Would any of you be so kind to stop farting in the general direction of the others and help me out. My problem is getting buried.
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[Guide] Success! Install 10.8 on old unsupported Mac
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I answered you already mate. Look up a few posts. Sorry about that.
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1 How funny. Do it without modifying files then.
2. You still refuse to answer my question huh? I asked you. Is it too late to release the files after we see 10.9 DP1? Will it hurt? We have a 32-bit method here for you to use it. I don't see your point here.
3. Did i charge you for MLPF? Did i force you to use this piece of buggy software? No dude. What an ungrateful idiot talking crap.
4. Do your homework mate, understand how MLPF works before saying that. They obviously have all the source for the files and can compile it to work with 10.8. There isn't a hardware limitation unlike Lion.
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Alright, I'm out of this. Keep waiting and waiting and waiting because you're so afraid the big bad Apple has it out for you. While you're waiting, perhaps relearn english, since you have such a major problem with basic reading comprehension that you can't even understand the points I'm trying to make. I appreciate the work you've done to get these machines running Mountain Lion, but your attitude sucks quite frankly. You're not some major developer, you hacked some kexts and boot loaders. And while I'm grateful for your work doing so, I'm not as grateful for the condescending tone of your posts and the fact that you have such a giant problem with people who attempt to do the same thing you did.
Again. Answer my questions first before typing crap.
Regardless whether Apple cares about this hack. Whats the problem waiting till 10.9 releases? Do you get my point?
"apple wouldn't release a product that was as buggy and broken as mountain lion on these machines is. I admire that you've hacked it together to run, but it's cludgy and buggy nonetheless."
I find this really offensive
And once again, the point isn't that it would "do no harm," its the fact that you're playing some victim card. And I don't care that you find the truth offensive. The fact is, if Apple's attempt at making ML run on these machines was the same as yours, it wouldn't (and wasn't) released. What I'm trying to get across that you're incapable of understanding is this: the most reasonable cause for Mountain Lion being cut off the way it is is likely due to the fact they they tried it and it didn't meet their quality control. To attempt to play it off as anything else with no proof is silly, and to then use that argument to delay the utility and to silence anyone who talks out, thats just rude.
From the beginning (look few pages back, way before you started the argument) i already mentioned the idea was to keep this method till 10.9 regardless if it works. I made it clear that if 10.9 won't be able to take advantage of this then will release a proper version for 10.8.
Sure... Some monetary "quality control" to force users to buy new Macs (again, this is an understatement, my opinion but im sure many agrees with me). same base as Lion, just fine tuned. Don't see why it wouldn't work. In fact, it works better then Lion.
Please stop it.
Did anyone even realized that all this started with a misunderstanding?
I have installed Mountain Lion on my 64graphics capable Mac the way hackerwayne posted it before releasing MLPF, which is the same like the upcoming MLPF64 for X1600, Mac Pro...
so there's no problem so far
than I hackintoshed my Mac
no problem?!
Upon installing in 64 bit mode i realized that there are less errors than installing in 32 bit mode.
This made me saying hackerwayne could make all the installers be 64 bit.
!!! This DOES NOT mean the system will be, as the extensions folder etc can be replaced afterwards.
I did not even talked about making the GMAX3100 available in 64 mode just yet. (I do not even care, as I don't have this chipset.)
So, AGAIN where is the problem?!
And now stop it PLEASE.
Did anyone even realized that all this started with a misunderstanding?
I have installed Mountain Lion on my 64graphics capable Mac the way hackerwayne posted it before releasing MLPF, which is the same like the upcoming MLPF64 for X1600, Mac Pro...
so there's no problem so far
than I hackintoshed my Mac
no problem?!
Upon installing in 64 bit mode i realized that there are less errors than installing in 32 bit mode.
This made me saying hackerwayne could make all the installers be 64 bit.
!!! This DOES NOT mean the system will be, as the extensions folder etc can be replaced afterwards.
I did not even talked about making the GMAX3100 available in 64 mode just yet. (I do not even care, as I don't have this chipset.)
So, AGAIN where is the problem?!
And now stop it PLEASE.
Well, fine.
Possibly he is. But although his method is so much smarter than mine, I will keep using my MacBook Pro the way I'm doing it now... 64bit, no DSMOS errors, 20s boot time, QE/CI and based on his method.
(I won't distribute it - he made clear he don't like this although he says the contrary just now.)
Oh, one more thing - he said about "my method" he won't do it as it's not costumer friendly. Might be. Hard work (good reason not to do this). I had to move one pre-made (not hackerwayne's) folder to my boot drive and than edit one plist.
