[Guide] Installing 10.9 Mavericks on older Macs. -HackerWayne

[TMRJIJ]

Yea, it's is a fall release

I thought Yosemite's release date is in the fall of this year, but I could be wrong.

I have the Developers Preview

 

[Maccpu2000]

Ok! Let us know the outcome..good luck!

 

[devdev001]

Clarification for MacBook 2,1

Hello all,

I have just recently used MLPostFactor to install Mountain Lion on my MacBook 2,1. I have read through this whole thread and have gotten the impression that the limiting factor for Mavericks on the old MacBooks is the graphics (GMA950), until MacPostFactor is released. I am just making sure that there are no alternatives that I have overlooked.

Thanks,
devdev001

 

[Maccpu2000]

Hey Guys,
Recently I have posted about my display problems, now that has bee resolved with the help of a different radeon 5770 card. My displays are working perfectly
Thank you for all the comments......peace!!!

 

[bulgakov]

how to replace boot.efi

MacPro 1,1
Gt 630 evga

I understand the process.
I can change platform id ok
I can change machine plist.

My problem is using finder I can copy out original boot.efi. (for bu )
But the original is still there.
Using finder get info try to change permissions.
It list my admin ID as option but will not add it to authorized users.
So I can not remove original let alone replace with Tiamo.

This is one step never discussed.
Some claim dragging and dropping.
I have googled around without any luck on this.
Does this need to be done in terminal with move and copy etc.

I have a pre 10.9.3 installer.
I think it is 10.9.0.
I also have a 10.9.3 installer also.

Two other things
I saw someone who used target mode to install and just changed boot.efi.
Claimed to use drag and drop for boot files.

One time I saw Mavericks installer come up with a place to check boot in 32 bit.
Never saw it again.

 

[VAGDesign]

MacPro 1,1
Gt 630 evga

I understand the process.
I can change platform id ok
I can change machine plist.

My problem is using finder I can copy out original boot.efi. (for bu )
But the original is still there.
Using finder get info try to change permissions.
It list my admin ID as option but will not add it to authorized users.
So I can not remove original let alone replace with Tiamo.

This is one step never discussed.
Some claim dragging and dropping.
I have googled around without any luck on this.
Does this need to be done in terminal with move and copy etc.

I have a pre 10.9.3 installer.
I think it is 10.9.0.
I also have a 10.9.3 installer also.

Two other things
I saw someone who used target mode to install and just changed boot.efi.
Claimed to use drag and drop for boot files.

One time I saw Mavericks installer come up with a place to check boot in 32 bit.
Never saw it again.

1. Open the Terminal.
2. Type the following command, followed by a single space (do not press enter yet) sudo chflags nouchg
3. Drag the locked file from the Finder to the Terminal window to complete its full folder path.
4. Press Enter to run the command, supplying your password when prompted.

I hope this helps.

 

[bulgakov]

Thanks VAGDesign

Thanks a lot.
I found this forum to be very helpful with many knowledgable people.
People give answers quick.
I had not used terminal much for years.
Once you told me what to do, a lot came back.(lie KDE desktop in linux)

 

[tripmusic]

MacPro 1,1
Gt 630 evga

I understand the process.
I can change platform id ok
I can change machine plist.

My problem is using finder I can copy out original boot.efi. (for bu )
But the original is still there.
Using finder get info try to change permissions.
It list my admin ID as option but will not add it to authorized users.
So I can not remove original let alone replace with Tiamo.

This is one step never discussed.
Some claim dragging and dropping.
I have googled around without any luck on this.
Does this need to be done in terminal with move and copy etc.

I have a pre 10.9.3 installer.
I think it is 10.9.0.
I also have a 10.9.3 installer also.

Two other things
I saw someone who used target mode to install and just changed boot.efi.
Claimed to use drag and drop for boot files.

One time I saw Mavericks installer come up with a place to check boot in 32 bit.
Never saw it again.

