No, you are misinformed. The Galaxy Fold has a “full variable refresh” screen, which means 1-120 on the inner screen and 48-120 on the outer screen…both better than the PF which only goes between 60-120. This makes a considerable difference in battery savings.

I see now that someone has already explained this to you and instead of admitting you were wrong you are asking them to prove it to you. Wow. Ok how about this…you showed me a picture of the PF saying it goes between 60-120. I don’t believe you. Prove it actually does that. Don’t worry, I’ll wait.

See how dumb that is?
 
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Aneres11

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I got a response from Google and they have reissued me a new 20% off code.
Now I’ve had days to wait I’m wondering if I’ve gone off the idea 😂. I think I’ll still go for it as if I didn’t like the phone I could just return it, it’s just with me trading in my 7 Pro I wouldn’t get it back.

I’ll decide after work later what I want to do. 😅
 

Bkdodger

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I got a response from Google and they have reissued me a new 20% off code.
Now I’ve had days to wait I’m wondering if I’ve gone off the idea . I think I’ll still go for it as if I didn’t like the phone I could just return it, it’s just with me trading in my 7 Pro I wouldn’t get it back.

I’ll decide after work later what I want to do.
I can only say from having the P7P I love the phone but It's a slab phone lol

Get on with the new lol and come over to the fold side
 

tbayrgs

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Sitting in a car driving 7 hours yesterday and another 7 today after being away from home for nearly a month is not good for a wandering mind with a tech itch to scratch….

So of course I’ve once again ordered a Pixel Fold with an ETA sometime in the next week. 😂
 

raqball

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Why would I need to link testing for that? It is a stated spec like everything else. If you are claiming Samsung is lying the burden of proof is on you, you have to show that under all testing conditions it was impossible to get the screen to go to 1 Hz.

Face the facts, PF has an old screen tech at this point where it doesn’t go lower than 60 Hz. How big of a difference that makes depends fully on what you are doing. It will have more of an impact when reading books compared to scrolling the web and so on.
No, you are misinformed. The Galaxy Fold has a “full variable refresh” screen, which means 1-120 on the inner screen and 48-120 on the outer screen…both better than the PF which only goes between 60-120. This makes a considerable difference in battery savings.

I see now that someone has already explained this to you and instead of admitting you were wrong you are asking them to prove it to you. Wow. Ok how about this…you showed me a picture of the PF saying it goes between 60-120. I don’t believe you. Prove it actually does that. Don’t worry, I’ll wait.

See how dumb that is?

In other words you can't.. Got it.

So your entire argument is that Samsung marketing says it's true. There is not a single test that proves it drops to 1 and there is not a single test that shows the battery savings IF it actually did so.. 🤣🤣🤣

Anyways, neither of you have a GF5 and are making as a matter of fact comparisons saying the GF5 destroys the PF.. So yes, I do see how dumb that is..

Have a good day, I am out..
 

aggie99

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Sitting in a car driving 7 hours yesterday and another 7 today after being away from home for nearly a month is not good for a wandering mind with a tech itch to scratch….

So of course I’ve once again ordered a Pixel Fold with an ETA sometime in the next week. 😂
I know that feeling too well. My weakness for shiny new tech toys is kind of like my weakness for pretty women back before I got married. I can't turn any of them down 🤦‍♂️
 

aggie99

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Unless I were an art major, I don't see the point of a pen
The S-Pen is for way more than just sketching or coloring. Being in the construction business I can write on and edit construction drawings, sign documents, write down notes, etc. It has many more capabilities than just drawing on the screen. That is the one major advantage Samsung still holds over the Pixel Fold. There are definitely some other advantages the Z Fold still holds, but none that are important enough to offset the front screen, camera, and pixel software experience that I prefer.
 
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