You might solve the issue I solved in a better way. Just do it and celebrate how much better you are.
That's it.
EDIT: @53kyle - You deleted it to late.
I will make it automated, just not now. If everyone insist. I will do it on V0.3.
1. 2 methods were introduced, 32-bit and 64-bit. 64-bit came before 32-bit.
2. 64-bit was replaced by the now in use 32-bit. But of course 64-bit was a better option cuz its more "vanilla"
3. I recommended not to do any developments on 64-bit until 10.9 is out. Who knows we might be able to use it there. Again, i never said it will. Theres no harm in waiting DP1 to come out (its just 1 more month from now durh, its not worth to argue over it. We've been working on this since Feb 2012), and if it doesn't have any use on 10.9, move on! Release it for 10.8. It will eventually be released for 10.8 anyway, even if 10.9 does make use of it.
4. I never said Apple will do preventive measures on 10.9 due to this thread, i always said "Maybe we could make use of, who knows?".
4. I appreciate what Rastafabi has contributed.
Well thats it for now.. ALL ARGUMENTS STOP HERE.
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I'm glad to stop arguing. Actually you can do what ever you want (and live with the praise and criticism) - it's your project. The rest of us are just contributors or "only" beneficiary.
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Thank you. That makes me smile.
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Idea
If you don't mind having ML on your 250 as the boot system, you could get an 8gb flash drive, partition it Mac extended(journaled) and GUID partition table, and name it "Install
Name your 250gb "ML".
Start MLPF and point it at the Flash Drive(Install). When this operation is finished,boot from the Install (hold down option key when restarting to select)and point the Installer at ML (your 250gb) and install. When the install fails(which it will) go up to the drop-down menus and select "MLPF" . Click continue a couple of times and select "ML", continue. A couple of minutes and you can quit the installer and restart into ML(I hope)
Good Luck.
If you don't mind having ML on your 250 as the boot system, you could get an 8gb flash drive, partition it Mac extended(journaled) and GUID partition table, and name it "Install
Name your 250gb "ML".
Start MLPF and point it at the Flash Drive(Install). When this operation is finished,boot from the Install (hold down option key when restarting to select)and point the Installer at ML (your 250gb) and install. When the install fails(which it will) go up to the drop-down menus and select "MLPF" . Click continue a couple of times and select "ML", continue. A couple of minutes and you can quit the installer and restart into ML(I hope)
Good Luck.
I just got an old Macbook 2.1 with 10.6.8 to play with and was looking to update to the latest 10.8. Is it necessary to have 10.7 installed in the mac to be able to use this method?
Is there any specific limitation as to why it is needed or any workaround. Don't want to pay an additional $20 also dont know where to get lion as the app store doesn't show it at the moment.
We have no 10.6 machines to test, but we still built it for 10.6 systems. Unfortunately, many users reported problems when running MLPF on any OS other then 10.7.5. I think its due to a framework missing. By making it 10.7 only makes those with Core Duo Processors won't accidentally install it. V0.3 will lower the requirements to 10.7.0 and above.
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@Rastafabi
I have tried all fixes avaiable for hackintosh regarding imessage fix but none of them worked
On my hp probook 4430s running a vanilla 10.8.3 is working fine
Regarding. Firewire messg that is normal on hackintosh 2 options
Disable in bios like I have done coz I dont use firewire or remove the kext
I think the imessg is something to do with UUID of machine I will try to change mine on fujitsu when I get home and also change macmodel in smbios plist same as probook
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@hackerwayne
The only reason I asked you about 64 bits for. X3100 was because my hackintosh runs unmodified ML 10.8.3 but of course no. 64 kexts avail for. X3100 the test one you gave me ages ago did not work
But quite happy running 10.8.3 and 10.7.5 almost vanilla#
I have tried all fixes avaiable for hackintosh regarding imessage fix but none of them worked
On my hp probook 4430s running a vanilla 10.8.3 is working fine
Regarding. Firewire messg that is normal on hackintosh 2 options
Disable in bios like I have done coz I dont use firewire or remove the kext
I think the imessg is something to do with UUID of machine I will try to change mine on fujitsu when I get home and also change macmodel in smbios plist same as probook
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@hackerwayne
The only reason I asked you about 64 bits for. X3100 was because my hackintosh runs unmodified ML 10.8.3 but of course no. 64 kexts avail for. X3100 the test one you gave me ages ago did not work
But quite happy running 10.8.3 and 10.7.5 almost vanilla#
Whoa!
