got your C2D MBP? please tell us....

[Zadillo]

Anyone know the syntax for running super_pi?

I had someone ask the question of how long to do the calculation up to 2 million?

Link to app, if that helps...
ftp://pi.super-computing.org/Mac_OSX

Not at my Mac right now, but with the Windows version you choose Calculate from the menu, and it asks you to pick from a variety of numbers, with 2M being one of the options.

I would assume the OS X version of Super Pi would be similar.

 

[stealthman1]

There's just one holdup. Dell's 30" display, the 3007WFP, can be had for just $1279, compared with $1999 for the Apple. That's a $720 difference in price. What gives Apple?

The Dell is essentially the same display. The size is the same, the dot pitch and resolution are the same, the brightness is the same, the contrast is the same, the viewing angle is the same.

Unfortunately, I have some brand loyalty. I'd like it to say Apple, and I'd like the nice aluminum case Apple's display has. I would pay extra for that.

But not $720 extra. That is a ripoff I can't justify. $100 extra I would do.

Come on Apple, bring your pricing in line with the competition. If their 30" display were at a competitive price, I would buy the whole package today, brand new macbook pro and all. But since their price is so far from competitive, I'm not buying anything.

The displays are not the same, I've seen them side by side, I have a 30 ACD next to a 2407fpw as well, they are not the same, not by a long shot. You can go on all day about how they are made by the same company, to the same specs, by the same guy, but they are not the same display. I loved my Dell displays until I got the ACD. I didn't know what white was until I got the ACD, the Dells are closer to white salmon.

 

[PygmySurfer]

Sigh! This is very unfortunate. Is this stupid engineering or what? Why should I pay over $500 for 1 more gig of RAM and end up negating the dual channel 128 bit access benefit?

Should I or shouldn't I????

Please convince me either way.

Thanks.

Personally, I'd go for the 2gb, unless you REALLY need the extra memory. I forget if you said what you were using the machine for, and I'm too lazy to go look Short of heavy Shake or Motion usage, I really can't envision 2gb being insufficient memory, and those are the kind of things I'd think you'd do on a workstation, rather than a notebook.

 

[Zadillo]

Anyone know the syntax for running super_pi?

I had someone ask the question of how long to do the calculation up to 2 million?

Link to app, if that helps...
ftp://pi.super-computing.org/Mac_OSX

Ahh, this is just the command line UNIX version, essentially. Apparently you run it from the terminal like this:

./super_pi 20

That apparently does 20 iterations (which I believe is 2M).

-Zadillo

 

[aaronb]

Battery Life?

I don't know if anyone has answered this question, but what is the battery life like for the C2D MBPs? Is it any better? Worse? Is the heat situation any better or worse?

 

[bcavanau]

Not at my Mac right now, but with the Windows version you choose Calculate from the menu, and it asks you to pick from a variety of numbers, with 2M being one of the options.

I would assume the OS X version of Super Pi would be similar.

Nope, the OS X version is command line only...I passed it a variable of "21" and it calculated to 2097152, which is pretty close...I posted that on my review already...if anyone know how to do the exact calculation...would be much appreciated...

 

[YunusEmre]

This question seems to be very popular too

Basically, it consists of a power cord appropriate for the country the computer is being shipped to.

Thanks for the answer. I'd not have bothered to ask, but I remember seeing someone from US ordering it also (may be on another thread). Then I started to wonder. Anyhow may be I read it wrong...

 

[Zadillo]

Nope, the OS X version is command line only...I passed it a variable of "21" and it calculated to 2097152, which is pretty close...I posted that on my review already...if anyone know how to do the exact calculation...would be much appreciated...

Ahh, I see.

Maybe in the worst case scenario you could run the Windows version of super_pi (which does let you choose 2M specifically to run). When I did that though it did 20 loops.

It should do it pretty quickly though..... the 2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo calculates pi to 2 million places in about 58 seconds, for example. 68 seconds seems a little long, but with 21 iterations instead of 20, it looks like that is the time the extra iteration takes, perhaps?

 

[tarjan]

MM: if thats what you want to read from that message, sure. I think that is rather short sighted but you can spend your money as you see fit.

HDTV, Gaming, and Computing in a large format (37 or 42") or a smaller screen with higher resolution, optimal for specific computing tasks, but not really designed for HDTV or gaming. Those are the choices, and I think both are good directions to go, depending on your needs.

 

[bcavanau]

Ahh, I see.

Maybe in the worst case scenario you could run the Windows version of super_pi (which does let you choose 2M specifically to run). When I did that though it did 20 loops.

It should do it pretty quickly though..... the 2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo calculates pi to 2 million places in about 58 seconds, for example. 68 seconds seems a little long, but with 21 iterations instead of 20, it looks like that is the time the extra iteration takes, perhaps?

Just ran the windows version..I get 1m 3.531 seconds to 2 mil?

 

[Zadillo]

Just ran the windows version..I get 1m 3.531 seconds to 2 mil?

That's interesting. I guess that sounds about right, but hard to understand why it would seemingly be slower than a 2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo at the same calculation.

 

[mightymike107]

I'm still curious about preformance differences in the 120 and 160 GB HD's. has anyone confirmed the part number for the 160?

if anyone knows of a better thread to ask this in let me know.

 

[04440]

Using Windows on my Mac Book

Does anyone know how well Boot Camp work? I want to run Windows for those stupid programs that don't run on Mac yet. I also own a copy of Maya (3d Software, modeling, rendering) So, I'm not going to buy another copy and just install Windows. But, do you know of any limitations or anything like that? Someone said it runs cleaner than it does on a regular PC computer. Is this true? Can someone help me out that understands my confusing (maybe I'm just tired) question

 

[bcavanau]

Well,

I'm calling it a night....

