Google should ditch Samsung

[MRU]

I'm using TW on my Note 4 with no lag or issues.

Yep it was smooth as butter on the S5 with only the app refresh from multitasking being the only hiccup.

On the Alpha with less background services installed don't have the issue with refreshing and still smooth as butter.

Can't imagine why the Note 4 with such big big specs behind it and 3gb ram would be any different, and it's good to know it's just as smooth.

Any new S-Pen features over the Note 3 and Note Pro tablets???

 

[RMXO]

Yep it was smooth as butter on the S5 with only the app refresh from multitasking being the only hiccup.

On the Alpha with less background services installed don't have the issue with refreshing and still smooth as butter.

Can't imagine why the Note 4 with such big big specs behind it and 3gb ram would be any different, and it's good to know it's just as smooth.

Any new S-Pen features over the Note 3 and Note Pro tablets???

With the Note 4, you get Action Memo, Smart Select, Image Clip & Screen Write instead of the 5 from the Note 3. So its missing S-Finder, Pen Window and Scrapbook (there's still a Scrapbook app though).

Note 4 still have some bloat but it's still super fast with either apps disabled or not disabled. Since mine isn't rooted (still deciding if I should use KNOX or not for work), I disable all the apps I don't use. Call it a force of habit.

I love the pedometer, its like the LG G3 where its on and keeps track for you. With the Note 3, I had to turn it on for it to keep track of my steps. This one does it for you once you sign into S-Health. Pictures are amazing but I don't have an eye for photos like some people on here.

 

[Moto G]

The entire planet should ditch Google AND Samsung - noone would miss them OR their crappy products.

 

[spinedoc77]

The entire planet should ditch Google AND Samsung - noone would miss them OR their crappy products.

Oh boy, another hater. What the heck is going on with the forums these days that we get people raging behind their computer screens about a freaking company?

 

[Moto G]

Oh boy, another hater. What the heck is going on with the forums these days that we get people raging behind their computer screens about a freaking company?

That's my view, as much as you try to reason your way around it or side-step it by calling me "a hater". I don't "hate" anything, I just have ZERO respect for Samsung or Google, and wouldn't shed a tear if either (or both) of them went out of business - they're crooks.

 

[beosound3200]

That's my view, as much as you try to reason your way around it or side-step it by calling me "a hater". I don't "hate" anything, I just have ZERO respect for Samsung or Google, and wouldn't shed a tear if either (or both) of them went out of business - they're crooks.

Both have very unrespectable business models, i agree

 

[spinedoc77]

That's my view, as much as you try to reason your way around it or side-step it by calling me "a hater". I don't "hate" anything, I just have ZERO respect for Samsung or Google, and wouldn't shed a tear if either (or both) of them went out of business - they're crooks.

They are "crooks" or they are a profit company built on making money from selling a product? Do you feel that Apple are less "crooks"? I mean seriously, you have "ZERO" respect for either of these multi billion dollar companies which bring innovation daily into the world? You may not "prefer" their products, but without them at the very least we would not have the competition that spurs Apple into making a better product.

It's just such an extreme position for someone to have "ZERO" respect for these companies, it feels so personal and huge.

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Both have very unrespectable business models, i agree

What is unrespectable about their business models?

 

[beosound3200]

They are "crooks" or they are a profit company built on making money from selling a product? Do you feel that Apple are less "crooks"? I mean seriously, you have "ZERO" respect for either of these multi billion dollar companies which bring innovation daily into the world? You may not "prefer" their products, but without them at the very least we would not have the competition that spurs Apple into making a better product.

It's just such an extreme position for someone to have "ZERO" respect for these companies, it feels so personal and huge.

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What is unrespectable about their business models?

samsung is spineless and google is adware

 

[sc4rf4c3]

samsung is spineless and google is adware

So Apple is spineless and adware because both companies are in their products. Ok got it.

 

[beosound3200]

So Apple is spineless and adware because both companies are in their products. Ok got it.

you got it wrong

 

[MRU]

Why has so many trolls invaded the alternatives forum lately? Is there really that much insecurity...

 

[gotluck]

Why has so many trolls invaded the alternatives forum lately? Is there really that much insecurity...

Yes

 

[kevinof]

Every time there is an Apple product release it happens. Every single time. Might be insecurity, might be guilt, might be they think the grass is greener over here.

Anyway I just ignore them. There are many Apple fans here that you can have a serious debate with, that think before they type. Enough to keep you busy for a long time.

Why has so many trolls invaded the alternatives forum lately? Is there really that much insecurity...

 

[Technarchy]

Why has so many trolls invaded the alternatives forum lately? Is there really that much insecurity...

