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33 out of 63 updates applied to windows xp. I think I have 45 more reboots until I am done...

Gosh I like OS X so much more already. No activation and updates are fairly simple.
 
I need to decide between a 15" and a 17" MBP, and I've heard that for some women the 17" area around the mouse can sometimes be uncomfortable (seems to be kind of far from the keyboard). I've been to a Mac store and tried both sizes, but I can't tell from just standing there for 10 minutes. Can anybody help me with this?

I hate to be one of those guys that tells you to go back and read a thread of almost 1500 posts, but this has been discussed quite a bit, and honestly is just going to boil down to personal use and preference. I use my Powerbook in small spaces: music venues, bars, sitting on top a folding stool at a festival to record concerts. So for my use, the 15" is the only viable option between those two. I prefer my 12" to be honest. My gut feeling is if you're a woman concerned that the 17" might be too big and uncomfortable from track pad to keyboard, it's also going to seem too big and uncomfortable on your lap, and lugging around. Again...this really is something only you can decide for yourself.

Is it worth spending the $300 some on the warranty?

I've always said that if your high end electronic product is going to break/go bad, it's going to do so within 90 days. I've been right all but once when my Sony Receiver went out right after the warranty expired. I've had my Powerbook G4 for about 2.5 years now and never had one problem with it. I didn't get Applecare then, and considering I'm upgrading now it would've been a total waste if I had. If anyone here can convice me (and writerM) otherwise, I'd be glad to hear your opinion.
 
Yay!

Just picked mine up at the West County Store in St. Louis. 2.33 - Matte. This thing is sweet. Don't know what else to say, i'm in complete awe.:D
 
Eidorian, that is with sp2 slipstreamed. Updates.. hah now thats funny. My work laptop is admin controlled, and the update program actually wont let you run the /s option as it will complain I don't have admin access. Doesn't matter that I am not doing anything which actually requires admin access. Fortunately I had the sp2 slipstreamed cd from before my home computer bit the dust last week.

True most users wont have that issue, but I do :( (then again, how many people know how to slipstream the cd anyways?)
 
I've always said that if your high end electronic product is going to break/go bad, it's going to do so within 90 days. I've been right all but once when my Sony Receiver went out right after the warranty expired. I've had my Powerbook G4 for about 2.5 years now and never had one problem with it. I didn't get Applecare then, and considering I'm upgrading now it would've been a total waste if I had. If anyone here can convice me (and writerM) otherwise, I'd be glad to hear your opinion.

On the other hand.....i used to have a TiBook which went into repair 7 times. Then on the seventh repair they sent me my powerbook g4, which got sent in 3 times. All of these repairs were free (including LCD damage), so i would go with yes, since that 300 bucks saved me about 6 grand in repairs.....maybe more.

Daniel
 

Note: Although the AirPort Extreme module contains 802.11b, 802.11g, and 802.11a radios, Apple supports only 802.11b and 802.11g.

and 802.11n :D

Did anyone else confirmed that the DLINK windows drivers work, or only bcvnau is the lucky guy?
 
I've always said that if your high end electronic product is going to break/go bad, it's going to do so within 90 days. I've been right all but once when my Sony Receiver went out right after the warranty expired. I've had my Powerbook G4 for about 2.5 years now and never had one problem with it. I didn't get Applecare then, and considering I'm upgrading now it would've been a total waste if I had. If anyone here can convice me (and writerM) otherwise, I'd be glad to hear your opinion.

You know, for desktop computers you may be right, but with laptops you have another variable that raises the percentage of problems with your computer. Even though I have had wonderful success with my powerbook G4 over the past few years, I still had to use apple care. In fact, that's how I got my last powerbook. After 2 years of solid good work on my 17" powerbook 1GHZ, things started going bad. First it was the CD drive, then the hard drive, then the screen just completely died...at the end, I was waiting for a logic board replacement, waited 10 days, they didn't know where the part was so they offered me a replacement. I think that's a pretty sweet deal for the $349 apple care...however, I would suggest waiting a few months...(you have up to a year to decide). For example, after I get my new macbook pro 17" within the next few weeks, I'm not going to get apple care right away. With santa rosa around the corner, I want to see if it's worth selling this one for that one. If it's not worth it then get apple care :-D
 
On the other hand.....i used to have a TiBook which went into repair 7 times. Then on the seventh repair they sent me my powerbook g4, which got sent in 3 times. All of these repairs were free (including LCD damage), so i would go with yes, since that 300 bucks saved me about 6 grand in repairs.....maybe more.

Daniel

What time frame after you bought the TiBook did these repairs happen?

Bottom line is insurance (on anything, computers, stereos....health) is just like gambling. You're betting $300 your computer will break after the original warranty expires and before three years. If that happens, you win the bet and it's worth it...if it never does, you're out $300. I'd be more inclined to buy Applecare on a Rev A product...but that's also why I don't buy Rev A products.:rolleyes:
 
What time frame after you bought the TiBook did these repairs happen?