Dude, calm down. Wayne is NOT looking to become some kind of god, or look almighty for his work. Think about hackintoshes- Apple CERTAINLY doesn't approve of those, but no one's ripping the devs behind them a new one because of it either. What Wayne, MLForAll and the rest of us have done here is not forced upon anyone, nor is it required that you make ridiculous comments about it. If you put months and months into something like this, wouldn't you get a little ticked off if someone passed it as their own or something? No, Wayne didn't rewrite OS X for these Macs. Hacked kexts and bootloaders are really the heart of MLPF, but that's all it is. No one is passing it as their own kexts or anything, and it's a community project for the good of older Mac owners. It's a simple app written to help people out. Why does that apparently undermine your entire rage, may I ask? No one is insulting you or mad at you; if you don't agree with what's going on here, then you can leave.
Respectfully,
Noah Budgor
EDIT- Check this out - http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/26562/leopardassist
Dude, calm down. Wayne is NOT looking to become some kind of god, or look almighty for his work. Think about hackintoshes- Apple CERTAINLY doesn't approve of those, but no one's ripping the devs behind them a new one because of it either. What Wayne, MLForAll and the rest of us have done here is not forced upon anyone, nor is it required that you make ridiculous comments about it. If you put months and months into something like this, wouldn't you get a little ticked off if someone passed it as their own or something? No, Wayne didn't rewrite OS X for these Macs. Hacked kexts and bootloaders are really the heart of MLPF, but that's all it is. No one is passing it as their own kexts or anything, and it's a community project for the good of older Mac owners. It's a simple app written to help people out. Why does that apparently undermine your entire rage, may I ask? No one is insulting you or mad at you; if you don't agree with what's going on here, then you can leave.
Respectfully,
Noah Budgor
EDIT- Check this out - http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/26562/leopardassist
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4870 video card support?
I have a 2006 Mac Pro which I upgraded to a ATI 4870 video card several years ago.
As this card was not supported in the 0.2.2 release, I am hoping it will be supported in the forthcoming 0.3 release.
Can anyone tell me if this is the case, or should I put in the old card again? For obvious reasons, I prefer not to do that, but I'm so used to ML now that I would really like to have that on my MP too.
thanks in advance.
I have a 2006 Mac Pro which I upgraded to a ATI 4870 video card several years ago.
As this card was not supported in the 0.2.2 release, I am hoping it will be supported in the forthcoming 0.3 release.
Can anyone tell me if this is the case, or should I put in the old card again? For obvious reasons, I prefer not to do that, but I'm so used to ML now that I would really like to have that on my MP too.
thanks in advance.
It will be supported on the x64 & 32-bit version. 64-bit is ready, im still getting the 32 one to work now. No way to test because my Mac Pro's PSU died.
but it should work OOB.It will be supported on the x64 & 32-bit version. 64-bit is ready, im still getting the 32 one to work now. No way to test because my Mac Pro's PSU died.
Thanks for the quick update!
Happy to test the 64 bit version on my PM if that will help.
Blast from the past....it's a mirror situation of the present issue.....
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/7594/xpostfacto
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/7594/xpostfacto
Nice!
Hey, pretty cool! Backing up my point that that rude guy was barking up the wrong tree- this is hardly a new thing! Almost every OS X has been hacked for unsupported Macs!
Cheers,
Noah Budgor
Hey, pretty cool! Backing up my point that that rude guy was barking up the wrong tree- this is hardly a new thing! Almost every OS X has been hacked for unsupported Macs!
Cheers,
Noah Budgor
Hey, pretty cool! Backing up my point that that rude guy was barking up the wrong tree- this is hardly a new thing! Almost every OS X has been hacked for unsupported Macs!
Cheers,
Noah Budgor
Yet another person incapable of reading. I have no problem with anyone hacking things to get the OS installed on unsupported hardware. The problem lies when that person then gets pissy if someone hacks the files they hacked in the same manner. It's plain and simple hypricisy.
Ok then...
Perfectly capable of reading, thanks, but your attitude is pretty hostile. If you don't have anything constructive, leave the thread. HOWEVER, it's OK for people to react differently than what you perceive as 'right'. For instance, I didn't call you anything for going against what I was saying, I simply stated my point. Shoving you opinion down people's throats is not a good way to gain respect.
On a final note, I think Wayne and MLForAll can have a bit of slack for the hard work they've done.
Noah Budgor
Perfectly capable of reading, thanks, but your attitude is pretty hostile. If you don't have anything constructive, leave the thread. HOWEVER, it's OK for people to react differently than what you perceive as 'right'. For instance, I didn't call you anything for going against what I was saying, I simply stated my point. Shoving you opinion down people's throats is not a good way to gain respect.
On a final note, I think Wayne and MLForAll can have a bit of slack for the hard work they've done.
Noah Budgor
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