Keep sending me emails, and I will get the info as soon as possible...

Keep checking http://lartren.com/mac/ for updates...

Goodnight,

 

[Zadillo]

Well,

I'm calling it a night....

Keep sending me emails, and I will get the info as soon as possible...

Keep checking http://lartren.com/mac/ for updates...

Goodnight,

Thanks for everything you've done so far Brian!

I e-mailed you a direct link to download 3DMark06 so you don't have to mess around with the mirrors.

-Zadillo

 

[wackybit]

I don't recall an option to selectively choose what was migrated, but I wasn't looking for that either, so I'm not sure.

I don't know if the migration can be done later (you could certainly hook up your old MB via firewire target disk mode and just copy apps over, etc.).

You can run Migration Assistant at a later time. It is located in the Utilities folder

 

[shigzeo]

the quote

I never knew that. Can you explain the problem they had in more detail?

well, it seems that in the early days of typesetter and print blocks there were many systems in employ, but the two that became popular in the English speaking world (as always) were the British and American systems. the American system used the full stop as a set for the final quote and the British system did not. basically, the two styles are neither a grammatical position - just a different way of doing it, though i have to wonder why those quotes would come after the stop, like they are a new sentence unto themselves.

not really mac related though eh? bother, i'm saving my tax return and student discount for one in march or so, this time I do not expect to sell it for another racing bicycle... though really that would last me longer before becoming too slow!

 

[Multimedia]

I Love All My Dells And They Are Much Cheaper

The displays are not the same, I've seen them side by side, I have a 30 ACD next to a 2407fpw as well, they are not the same, not by a long shot. You can go on all day about how they are made by the same company, to the same specs, by the same guy, but they are not the same display. I loved my Dell displays until I got the ACD. I didn't know what white was until I got the ACD, the Dells are closer to white salmon.

I have to disagree 100%. I love the Dells and they are much less expensive.

 

[workerbee]

can someone answer this guy's question, i've been wondering the same thing also?

Go for the 2GB setup for the time being. Once 2GB RAM modules come down in price, you'll be able to exchange to 4GB (and have about 3.2 GB available). Or you'll be lusting after the (then) latest and greatest MacBook with 8GB RAM limit, ATI 1950 mobile GPU, HDMI and BlueRay anyway...

 

[illest813]

I have a question for you guys - lets say I get my MBP (comin soon!) and I get a bluetooth mouse (the new targus one looks sweet for gaming) - and I want to disable the touchpad. Is this possible? If im going to have my hadns on the IJKL keys and spacebar, with the mouse as my aim - then I dont want my right hand (yes im a lefty) throwing off the aim of my **** by going over the touchpad. Is there a way to temp. disable this?

 

[danielsan26]

I bought my 15" 2.33 GHz as soon as the store came up Tuesday morning (I was pretty much refreshing every minute). The comp was scheduled to be shipped Oct.31 and arrive Nov. 2 (order 2 day shipping), but I received notice that it just shipped and will arrive Oct. 31! Awesome! The only option I changed was the larger size 5400rpm drive.

 

[stealthman1]

Well,

I'm calling it a night....

Keep sending me emails, and I will get the info as soon as possible...

Keep checking http://lartren.com/mac/ for updates...

Goodnight,

Serious thanks on the battery picture, I was worried they tweaked the battery as I have an extra one I purchased with my MBP that I stupidly threw away the packageing for, was afraid I was going to own a $129 paper weight. Good to see it's the same except country of origin.

 

[wackybit]

Does anyone know how well Boot Camp work? I want to run Windows for those stupid programs that don't run on Mac yet. I also own a copy of Maya (3d Software, modeling, rendering) So, I'm not going to buy another copy and just install Windows. But, do you know of any limitations or anything like that? Someone said it runs cleaner than it does on a regular PC computer. Is this true? Can someone help me out that understands my confusing (maybe I'm just tired) question

If you're using it on a desktop computer everything is just the same, maybe a little cleaner. If you're on a notebook computer then there are a few differences. Since Boot Camp is still a beta, tapping on the trackpad will not work. And you right click by holding down the right apple key and then clicking (no, ctrl-click does not work). This method of right clicking works in every game I played, I even felt it was good enough for right clicking in Counter Strike (yes, I play with my trackpad not a mouse). But GTA does not identify the apple-click in the game, you gotta assign some other button. So right click works in most games by apple-clicking, but for some games you gotta find out what the substitute is.

 

[stealthman1]

I have to disagree 100%. I love the Dells and they are much less expensive.

That is not relevant to the question as to if they are different and if one is worth more than the other. They ARE different in color, and so far there is nothing I have been able to do to the Dell to true up the color and make no mistake when they are side by side they are different color and the Dell is not correct. That's not to say the Dell isn't a great monitor, and that's not to say it's not a great monitor at a great price, but it is to say that the ACD has reason to support its price point if you care about accurate color reproduction. Valueing a monitor based on it's 9 card capability is not seeing the forest for the trees, you can get card readers for cheap, USB hubs too.

 

[wackybit]

I have a question for you guys - lets say I get my MBP (comin soon!) and I get a bluetooth mouse (the new targus one looks sweet for gaming) - and I want to disable the touchpad. Is this possible? If im going to have my hadns on the IJKL keys and spacebar, with the mouse as my aim - then I dont want my right hand (yes im a lefty) throwing off the aim of my **** by going over the touchpad. Is there a way to temp. disable this?

In Mac OS X you can disable this by going into preferences>keyboard & mouse>trackpad: choose 'ignore trackpad when mouse is present'. Something similar to that, I don't remember the exact phrase.
And the same applies to windows, there's an option to ignore the trackpad.