Pfft.

Why don't you pop into the iPhone section and you'll see plenty of people that have signed up in the last 3 months for the sole purpose of trolling the iPhone forum.

If anything the alternative section is a refuge from trolls in comparison.

 

[Moto G]

You know... it's not the best way to discuss things, to try and FORCE people - by persuasion or derision - into changing their opinions, just because you happen not to like their opinions.

I dislike Google and I dislike Samsung; both are HIGHLY HIGHLY unethical, slippery companies - if you can't accept that this is my opinion, may I suggest you leave the internet, folks, and take up knitting or bowling.

I don't feel any need to HAVE HAVE *HAVE* to agree with apologists or persuaders from ANY side - don't feel the need to defend myself, and neither would I expecy anyone else to be insecure enough about their views to feel the need to defend them to complete strangers on some random forum.

Before you jump to some simplistic, simpleton assumption-based conclusion which is that you think you know what platform I prefer/use, based on my username - you'd be wrong, immediately - you don't know what I am using, and no it is NOT a Moto G, nor is it Android, nor is it iOS.

Cheerio, pedants.

 

[lazard]

You know... it's not the best way to discuss things, to try and FORCE people - by persuasion or derision - into changing their opinions, just because you happen not to like their opinions.

I dislike Google and I dislike Samsung; both are HIGHLY HIGHLY unethical, slippery companies - if you can't accept that this is my opinion, may I suggest you leave the internet, folks, and take up knitting or bowling.

I don't feel any need to HAVE HAVE *HAVE* to agree with apologists or persuaders from ANY side - don't feel the need to defend myself, and neither would I expecy anyone else to be insecure enough about their views to feel the need to defend them to complete strangers on some random forum.

Before you jump to some simplistic, simpleton assumption-based conclusion which is that you think you know what platform I prefer/use, based on my username - you'd be wrong, immediately - you don't know what I am using, and no it is NOT a Moto G, nor is it Android, nor is it iOS.

Cheerio, pedants.

oh please...like Apple is the most ethical company.

 

[Michael Goff]

That's my view, as much as you try to reason your way around it or side-step it by calling me "a hater". I don't "hate" anything, I just have ZERO respect for Samsung or Google, and wouldn't shed a tear if either (or both) of them went out of business - they're crooks.

You do know that if both went under ... likely well over a hundred thousand people would be jobless.

 

[Moto G]

oh please...like Apple is the most ethical company.

Sorry... I don't recall having mentioned Apple - show me where I did, please?

Even if I *had* brought them into it (which I haven't) and even if they were unethical... what possible relationship does that bear to Samsung and Google's inherent untrustworthiness? (which is what I was talking about, unless you've wandered SO far off track, you're now lost?) See... the flaw in your response is that you're playing games and wandering down another path, as you aren't able to address the issue of Samsung and Google head on, so you drag an unrelated, undiscussed and irrelevant third party into the conversation... which is plain illogical, irrelevant and absurd.

So, assuming Apple WERE being discussed... how would their credibility and integrity be ANYTHING to do with what Samsung or Google?

Don't take people for fools - it would be better to think your responses through before typing them, I feel.

 

[spinedoc77]

You know... it's not the best way to discuss things, to try and FORCE people - by persuasion or derision - into changing their opinions, just because you happen not to like their opinions.

I dislike Google and I dislike Samsung; both are HIGHLY HIGHLY unethical, slippery companies - if you can't accept that this is my opinion, may I suggest you leave the internet, folks, and take up knitting or bowling.

I don't feel any need to HAVE HAVE *HAVE* to agree with apologists or persuaders from ANY side - don't feel the need to defend myself, and neither would I expecy anyone else to be insecure enough about their views to feel the need to defend them to complete strangers on some random forum.

Before you jump to some simplistic, simpleton assumption-based conclusion which is that you think you know what platform I prefer/use, based on my username - you'd be wrong, immediately - you don't know what I am using, and no it is NOT a Moto G, nor is it Android, nor is it iOS.

Cheerio, pedants.

Why are they unethical? I'm just curious what makes a company like Apple "ethical"? My personal opinion is they are ALL unethical. Major corporations have become so entrenched in putting profit ahead of everything else. Just because Apple puts out a great product doesn't make them altruistic in the LEAST.

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samsung is spineless and google is adware

This is not an answer an intelligent logically thinking person would give. Why are they spineless? Are you surprised at Googles business model? They make no secret of it and you are free to use their products. Do you think Apple does not collect any information at all?

Seriously, we are all up for interesting debate. But you are not even debating anything, you are not saying anything of value either way.

 

[Moto G]

You do know that if both went under ... likely well over a hundred thousand people would be jobless.