Using TDM method to install on MP 2,1 with a supported 10.9 Mac.
Go to System Prefs/Users & Groups/Login Options/Select Login with Name and Password.
In Terminal type, " sudo passwd root " and choose a password. Now you can login at the root level on the login screen.
Logout user
On the Login screen choose Other. Name type "root" and password.
Then in Target mode with the MP 1,1 you can now unlock via "Get info" window and replace the boot.efi files.
Once you get 10.9 going, try and use the App Store and update that way rather than using the combo update, otherwise you will have to replace the boot.efi files again. You may want to do that just to go from 10.9 to 10.9.3, but then after that use the App store. You only need to do that terminal command once as it just makes "Other" visible to login as the root

 

[nikolaki83]

Mac Post Factor

Did anyone know what is going on with the McPF project till which phase they are are we going to be able to install mavericks on Mac Book Late 2007?

 

[atvusr]

MacPostFactor

Current state: see here or here .....

 

[TMRJIJ]

OS X Yosemite has a signed OSInstall.mpkg

I asked HackerWayne about OS X Yosemite and why it is harder to modified. Apparently OSInstall.mpkg is now signed and if edited in anyway it will break the installation. If anyone wants OS X Yosemite Beta right now, it will have to be install first on a supported Mac then cloned it to the unsupported Mac for modifications. Sorry for those who don't have a supported mac around. . . or at least a friend who has one.

 

[bulgakov]

Thanks a lot.
I found this forum to be very helpful with many knowledgable people.
People give answers quick.
I had not used terminal much for years.
Once you told me what to do, a lot came back.(lie KDE desktop in linux)

As a follow up I used an iMac 2009 install cloned and just changed the boot file.
I had to change boot file when I upgraded from 10.9.0 to 10.9.3.
This worked in three Mac Pros 1,1

So the easy way is to clone an install
Use some show all files software.
Change permissions ala VAGDesign on boot.efi in both locations
and add Tiamo boot in both locations.

 

[tripmusic]

I asked HackerWayne about OS X Yosemite and why it is harder to modified. Apparently OSInstall.mpkg is now signed and if edited in anyway it will break the installation. If anyone wants OS X Yosemite Beta right now, it will have to be install first on a supported Mac then cloned it to the unsupported Mac for modifications. Sorry for those who don't have a supported mac around. . . or at least a friend who has one.

This is why I'm so grateful to have two, even though they're older Macs and one of those supports Mavs+. I couldn't imagine not having that back-up. You can always pick up cheap ones on ebay, or CList for a few hundred

 

[tripmusic]

Anyone else experiencing hard freeze screen crashes with 10.9.3. with a MP 2,1? I haven't noticed any on my supported Mac, but I don't use it as much either. I knew Quicktime X was freezing like this, but I get them even while from an idle state.

 

[Pipoca]

Mavericks

Hi,

I have a macbook 4.1 early 2008 and i am running 10.7.5 right now.
I would like to update to at least mountain lion. i tried a few things and i successfully pre-installed it but when the system restarts to continue the installation i appears the blocked sign and doesn't let me go further.

Can someone help me?

 

[CSeye]

10.9.3 on MacPro1,1

Greetings
I'm incredibly happy to say that OSX 10.9.3 has been successfully installed on my 2006 Mac Pro1,1.

Here's what I did:
- Read through this thread (head spins, stomach in knots, break out in a cold sweat...)
- Downloaded OSX 10.9.3 from the App Store using my Snow Leopard drive in an i5 MacBook Pro. Put the installer aside.
- Backed up my MacPro 1,1 10.7.5 system drive. Tested the backup It started up on the MBP no problem.
- Removed the MacPro system drive. Put it in a newertech Voyager, hooked it up to the MBP. Erased it and created a single partition GUID.
- Installed Mavericks from the MBP to the MacPro system drive in the Voyager.
- Twisted stomach and loss of sleep and appetite.
- With Tiamo’s graph boot.efi on a thumb drive, I located the System/Library/CoreServices folder. Could not copy the boot.efi file. Moved on to the next step
- Located the /usr/standalone folder and successfully copied Tiamo’s boot.efi. While there, I made an alias of the usr folder and placed it my desk top.
- Switched Startup disks to the MBP system drive. Navigated to the MacPro drive still in the Voyager, located the System/CoreServices folder and successfully replaced the boot.efi with Tiamo’s file.
- Put the MacPro drive back into MacPro1,1, started up and... it worked!!!

