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I managed to get my audio working with VoodooHDA, so hopefully that will play well with GarageBand.
 
it's installed and seems to be running fine now, but is Mavericks more RAM intensive than Lion was?

No, it's not but as for you (iMac, right?) graphics is not working everything that's in the graphics ram now is stored in the system ram and the graphic itself is rendered by the CPU which make your machine work even slower.
 
No, it's not but as for you (iMac, right?) is not working everything that's in the graphics ram no is störend in the system ram and the graphic itself is rendered by the CPU which make your machine work even slower.



The stock Mavericks one? The one I included?
If you use The one I included it's okay, that it's throwing assertions, but still it might work. Else just use follow the second audio-fix in my guide.

iMac5,1 (20" Late 2006) with 3GB of ram

i used the untouched Mavericks from the AppStore



... do you think i can get away with using VoodooHDA and Garageband? VoodooHDA is working for my audio ... i didn't actually see anything about fixing the audio in your guide yet


but i did follow your guide the one for the Mac Pro
 
iMac5,1 (20" Late 2006) with 3GB of ram

i used the untouched Mavericks from the AppStore

Of course. :) - It's free!

... do you think i can get away with using VoodooHDA and Garageband?

What's your issue with GarageBand?

VoodooHDA is working for my audio ... i didn't actually see anything about fixing the audio in your guide yet

Well, the first attempt to fix audio is installing the included AppleHDA.kext and IOAudioFamily.kext - if this does not work the second fix is installing VoodooHDA.pkg.
Else you may have success with this guide. I tried, but did not succeed, as I did not understood the actual fixing part.
As you may have the same audio-chip you can just get my linux dump file, if you are interested so you won't have to create & boot linux (live-CD) on your mac. (I will post later… file-upload currently does not work.)

but i did follow your guide the one for the Mac Pro

There currently are no other guides but Mac Pro ones.
 
And here you are: Mavericks Install Tools.

!!! I forgot to mention in the included guide, that you (may) need to delete "/System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/kernelcache"


Many thanks for this link. :)

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SUCCESS!

I was able to make a bootable USB-Stick with the Guide inside the Mac-Pro.7z. I was also able to install Mavericks from the created Stick onto another one and could boot it on a MacBook Pro 2,2 (late 2006, with ATI X1600).

At the 1st boot I had forgotten to remove the "/System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/kernelcache". It caused the error that the boot process hangs after the line "Waiting for DSMOS...". After removing the kernelcache Mavericks booted fine and works :)
 
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Many thanks for this link. :)

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SUCESS!

I was able to make a bootable USB-Stick with the Guide inside the Mac-Pro.7z. I was also able to install Mavericks from the created Stick onto another one and could boot it on a MacBook Pro 2,2 (late 2006, with ATI X1600).

At the 1st boot I had forgotten to remove the "/System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/kernelcache". It caused the error that the boot process hangs after the line "Waiting for DSMOS...". After removing the kernelcache Mavericks booted fine and works :)

Trying now to install Mavericks in Parallels Desktop 9 .....

Great job! I'm also on a MBP2,2 and am wait to try this out later - hopefully on the weekend…

How's the MBP performing?
 
I would not get to elated...

Yes, there is now a way to install Mavericks on a old MacBook Pro (without MacPostFactor), see Post #664 on Page 27 in this Thread. :)

As it has been pointed out/strongly reinforced, despite what is actually achieved, the OS is barely usable if at all. Heck given my curiosity as to what is actually new about it, I basically used a year and half old guide (google dead.xx 10.8) files and all almost verbatim that I know from memory at this point (the exceptions being an additional edit to the "InstallableMachines.plist" and the VoodooHDA.kext for sound/audio) and I easily was able to get to a desktop of Mavericks on an iMac with ATI X1600 inboard graphics (don't let the 2.33 GHz fool ya...merely a CPU upgrade on the 17" 2006 that I was able to do for dirt cheap) with hardly any effort whatsoever:
 

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How's the MBP performing?


It depends on the used Drive. I've used a quite slow USB-Stick (Thumb Drive) and I have to be very patient.
I would recommend to use a HDD or SSD.

As in the Guide of the 'Mavericks Install Tools' described, the Graphics is not accelerated and for this (and other Fixes) we have to wait on MacPostFactor.

But I'm glad that Mavericks is running now on my MBP2,2 ... :)
 
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Have you tried to simply add the 64bit X1600 kexts from Lion at all to see if that helped (I guess you'd need the various X1000 kexts + probably the FrameBuffer too as a minimum)?


Unfortunately no, because I have no Lion :(

I'm still using Snow Leopard because of the Rosetta Emulation.

For me, Mavericks is more for testing purposes than for working with it.
 
Mountain Lion OS X 10.8.5 is an entirely different story...