And how does that bear any relevance to the fact that they're unethical? ya know... it's not entirely beyond the bounds of decency and common sense for unethical companies to shape up and become transparent and ethical - that way, noone would lose their jobs (except, possibly for the few who created the poor policies and crooked ethics, at the top).

If that's what it takes - and they DO go under, who's to blame? The management who make these terrible decisions - noone else. Of course that is not ideal, but who is to be held accountable for terrible decision and ethics causing a companies liquidation, except those making the crucial management decisions?

You imply that the public (who don't run the company - just to clarify that for you) should feel guilty, were said companies to go under as a result of poor management and moral standing - what possible logic is there to that notion?

 

[spinedoc77]

You do know that if both went under ... likely well over a hundred thousand people would be jobless.

I think the MORE shortsighted person would also ignore the lack of competition if these companies went under. Smartphones, computers, tablets, Televisions, etc. etc. would all suffer because the companies left would not "compete" as much without competitive pressure.

Plus we still don't know why these companies are "unethical", at least more so than every single other major corporation out there.

 

[Moto G]

Why are they unethical? I'm just curious what makes a company like Apple "ethical"? My personal opinion is they are ALL unethical. Major corporations have become so entrenched in putting profit ahead of everything else. Just because Apple puts out a great product doesn't make them altruistic in the LEAST.

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This is not an answer an intelligent logically thinking person would give. Why are they spineless? Are you surprised at Googles business model? They make no secret of it and you are free to use their products. Do you think Apple does not collect any information at all?

Seriously, we are all up for interesting debate. But you are not even debating anything, you are not saying anything of value either way.

READ THE WORDS THAT I TYPED

Not once was Apple mentioned...


Now I know why I avoid these kind of fruitless, moronic "discussions". People pick the bits they (think they) saw, then start off down a side road of irrelevancy, because the keyboard warrior HAS HAS *HAS* to be "right", using things people never even said, as a reinforcement for their poorly reasoned points (whatever they are).

Oh please... I'm gonna get myself banned from this goon show so I don't have to suffer this idiotic logic fail too much more.

 

[spinedoc77]

READ THE WORDS THAT I TYPED

Not once was Apple mentioned...


Now I know why I avoid these kind of fruitless, moronic "discussions". People pick the bits they (think they) saw, then start off down a side road of irrelevancy, because the keyboard warrior HAS HAS *HAS* to be "right", using things people never even said, as a reinforcement for their poorly reasoned points (whatever they are).

Oh please... I'm gonna get myself banned from this goon show so I don't have to suffer this idiotic logic fail too much more.

Putting aside the childish tirade, huge caps bolded letters, etc. let's step aside from the hormones for a second. Why are these companies so unethical? Why are they so much more unethical than other major corporations?

BTW if you want avoid us morons then don't post anymore, and don't let the door hit you on the way out. If you read through everyone's comments I think it's pretty obvious just WHO everyone thinks is a moron.

 

[Moto G]

Putting aside the childish tirade, huge caps bolded letters, etc. let's step aside from the hormones for a second. Why are these companies so unethical? Why are they so much more unethical than other major corporations?

BTW if you want avoid us morons then don't post anymore, and don't let the door hit you on the way out. If you read through everyone's comments I think it's pretty obvious just WHO everyone thinks is a moron.

Apologies for wasting my time on such pointless and irrelevant text. I considered (foolishly) that someone on the internet might be capable of upholding a civil, balanced and unbiased discussion as to why I may have thought that Google and Samsung are unethical. It seems the internet is not capable of that level of intellectual subtlety and humility without forcing their counter-opinion FIRST (just so they make it clear that they totally disagree with you, before pretenting to listen quietly and discuss issues "without bias").

Enjoy your time - just don't make too many assumptions - the more you do, the more you'll continue falling flat on your faces, conversation wise.

 

[spinedoc77]

It seems caps worked, so their purpose was well served - they made the point, judging by your response.

I'm in a losing battle when talking to people who's bias seems to be "it's all relative" - w/ever.

Oh gosh, an attempted character assault by a total stranger... whatever... I'm outa here - enjoy your circular discussions and internet rage, have fun folks - there's more to life than talking to people who can't stand other opinions. No offence taken, I just have better things to be spending my precious time on that conspiracies and highly biased opinion fests.



Adios, cheerio, enjoy your lives

Wow, I just read through the last 3 pages of your posts on these forums, you are a nasty person. EVERY single post you have is belittling or just being nasty. You know what, trolls like you aren't worth my time. Welcome to my ignore button. I know adolescence is a tough period in people's lives, I hope you make it through.