As others have said before, the easiest way to accomplish this is to install Mavericks from another Mac to the Mac Pro system drive. The Voyager or similar will make this very easy. Copy Tiamo’s boot.efi file into the System/CoreSystem folder and /usr/standalone folder. Put the drive in the Mac Pro, Start Up and smile!!!

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=18411621#post18411621

I'm currently downloading previously purchased apps from the App Store.

(Double-click the ? thumbnail below to see a screen shot.)

 

[tripmusic]

Greetings
I'm incredibly happy to say that OSX 10.9.3 has been successfully installed on my 2006 Mac Pro1,1.

Here's what I did:
- Read through this thread (head spins, stomach in knots, break out in a cold sweat...)
- Downloaded OSX 10.9.3 from the App Store using my Snow Leopard drive in an i5 MacBook Pro. Put the installer aside.
- Backed up my MacPro 1,1 10.7.5 system drive. Tested the backup It started up on the MBP no problem.
- Removed the MacPro system drive. Put it in a newertech Voyager, hooked it up to the MBP. Erased it and created a single partition GUID.
- Installed Mavericks from the MBP to the MacPro system drive in the Voyager.
- Twisted stomach and loss of sleep and appetite.
- With Tiamo’s graph boot.efi on a thumb drive, I located the System/Library/CoreServices folder. Could not copy the boot.efi file. Moved on to the next step
- Located the /usr/standalone folder and successfully copied Tiamo’s boot.efi. While there, I made an alias of the usr folder and placed it my desk top.
- Switched Startup disks to the MBP system drive. Navigated to the MacPro drive still in the Voyager, located the System/CoreServices folder and successfully replaced the boot.efi with Tiamo’s file.
- Put the MacPro drive back into MacPro1,1, started up and... it worked!!!

As others have said before, the easiest way to accomplish this is to install Mavericks from another Mac to the Mac Pro system drive. The Voyager or similar will make this very easy. Copy Tiamo’s boot.efi file into the System/CoreSystem folder and /usr/standalone folder. Put the drive in the Mac Pro, Start Up and smile!!!

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=18411621#post18411621

I'm currently downloading previously purchased apps from the App Store.

(Double-click the ? thumbnail below to see a screen shot.)

Now you should look on ebay for some Xeon X5355's or X5365 cpu's and swap the old ones out. Totally worth it to have 8 cores and for under $100. Best bang for my buck upgrade I did for my Mac Pro 2,1. I never did a cpu upgrade before and I got through it. I have the X5355's. I may grab some 5365's and max this baby out

 

[CSeye]

Now you should look on ebay for some Xeon X5355's or X5365 cpu's and swap the old ones out. Totally worth it to have 8 cores and for under $100. Best bang for my buck upgrade I did for my Mac Pro 2,1. I never did a cpu upgrade before and I got through it. I have the X5355's. I may grab some 5365's and max this baby out

I looked into that before. Now is probably a good time to revisit that option.
Any recommended links on how to install them?

Cheers

 

[TMRJIJ]

OS X Yosemite DP1 on Unsupported Macbook (early 2008)

Still working on the graphics. I know it looks terrible. The kexts I have for Mavericks do not work at all.
Notification Center doesn't work at all.
Mouse Artifacts are annoyingly visible.
Slow boot up up to about 2 minutes.
. . . and many more problem
No transparency

 

[tripmusic]

I looked into that before. Now is probably a good time to revisit that option.
Any recommended links on how to install them?

Cheers

I used this guys tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmz7gPw31L0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Tricky parts for me were:

Heatsink screws. He gives 2 options of bit heads to remove them. One works way better than the other, just can't remember now

The two screws holding the memory cage in gave me trouble. I was able to do this twice without having to remove the cage though. Just be careful NOT to strip the screws as I did! Duh

And the reapplication of Arctic silver on the cpu's

While your inside, it's not a bad idea to clean out the power supply and optical/ssd bays and memory Dimms.

You'll double your Geekbench score

If you do anything with pro audio or graphics it will improve your workflow immensely.

