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Google should ditch Samsung
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Yeah but at least we have us regulars who are more open minded - just have to ignore all the detritus being thrown around, I do....
Yep that's all we can do. It's not like we are talking sports here on which team is better. There's no right or wrong choice with tech.
I think this applies to those who were early adopters of Samsung especially those who got burned getting the Galaxy Nexus. Because of that, I've told myself that I will not be getting any Samsung devices if I went back to Android. I'll still look into the newer Note/Galaxy series because I haven't handled them for the past few iterations but ultimately I think I would pass on them.
I can definitely see a situation in the future in which Samsung drops Android and goes with their own OS. It seems unlikely but anything is possible.
I have heard about some of the issues with the Galaxy Nexus. Not good.....
It is very interesting all the testing Samsung has done with Tizen. It seems like they would be better suited to streamline/optimize TW but that is just MHO......
Couple points:
Samsung has marketed itself to be the iPhone alternative, so they have the best consumer perception.
Their screens have that wow factor, so they show very well in retail environments.
When the question of camera quality comes into play, Samsung's have the best overall cameras out of the other android devices. So that immediately rules out many.
Easy mode- logical transition for many coming into their first smartphone. Oddly enough, also appealing for many coming from an iPhone (I'm referring to the non tech, general consumer).
The physical home button- sense of familiarity.
Having owned both the S5 and iPhone 6 i can tell you now touchwiz on 4.4.2 is alot less buggy and lag free than iOS 8.0.2 is on the 6 & 6 Plus is atm.
If anything Android now is the better OS was not always the case mind, but since the advent of Kitkat things have got alot better & Android L will improve on this further.
If anything Android now is the better OS was not always the case mind, but since the advent of Kitkat things have got alot better & Android L will improve on this further.
Most of Samsung's sales are the low cost Android devices that you don't really hear about - and they sell a lot! This is good for Google because Google only cares about the volume of phones out there running its services. In this case, Samsung provides the bulk of that volume so I don't think it would be wise for Google to ditch.
It would probably be more beneficial for Samsung to leave Google, however, as it makes its profits from hardware sales - hence the high promotion of Galaxy S and Note lines which are more expensive. If Samsung didn't have to rely on Android to sell the devices, it would reap more benefits from selling the low-cost devices running its own OS. However, it's clear that at this point the ransition would be difficult if not impossible given Android popularity and consumers' commitment to it. Google would really have to drop the ball with Android somehow or Samsung would need to build a very strong brand following for the Galaxy line that would continue to buy the devices even if they didn't run Android.
It would probably be more beneficial for Samsung to leave Google, however, as it makes its profits from hardware sales - hence the high promotion of Galaxy S and Note lines which are more expensive. If Samsung didn't have to rely on Android to sell the devices, it would reap more benefits from selling the low-cost devices running its own OS. However, it's clear that at this point the ransition would be difficult if not impossible given Android popularity and consumers' commitment to it. Google would really have to drop the ball with Android somehow or Samsung would need to build a very strong brand following for the Galaxy line that would continue to buy the devices even if they didn't run Android.
Yes but if you were to root a Samsung device youre going to trip Knox and then you will invalidate your warranty and hurt your chances of ever repairing the phone if something goes wrong, even if it's fairly minor, for an expensive phone it's a big risk to take.
also in the case of the note series flashing a different rom will likely result in you losing some spen features.
Also no refunds after that either.
You'll be delighted to know the Galaxy Alpha doesn't have KNOX at all
neither the software or the flag/hardware trip switch.....Yay!!!!
Google should ditch Samsung? Lol they are probably the MVP on Google's house.
Eventually Samsung will leave but not the other way around, atleast not in the next couple of years.
Eventually Samsung will leave but not the other way around, atleast not in the next couple of years.
I was asking myself today why did a 4-year old company like Xiaomi become #1 in China and topple Samsung so fast? Low price? There are literally hundreds of Chinese clones that are cheaper. I realize because of the quality they put behind their products which is unusual for a Chinese brand and the hype they generate with flash sales.
Which made me think of Samsung's future and most other bigger players in the Western markets. I believe the Android One program is going to change the dynamics once again. Most people will stop buying $700 smartphones and go to those $100 phones instead. Even iPhone users will buy an Android One device to use as a spare.
Google's plans for the NEXT BILLION Android users is reachable. And I see Samsung and many others including carriers locking people with contracts will start getting affected by it. How I envision it being more of an even playing field will start to come into fruition. No longer one dominant manufacturer in the Android race.
Which made me think of Samsung's future and most other bigger players in the Western markets. I believe the Android One program is going to change the dynamics once again. Most people will stop buying $700 smartphones and go to those $100 phones instead. Even iPhone users will buy an Android One device to use as a spare.
Google's plans for the NEXT BILLION Android users is reachable. And I see Samsung and many others including carriers locking people with contracts will start getting affected by it. How I envision it being more of an even playing field will start to come into fruition. No longer one dominant manufacturer in the Android race.
Google chose to offer Android for free, so they really have no right to complain when companies like Samsung get to do whatever they want with the OS, for better and for worse.
It's called "You reap what you sow".
You'll be delighted to know the Galaxy Alpha doesn't have KNOX at all
Yay!!!!
Also tier worse phone really. Mid range specs for a high range price. I wouldn't go for it, the only Sammy device id consider would be the note 4 and possibly an upcoming S6.
I wouldn't say the specs on the Alpha is Mid Range. Compared to most phablets, most of the specs are around the same range or equal, so the Alpha is good for a non phablet.
A few years back I bought a GTab 2 7.0 Student Edition. It was a decently performing tablet at the time. After rooting it and removing SOME of Samsung's bloatware, performance was greatly improved. It is still a snappy little tab.
I've recently purchased a GTab Pro 8.4 ($249 @ BestBuy was too good to pass up). With stock TouchWiz, there is no lag at all. Part of me wants to root it and remove the similar bloat to see how blazing this thing could be.
But TouchWiz, or more specifically, the system additions that Samsung has added to Android, is something that I've come to appreciate. Multi-window is quite nice. With the 8.4, you can have custom profiles of multi-window configurations to automatically load, size, and position 2 apps with a single tap.
The widget-like floating applets are handy.
I've recently purchased a GTab Pro 8.4 ($249 @ BestBuy was too good to pass up). With stock TouchWiz, there is no lag at all. Part of me wants to root it and remove the similar bloat to see how blazing this thing could be.
But TouchWiz, or more specifically, the system additions that Samsung has added to Android, is something that I've come to appreciate. Multi-window is quite nice. With the 8.4, you can have custom profiles of multi-window configurations to automatically load, size, and position 2 apps with a single tap.
The widget-like floating applets are handy.
Google might as well have had bought Samsung; Samsung surely could not exist without Google anyways.
Other than screen resolution you are wrong.
Indeed my Alpha is benchmarking higher than nearly ALL other android devices currently available. That is not something that happens in mid range hardware.
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