Bottom line is insurance (on anything, computers, stereos....health) is just like gambling. You're betting $300 your computer will break after the original warranty expires and before three years. If that happens, you win the bet and it's worth it...if it never does, you're out $300. I'd be more inclined to buy Applecare on a Rev A product...but that's also why I don't buy Rev A products.:rolleyes:

While I agree it is basically statistical. It is also a mater of the relative costs. Repairs to Apple equipment is VERY expensive, often exceeding the cost of new units if more than one component needs to be repaired. Apple has one of the best reliability records in the industry. But, laptops take a lot of abuse. They get put into bags that get set down (dropped), passed through backage checks with hecktic TSA agents, dropped again when you set down the bag after a long flight, etc. They also get put into bags in a hurry when they are still hot.

There are so many ways a failure could occur I would never get a laptop (Apple or otherwise) without an extended warrantee. But, I also make my living that way so being without a machine is never an option.

If it is for purely personal use and you are willing to do without it for a while to get it repaired, you can take your chances. I prefer a known expense to nasty surprises.
 
What time frame after you bought the TiBook did these repairs happen?

Bottom line is insurance (on anything, computers, stereos....health) is just like gambling. You're betting $300 your computer will break after the original warranty expires and before three years. If that happens, you win the bet and it's worth it...if it never does, you're out $300. I'd be more inclined to buy Applecare on a Rev A product...but that's also why I don't buy Rev A products.:rolleyes:

TiBook was bought off ebay, so dont use that one as an example (even if 7 times is a little excessive). However, the powerbook which im using right now (waiting for my new C2D MBP) has been in reapris 3 times (for the lcd, once for the motherboard, and once for the bad ram slot that affected alot of units) With me i like applecare alot, my bro has an ibook g4 (bought new from apple) and his has been in reapirs also quite a few times. We may be a family that uses their laptops hard, but its always nice to have a blanket of protection, and 300 dollars in the long run is nothing if you incur damages thatll cost you an entire new system.
 
While I agree it is basically statistical. It is also a mater of the relative costs. Repairs to Apple equipment is VERY expensive, often exceeding the cost of new units if more than one component needs to be repaired. Apple has one of the best reliability records in the industry. But, laptops take a lot of abuse. They get put into bags that get set down (dropped), passed through backage checks with hecktic TSA agents, dropped again when you set down the bag after a long flight, etc. They also get put into bags in a hurry when they are still hot.

There are so many ways a failure could occur I would never get a laptop (Apple or otherwise) without an extended warrantee. But, I also make my living that way so being without a machine is never an option.

If it is for purely personal use and you are willing to do without it for a while to get it repaired, you can take your chances. I prefer a known expense to nasty surprises.

Amen to that....Couldnt have said it better myself (even though i tried :p )
 
I need to decide between a 15" and a 17" MBP, and I've heard that for some women the 17" area around the mouse can sometimes be uncomfortable (seems to be kind of far from the keyboard). I've been to a Mac store and tried both sizes, but I can't tell from just standing there for 10 minutes. Can anybody help me with this?

Is it worth spending the $300 some on the warranty?

I would also appreciate any other comments you may have on preferring one over the other.

Thank you.

I was just at a store and looking at the 15" and 17". I am in that painful period waiting to even know when my 17" is going to arrive, so I was visiting its relatives. The 15 is plenty big for most uses. I write software so the larger screen is important to me, and I use wheeled computer bags anyway. The 17" is big. It is much lighter than my 14" Toshiba tablet however! As to the distance to the keyboard and using a mouse, you can always use a mini-mouse on the hand rest area. I do this on some flights to save space. If you are at all concerned (which you appear to be), I strongly urge you to go to a store and check them out yourself.
 
I prefer a known expense to nasty surprises.

I think this sums it up nicely and I agree that laptops take more wear and tear than some other electronics. So WriterM...if you prefer $300 now to know you don't have to worry much for 3 years, then by all means take the Applecare. It's good peace of mind if you have the cash. But Apple is also a reliable brand that, apart from the occasional DOA out of the box, might never have problems in 3 years in which case you'd be out that same cash.

It's all about how much peace of mind is worth to you. This time around I do have the extra cash and Applecare with an edu discount isn't that bad so I just might get it...but it is still a gamble.
 
Why Buy 17" Instead of 15" C2D MacBook Pro

Everybody seems to be very excited awaiting for their new MBP. Now, would you mind trying to help me with these questions while you wait so I can order mine?

I need to decide between a 15" and a 17" MBP, and I've heard that for some women the 17" area around the mouse can sometimes be uncomfortable (seems to be kind of far from the keyboard). I've been to a Mac store and tried both sizes, but I can't tell from just standing there for 10 minutes. Can anybody help me with this?

Is it worth spending the $300 some on the warranty?

I would also appreciate any other comments you may have on preferring one over the other.

Thank you.
It's all on my Post #1133. You should always by AppleCare for a mobile Mac. They are too fragile not to.
 
:D

But estimated delivery is still Nov. 2. :(

where do you live? I'm still in anchorage as of 12:49 PM. If you're on the east coast, it would make sense that i would ship at a different time because i live on the west.
 
Has anyone tried http://www.lobotomo.com/products/FanControl/index.html
on the new C2D MBP?

I know the cooling is much improved over the original but this program seems so much more logical than the Apple, all (6000rpm) or nothing (1000rpm), approach to running the fans that I'm hoping I can run it on a new C2D MBP also.

Apple should really just incorporate a similar control style by default.
 
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