 

[FlyLight]

Edit, moved to another thread

 

[CSeye]

I used this guys tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmz7gPw31L0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Tricky parts for me were:

Heatsink screws. He gives 2 options of bit heads to remove them. One works way better than the other, just can't remember now

The two screws holding the memory cage in gave me trouble. I was able to do this twice without having to remove the cage though. Just be careful NOT to strip the screws as I did! Duh

And the reapplication of Arctic silver on the cpu's

While your inside, it's not a bad idea to clean out the power supply and optical/ssd bays and memory Dimms.

You'll double your Geekbench score

If you do anything with pro audio or graphics it will improve your workflow immensely.

Hey thanks for the link and your informative response.

I have Arctic Silver from my G4 refurbish project last summer. Had to replace the power supply and fan as well. The DP800 runs like a champ for dual boot legacy file conversion from OS9 to Tiger. Works great.

At this point, there's no good reason to shelf my Mac Pro 1,1.

Cheers

 

[tripmusic]

Hey thanks for the link and your informative response.

I have Arctic Silver from my G4 refurbish project last summer. Had to replace the power supply and fan as well. The DP800 runs like a champ for dual boot legacy file conversion from OS9 to Tiger. Works great.

At this point, there's no good reason to shelf my Mac Pro 1,1.

Cheers

Oh man, I used to be in love with my G4 MDD. That was my first big boy. I blew my power supply too. I've got legacy OS9 apps that would be fun to reminisce.

One more thing about the upgrading. Make sure you use the correct GO stepping for the Xeons. X5355=SLAEG and X5365=SLAED. All of the different cpu step pings will work, but the GO stepping will cut the wattage use of the cpus by almost half. 40w+ to 24w.

 

[CSeye]

Oh man, I used to be in love with my G4 MDD. That was my first big boy. I blew my power supply too. I've got legacy OS9 apps that would be fun to reminisce.

One more thing about the upgrading. Make sure you use the correct GO stepping for the Xeons. X5355=SLAEG and X5365=SLAED. All of the different cpu step pings will work, but the GO stepping will cut the wattage use of the cpus by almost half. 40w+ to 24w.

As it relates to running Mavericks on a Mac Pro1,1, which cpu would you recommend?
X5365 have come down in price.
Can't seem to find a clear answer on the distinction between an E5365 vs X5365.

What do you mean by GO stepping?
Will I also have to upgrade the firmware to 2.1? Or is that not necessary?

My use of the Mac Pro1, is for music production with mostly Logic Pro X, and mostly with software instruments.

Thanks

 

[tripmusic]

As it relates to running Mavericks on a Mac Pro1,1, which cpu would you recommend?
X5365 have come down in price.
Can't seem to find a clear answer on the distinction between an E5365 vs X5365.

What do you mean by GO stepping?
Will I also have to upgrade the firmware to 2.1? Or is that not necessary?

My use of the Mac Pro1, is for music production with mostly Logic Pro X, and mostly with software instruments.

Thanks

Get the X5365's. More $$, but you'll be glad you did. Especially since you're doing audio. That extra speed from the CPU will definitely help your DAW. I've got the X5355's and thinking about the X5365's. It's probably easier to buy a Mac Pro 3,1 , but I somewhat enjoy learning from the experience. It's like you're trying to defy the odds by keeping it useful in society.

Yeah there is definitely a bit of confusion about the E vs. X. X5355 ES means engineering sample which are early iterations of the chip that tend to have heat issues. Stick with X.

The stepping is crucial. It is also a way to distinguish the different versions of the chip. GO stepping is most likely the last version and more refined for consumer products like ... the Mac Pro 1,1. Other's like B3 stepping were most likely used in servers as they have a higher, 150W TDP and twice the Idle Wattage. If you pay an electric bill, you'll definitely appreciate the GO stepping.

I heard it's not mandatory to upgrade the Firmware to 2,1. I did. The main thing is that your Xeon's will display correctly in the profiler. Otherwise they will read "Unknown Processor"

I'm realizing a problem that I have with mine. I supposedly purchased GO stepping, but they're behaving like they're not. They're using about 45W at Idle when they should be 24W or so and the Cores are just a bit too hot. I'm on another thread about this now and about to try some of their advice. After you do the upgrade, use an App like Hardware Monitor to check the Idle Wattage of each CPU and make sure they're around 24W/each at Idle. Then you shouldn't have problems.

I apologize to other's on here as this really belongs in another thread. Just trying to spare some heartache