@gpatpandp & @atvusr: you're both running ML without graphics acceleration, so yes, performance will be pretty pretty bad considering how much graphics processing has been transferred to the GPU since ML... No surprise there, eh?

Have you tried to simply add the 64bit X1600 kexts from Lion at all to see if that helped (I guess you'd need the various X1000 kexts + probably the FrameBuffer too as a minimum)?

The best 10.8 hack for the iMac with ATI X1600 graphics that I have found currently is the utilization of the appropriate OS X 10.7.5 ATI kexts coupled with both the patched GL/CL frameworks. This set up provides a OS X 10.8.5 non "MLPF" 64 bit system that I would estimate @ 99.8 % full functionality. Repairing permissions, Little Snitch, graphic acceleration, are among several key components that fully operate in this set-up. And while nvram is not supported on this system, I have found that porting over an account from an OS X 10.7.5 Lion system coupled with the addition of the "PlatformUUID.kext" gets FaceTime/iCloud (though still no iMessages) to work.

I had been running the same system save with OS X 10.8.4 up until several weeks ago when Rastafabi, whom I have communicated/collaborated with on these topics now for some time informed me that the same set-up could be easily applied when upgrading to OS X 10.8.5 which I have since done.
 

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Mavericks can be installed directly in a empty VM and runs fine in Parallels Desktop 9, see the Parallels Knowledgebase, Article-ID: 118806.
 
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Running Mavericks in Parallels Desktop 9 is quite simple: go to the 'Install OS X Mavericks.app' (the Download from the App-Store). In Finder, right click on it and choose 'Show Package Contents'. Go into the folder 'Contents' and further into the folder 'SharedSupport'. Choose the 'InstallESD.dmg' as Installation Image for Parallels Desktop. It asks, if the Image should be converted to a bootable Image. Choose 'Yes' and save the converted Image. Use this converted Image as Installation source. Mavericks needs 2 GB RAM, choose the appropriate settings in Parallels Desktop.

I have yet to get Parallels 9 to run an OS X VM when running Macericks on my Mac Pro 1,1. Keeps telling me that I need to be running OS X 10.4.11 or higher. I don't know if it has something to do with the fact that I used Chameleon to boot but it shouldn't really.
 
Though it is quite possible that I might be over simplifying matters and while referring specifically to those machines with unsupported ATI X1600 inboard graphics, it seems apparent to me that Mavericks could potentially run rather well and done with minimal effort if another series of patched Open GL/CL frameworks were to be constructed/produced.
 
What's your issue with GarageBand?

no problems with GarageBand using VoodooHDA, but I am disappointed to discover that Mac GarageBand doesn't have Smart Instruments with Autoplay like iOS GarageBand does... :confused:
 
Have you tried to simply add the 64bit X1600 kexts from Lion at all to see if that helped (I guess you'd need the various X1000 kexts + probably the FrameBuffer too as a minimum)?


Somebody knows, if the Kexts and other missing parts can be extracted from the OS X Combo-Updates?

Would be very interesting if its possible to make a patched Mavericks for older Macs only with original files from Apple without any hacking (apart from the configuration files).
 
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Mavericks on iMac 24" 2.16 7300GT (late 2006)

What? I already have a Mac Pro 1,1 running Mavericks just fine so I am not sure whatever it is that you are talking about. Further more your original question was about what is better, 10.6 or 10.7 and like is said this thread is about 10.9. The only thing you need to upgrade to run Mavericks is that 7300GT, nothing else.

So Mavericks on iMac 24 inch Core 2 Duo 2.16GHz with 7300GT (late 2006).
Worth the try? Or can't the video card be supported in any way?
 
Somebody knows, if the Kexts and other missing parts can be extracted from the OS X Combo-Updates?

Would be very interesting if its possible to make a patched Mavericks for older Macs only with original files from Apple without any hacking (apart from the configuration files).

Not possible or rather impossible. There are three things that prevent 10.9 from installing on a unsupported mac with inboard graphics.

The first is the lack of EFI64. Mavericks as has no support for 32bit kernel and extensions so it will not boot. This is true of many early Intel macs.

The second thing is that checks are made by the installer; against a supported machines list. If your mac isn’t on the list, it refuses to install.

The third thing is that as the graphics card/chip in these machines is soldered onto the logic board and it is impossible to change them out for a card/chip that is supported in OS X 10.9.

Apple ceased producing drivers or kexts for these graphics cards as of OS X 10.8. Therefore unless the software components that are no longer made to communicate with the older graphics kexts are "patched" again to do so, it will be impossible to use any newer Mac OS X operating system on older macs with any measure of functionality at all.
 
Non mlpostfactor method

Hi gpatpandp,

You mentioned you found a way of running 10.8.5 without mlpostfactor and about 99.8% functionality..... I've got four imac 5,1's that I would like to upgrade to 10.8.5. Could you point me to a tutorial for your method? I would like to try it out. Many Thanks. Charles
 
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